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Wow. Interesting. (It's a conspiracy..............)


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Wow! Such awesome fury nature has been displaying recently! Didn't History Channel say the world was going to end? Not that I believe History Channel anymore.

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Wow! Such awesome fury nature has been displaying recently! Didn't History Channel say the world was going to end? Not that I believe History Channel anymore.

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If the History Channel said it, it's probably Nazis, aliens, or alien Nazis.


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First, a 7.2 earthquake in Bohol, then a super typhoon, then 7 volcanoes erupting at nearly the same time? Oh gawd, please stop! >.<


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Wow! Such awesome fury nature has been displaying recently! Didn't History Channel say the world was going to end? Not that I believe History Channel anymore.

If the History Channel said it, it's probably Nazis, aliens, or alien Nazis.

 

Maybe Nazis from the Moon? LOL.

 

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"Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit... But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually..." 1 Corinthians 4-11

"Do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
"Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you." Matthew 7:1-3

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I always thought it was funny that we feared nukes being planted on civilian populations. If some mad scientist really wanted Mutually Assured Destruction, he'd lanch a nuke at one of these unstable volcanoes.

 

I think it's worth noting that while the estimated 60 Megaton Nuke that the Soviets tested in the cold war had a shockwave that circled the earth 3 times, the Krakatoa eruption shockwave circled seven times and could be heard as far away as 1500 miles (roughly 2400 km) where it sounded like artillery fire.

 

So, while vaporizing atoms is a rather awesome (and scary) feat of modern engineering, I think nature has us beat, and by a long shot. Honestly, I think volcanoes have always been a bigger threat to man's existence than nukes anyways (not that anyone here has suggested otherwise yet), since one could control the launch of a nuclear warhead (and we might have been tense, but no one in charge of the button was insane). Who can stop a volcano eruption? (and don't say Superman....) A friendly reminder that for all of man's work at developing weapons to kill each other, nature still holds the ultimate trump cards.


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When you think about it, all the plates except the Antarctic and Nazca seem to be heading in the general direction of Japan... Maybe they want to go to Gensokyo...

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Earthquakes and Volcanic eruptions are related to solar activity. It has to do with the interaction between the sun's magnetosphere and our own magnetic field. If anyone is interested in this stuff there is a neat channel on YouTube that offers daily news updates on world weather, space weather, sun activity...

 

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I always thought it was funny that we feared nukes being planted on civilian populations. If some mad scientist really wanted Mutually Assured Destruction, he'd lanch a nuke at one of these unstable volcanoes.

 

I think it's worth noting that while the estimated 60 Megaton Nuke that the Soviets tested in the cold war had a shockwave that circled the earth 3 times, the Krakatoa eruption shockwave circled seven times and could be heard as far away as 1500 miles (roughly 2400 km) where it sounded like artillery fire.

 

So, while vaporizing atoms is a rather awesome (and scary) feat of modern engineering, I think nature has us beat, and by a long shot. Honestly, I think volcanoes have always been a bigger threat to man's existence than nukes anyways (not that anyone here has suggested otherwise yet), since one could control the launch of a nuclear warhead (and we might have been tense, but no one in charge of the button was insane). Who can stop a volcano eruption? (and don't say Superman....) A friendly reminder that for all of man's work at developing weapons to kill each other, nature still holds the ultimate trump cards.

 

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What errant nonsense.  A few "coincidences" and everyone has a pet theory.  How about "the gods are angry"?

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What errant nonsense.  A few "coincidences" and everyone has a pet theory.  How about "the gods are angry"?

 

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Wow! Such awesome fury nature has been displaying recently! Didn't History Channel say the world was going to end? Not that I believe History Channel anymore.

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pft, why does history channel try to predict the future anyway, and even then who takes them serious? theye cant even get the history part of their channel right

So, while vaporizing atoms is a rather awesome (and scary) feat of modern engineering, I think nature has us beat, and by a long shot.

 

Isnt there a hurricane going on on jupiter that's large enough that earth would fit in its eye!  That's some pretty mad amounts of energy going around there.

 

And to be fair on the russian bomb, theye could have made the thing bigger, but then it either wouldnt fit on a plain, or the plain couldnt escape the blast in time, either way i am sure if theye wanted to the russians could put krakatoa to shame :D

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And to be fair on the russian bomb, theye could have made the thing bigger, but then it either wouldnt fit on a plain, or the plain couldnt escape the blast in time, either way i am sure if theye wanted to the russians could put krakatoa to shame :D

 

The Russians had one 100 megaton bomb (purportedly). In order for them to match Krakatoa's might, they would need one twice that size. It is unlikely that the ecological effects would have been equivalent despite the effects of fallout. I think Krakatoa had them beat as regards ash volume (though admittedly a well-placed bomb...)

 

What errant nonsense.  A few "coincidences" and everyone has a pet theory.  How about "the gods are angry"?

Perhaps, if I believed in the pantheon...I'd be curious as to what they'd be angry at particularly, seeing as they've had a decently awful century of human history to do something and they're only speaking up now o.O.


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And to be fair on the russian bomb, theye could have made the thing bigger, but then it either wouldnt fit on a plain, or the plain couldnt escape the blast in time, either way i am sure if theye wanted to the russians could put krakatoa to shame :D

 

Well, there were several factors, really. The Tsar Bomba was designed for a yield of 100 megaton. However, parts of the fission material in the warhead was replaced with lead to reduce it to 50, for several reasons. Also, the bomb already was too big to fit in the plane. They had to remove the bomb bay doors to carry it at all. A 50 megaton device could have been made smaller, but no 50 MT device was actually designed. All they had was a 100 MT one scaled down to half yield, for several reasons:

 

1) The plane wouldn't have been able to escape the blast. They had to slow the bomb's descent with parachutes the size of football fields to give the plane more time to get away. It barely did.

 

2) Had the bomb been any bigger than 50-60 MT, there would have been nowhere to test it. There wouldn't have been any place in the Soviet Union where it could be detonated without the fallout threatening populated areas.

 

3) There really was no need for any bomb bigger than 50 MT. Sure, they could have followed the 100 MT design through all the way, but there really wasn't any reason to. Any bigger than 50-60 MT, and the diameter of the fireball would be greater than the thickness of the atmosphere, meaning that a lot of its energy would just vanish skyward. The Tsar Bomba was more of a showpiece, a proof of concept. It wouldn't have been much harder to scale it up to 150, or 200 (though you'd have to sacrifice a plane to detonate it in the air), but 50 was more than sufficient.

 

It couldn't be weaponized anyway, as the bomber would have to be refit to the point of near uselessness to even launch the damn thing. To drop it safely would require the use of these huge parachutes again, giving the target ample time to simply shoot down the bomb - after all, making a nuclear explosion requires some precise machinery, so if shot it wouldn't detonate. And either way, there would be the fallout. It couldn't be used anywhere near anything they wanted to capture, for starters.

 

Anyway, though, they could probably make a gigaton explosion if they wanted. Just cluster several nukes together and make them go off somewhat simultaneously. The question remains, though: Why?

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When you think about it, all the plates except the Antarctic and Nazca seem to be heading in the general direction of Japan... Maybe they want to go to Gensokyo...

 

"Japan Sinks" ("Nihon Chinbotsu" 2006) - Earthquakes, tsunami, and volcanos as the many converging tectonic plates beneath Japan collapse in this doomsday movie.  Yet again, Tokyo will be destroyed!  As the Japan's cities crumble and burn, fit and productive refugees desperately seek to immigrate to neighboring countries, but, Japan must first transfer to the host countries all its foreign currency reserves, its priceless national treasures, and all its technology patents and media copyrights.  The poor, the unskilled, and the elderly stoically accept their fate, vowing to see Japan go down with the grace of dying cherry blossoms quietly falling away from the tree.  Pop stars Kusanagi Tsuyoshi and Shibasaki Kou find romantic love and action heroism as Mount Fuji explodes.

 

The politically incorrrect parody is "Everything Except Japan Sinks" ("Nihon Igai Zenbu Chinbotsu" 2006) - Earthquakes, tsunami, and volcanos destroy the rest of the world save for Divine Nippon, which honorably takes in the world's unfortunate survivors as refugees.  Of course, those foreign refugees must live the Japanese way and according to Japanese rules, making Japanese men the new Masters of the World.  Even the presidents of China, Russia, South Korea, and the United States compete to see who can grovel and kowtow the deepest before Japan's all-powerful prime minister.  To the bitter consternation of native Japanese housewives, every Japanese man now has a personal harem of tall, white, Western women dressed in Lolita maid outfits.  Butchered Engrish is now replaced by expat Americans even more horribly butchering Nihongo.  Those who won't fit in risk being deported off the island.  Will anybody save the world from this absurd state?

 

Five years after both movies came the Touhoku Earthquake and Fukushima Nuclear Disaster.

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...Almost 7,000 miles away in Mexico, the Colima volcano blew its top after a period of relative calm. A steam and ash cloud rose two miles into the sky and the grumbling of the mountain could be heard in towns a few miles away....

When? How? I didn't know this!

 

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The article doesn't mention Kilauea in Hawaii, which has been erupting continuously since 1984, or Stromboli in Italy, which has been constantly active since ancient times.  The article fails to mention a new volcano just discovered under the Antarctic ice sheet, which has shown signs of activity and may erupt in the near future, which can cause a significant part of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet to melt and raise world sea levels.

 

At any given time, there are several volcanoes erupting around the world.  I would not be worried about any of them unless Toba or Yellowstone were to come back to life.

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Vulcanism is the sign of a healthy planet.  If there were no active volcanoes on Earth, I'd be more worried.  Meanwhile, let's all hope that Yellowstone stays quiet in our lifetimes.  It is of the Krakatoa class or bigger.


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Vulcanism is the sign of a healthy planet.  If there were no active volcanoes on Earth, I'd be more worried.  Meanwhile, let's all hope that Yellowstone stays quiet in our lifetimes.  It is of the Krakatoa class or bigger.

 

 

Yellowstone is far far bigger and more powerful than Krakatoa.  If Yellowstone blows, it'll wipe out the entirety of the North America and send the rest of the world into a volanic winter that could last for decades.  Krakatoa is a firecracker compared to Toba or Yellowstone.

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Seven Volcanoes in Six Countries All Erupt Within Hours of Each Other

 

Since no one else has said it yet, I'm going to get the "clearly global warming caused this" comment out of the way. :P


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Nonsense.  Global warming has nothing to do with the current vulcanism.  The volcanic gases might contribute to global warming but much more likely to contribute to a fimbul winter.  In the latter case, we could have massive crop failures,.


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Seven Volcanoes in Six Countries All Erupt Within Hours of Each Other

Since no one else has said it yet, I'm going to get the "clearly global warming caused this" comment out of the way. :P

How? I'm no denier, but they don't seem linked in any way.


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