PlayStation 4 VS Xbox one

[DBD DarkGrnTigr 0]

There are  few things that need to be cleared up here:

 

Microsoft has never officially said that used games will not be able to be played. In fact, the rumors persist about more than just Microsoft. All platforms have been hit with this one, save for maybe PC since that is already doing digital copies of just about everything anyway. In fact, the whole argument started when one rumor started going around that the entire repertoire of next-gen games were to be completely digital copies. Completely not true. And yes, if the used games rumor were actually true, I don't think that it's right either. However, if they were to do it, they would go with an activation pass, like what some EA games and Ubisoft games do to play online. If you buy a game new, a pass is already included with it. If you buy a used game, which is usually at the least only 10 dollars less than original retail price, you just have to buy a new pass. New passes for Ubisoft and those EA games are usually only around 10 dollars anyway. Not only that, but a lot of companies rely on the revenue that used games gives them. Sure, the game companies may not be getting as much money, but they are making millions of dollars anyway. If you go to store such as GameStop (I have no idea what there is outside of the States, but I'm sure the concept could still be applied) you would see that about half of the games on the shelves are used games. That's half of their income. If people didn't buy used games from them, then you probably wouldn't be buying games from them at all.

 

Plus the always online thing was also never officially confirmed, at least in the way that most people look at it. If you are not online, then you won't be able to use most of the features. You would still be able to use the system. Plus, if someone gets a game, and the codes are required, then they couldn't play the game at all. Why would any company risk the chance of losing money to the fact that some of their players can't connect to the internet?

 

And the whole thing with Kinect, although it is used as a control device for the system, you are not required to use it. It can be disconnected, and for all games to require you to use it would just be dumb. How many games really need some sort of voice feature in order to make the game better?

 

But I do agree that the Xbox One looks like the weirdest piece of hardware that I have ever seen.

[Xenocity 343]

There are  few things that need to be cleared up here:

 

Microsoft has never officially said that used games will not be able to be played. In fact, the rumors persist about more than just Microsoft. All platforms have been hit with this one, save for maybe PC since that is already doing digital copies of just about everything anyway. In fact, the whole argument started when one rumor started going around that the entire repertoire of next-gen games were to be completely digital copies. Completely not true. And yes, if the used games rumor were actually true, I don't think that it's right either. However, if they were to do it, they would go with an activation pass, like what some EA games and Ubisoft games do to play online. If you buy a game new, a pass is already included with it. If you buy a used game, which is usually at the least only 10 dollars less than original retail price, you just have to buy a new pass. New passes for Ubisoft and those EA games are usually only around 10 dollars anyway. Not only that, but a lot of companies rely on the revenue that used games gives them. Sure, the game companies may not be getting as much money, but they are making millions of dollars anyway. If you go to store such as GameStop (I have no idea what there is outside of the States, but I'm sure the concept could still be applied) you would see that about half of the games on the shelves are used games. That's half of their income. If people didn't buy used games from them, then you probably wouldn't be buying games from them at all.

 

Plus the always online thing was also never officially confirmed, at least in the way that most people look at it. If you are not online, then you won't be able to use most of the features. You would still be able to use the system. Plus, if someone gets a game, and the codes are required, then they couldn't play the game at all. Why would any company risk the chance of losing money to the fact that some of their players can't connect to the internet?

 

And the whole thing with Kinect, although it is used as a control device for the system, you are not required to use it. It can be disconnected, and for all games to require you to use it would just be dumb. How many games really need some sort of voice feature in order to make the game better?

 

But I do agree that the Xbox One looks like the weirdest piece of hardware that I have ever seen.

Actually Microsoft is at fault for the issue surrounding used games because they are giving conflicting answers.

 

At the very least you will have to buy a download a code to activate the used game.

 

You do have to connect XO to the internet  once a day, to ensure all things are legit.

 

Kinect is required to be plugged in at all times to use the system and cannot be turned off as of now.

 

Lastly many companies already require you to activate a code by connecting online to gain full content.

WB is the most notorious of them (see MK9, Batman, etc...(

[LexusInfernus 908]

Kinect is required to be plugged in at all times to use the system and cannot be turned off as of now.

 

Just because its there plugged in doesn't mean you can't use your controller, nor does it mean that all games are forced to use it in some way. 

 

Again, just minor annoyances that I will completely forget about if the games are good. And they did say they would be investing 1 billion dollars into Xbox one games. As well as promising 15 Xbox one exclusive games in the first year. 

[Xenocity 343]

 

Kinect is required to be plugged in at all times to use the system and cannot be turned off as of now.

 

Just because its there plugged in doesn't mean you can't use your controller, nor does it mean that all games are forced to use it in some way. 

 

Again, just minor annoyances that I will completely forget about if the games are good. And they did say they would be investing 1 billion dollars into Xbox one games. As well as promising 15 Xbox one exclusive games in the first year. 

 

Wii U should have 15 exclusive games by November `18th if all goes right (that is when the first year ends)

By the end of June Wii U should have 10 exclusive retail games.

 

PS4 should also easily have 15 exclusive games within its first year.

The point it is 15 exclusive games  in the first year is a very easy task to complete.

 

Also $1 billion is the amount Microsoft spent on games for 360.

 

Kinect does collect market data on the player with XO in order to help Microsoft know who is playing the system.

This is why the Germans and the EU are starting to investigate XO for breach of privacy.

 

One last note:

 

Gamers are also put off when a console uses more than just a traditional controller and hate consoles that target the mass market.

[LexusInfernus 908]

Kinect does collect market data on the player with XO in order to help Microsoft know who is playing the system.

This is why the Germans and the EU are starting to investigate XO for breach of privacy.

 

One last note:

 

Gamers are also put off when a console uses more than just a traditional controller and hate consoles that target the mass market.

Which is why the Wii sold so much more consoles than the Xbox or PS3. The controller puts no one off if the games are interesting, because gamers care about games way more than they care about controllers. 

 

And where does it say the EU or Germany is investigating the Xbox One? 

[Xenocity 343]

 

Kinect does collect market data on the player with XO in order to help Microsoft know who is playing the system.

This is why the Germans and the EU are starting to investigate XO for breach of privacy.

 

One last note:

 

Gamers are also put off when a console uses more than just a traditional controller and hate consoles that target the mass market.

Which is why the Wii sold so much more consoles than the Xbox or PS3. The controller puts no one off if the games are interesting, because gamers care about games way more than they care about controllers. 

 

And where does it say the EU or Germany is investigating the Xbox One? 

 

But most gamers and 3rd parties ignored the Wii in part due to the controls and the "casuals".

 

Because of the userbase and controls the Wii has  smaller library of games compared to 360 and PS3.

 

 

Microsoft has attempted to play down the privacy fears, claiming that it is “a leader in the world of privacy” and adding that it is not “using Kinect to snoop on anybody at all.” But this has not convinced officials in Germany. In an interview published Sunday by Der Spiegel, the country’s federal data protection commissioner, Peter Schaar, said he was unsettled by how the Xbox One “records all sorts of personal information” that would be “processed on an external server” and possibly passed on to third parties. "The fact that Microsoft is now spying on my living room is just a twisted nightmare," Schaar told the newspaper.

They cannot actually do much until the system releases.

 

Having Kinect collect data while the system is on with no opt out, is against German and EU law.

Microsoft has claimed there is no way to turn this feature off or opt out of it.

 

You'd think Microosft would be tired of being fined and penalized by the EU.

[LexusInfernus 908]

But most gamers and 3rd parties ignored the Wii in part due to the controls and the "casuals".

 

 

 

 

Because of the userbase and controls the Wii has  smaller library of games compared to 360 and PS3.

They cannot actually do much until the system releases.

 

 

 

Having Kinect collect data while the system is on with no opt out, is against German and EU law.

Microsoft has claimed there is no way to turn this feature off or opt out of it.

 

You'd think Microosft would be tired of being fined and penalized by the EU.

 

I think most 3rd parties ignored the Wii because of its substandard hardware for graphics and processing power, not because of the weird controls (as you could just turn it into a regular controller as well). Which is not the case for the Xbox One. The hardware itself is less powerful than the PS4, but not by that much, thus making cross platform games very likely and relatively easy to make. And again, you do not need Kinect to control the game, it just has to be there. 

 

And both Origin and Steam collect user data, which is by itself not against EU law. As long as the information remains anonymous and you agree to it in the terms and conditions its generally fine. Anyways, since the thing is not out yet we'll see how that works and whether or not this just people making a fuss over nothing. 

[Xenocity 343]

 

But most gamers and 3rd parties ignored the Wii in part due to the controls and the "casuals".

 

 

 

 

Because of the userbase and controls the Wii has  smaller library of games compared to 360 and PS3.

They cannot actually do much until the system releases.

 

 

 

Having Kinect collect data while the system is on with no opt out, is against German and EU law.

Microsoft has claimed there is no way to turn this feature off or opt out of it.

 

You'd think Microosft would be tired of being fined and penalized by the EU.

 

I think most 3rd parties ignored the Wii because of its substandard hardware for graphics and processing power, not because of the weird controls (as you could just turn it into a regular controller as well). Which is not the case for the Xbox One. The hardware itself is less powerful than the PS4, but not by that much, thus making cross platform games very likely and relatively easy to make. And again, you do not need Kinect to control the game, it just has to be there. 

 

And both Origin and Steam collect user data, which is by itself not against EU law. As long as the information remains anonymous and you agree to it in the terms and conditions its generally fine. Anyways, since the thing is not out yet we'll see how that works and whether or not this just people making a fuss over nothing. 

 

Actually 3rd parties listed these 4 main reasons why they skipped Wii:

1. The Wii Remote
2. The userbase (they claimed it was "casual")
3. Nintendo releasing too many 1st party games, crushing 3rd party sales
4. Lack of 3rd party sales

They openly talked about it

 

With Wii U 3rd parties are claming the following:

1. Userbase demographics
2. Tablet controller
3. Low install base
4. Nintendo refusing to buy 3rd party support.

these are the reasons why many 3rd parties skipping Wii U (EA being the exception).

 

Sony and Microsoft pay good money for 3rd party support the previous 2 gens.

This time around Sony doesn't have the money to compete with Microsoft on buying 3rd party support.

 

Nintendo doesn't have the money to outbid Microsoft for 3rd party games.

 

The main point is, 3rd party games go to the highest bidders.

[Wiimeiser 445]

You can't just keep on churning out FPS and Sport games all the time, other genres are stagnant. Third parties can only blame themselves if every other title is a shooter and the rest are Sport/Driving. The PS3 at least has a few other genres available like a platformer, a dungeon crawler and even a Pam Tillis Song.

[LexusInfernus 908]

Actually 3rd parties listed these 4 main reasons why they skipped Wii:

 

 

 

 

1. The Wii Remote
2. The userbase (they claimed it was "casual")
3. Nintendo releasing too many 1st party games, crushing 3rd party sales
4. Lack of 3rd party sales

They openly talked about it

 

 

 

 

Nintendo released to many games itself for the Wii? You've got to be kidding, there were almost no good Nintendo games available for the Wii. Of course, when once in a while a good one got released, all the core gamers bought it because there was nothing else. And the Wii was flooded with junk games trying to cash in on the motion control gimmick. 

 

But seriously, I highly doubt they never released something like Call of Duty for the Wii only because of the Wii mote. More because CoD was way to hardware intensive for the Wii. Which is why if 3rd party developers released something like a popular franchise on the Wii, it was a special spin off which had to be build from scratch to even run on the Wii. Which means extra development cost for relatively little gain. 

 

But you are right though, not a lot of core gamers on the Wii, but not because of the controls, more because of the lack of popular games. Only Nintendo stuff and sub standard spinoffs from popular franchises. 

With Wii U 3rd parties are claming the following:

1. Userbase demographics
2. Tablet controller
3. Low install base
4. Nintendo refusing to buy 3rd party support.

these are the reasons why many 3rd parties skipping Wii U (EA being the exception).

 

 

Why is EA the exception? Didn't they just state that they currently have no games in development for the Wii U because of its low adoption rate? I think Ubisoft is the only big developer/publisher that does something with the Wii U. 

 

Sony and Microsoft pay good money for 3rd party support the previous 2 gens.

This time around Sony doesn't have the money to compete with Microsoft on buying 3rd party support.

 

Nintendo doesn't have the money to outbid Microsoft for 3rd party games.

 

The main point is, 3rd party games go to the highest bidders.

 

 

Only the exclusive 3rd party games go to the highest bidder. But big deal, it means more games for the new Xbox which means the new Xbox will be the more interesting option if that is the case. I want games for my console, and I don't care about all the other stuff, if the console has a lot of good games, I'm in. 

[Xenocity 343]

 

• Buy the way you want—disc or digital—on the same day: You’ll be able to buy disc-based games at traditional retailers or online through Xbox Live, on day of release. Discs will continue to be a great way to install your games quickly.

   

• Access your entire games library from any Xbox One—no discs required: After signing in and installing, you can play any of your games from any Xbox One because a digital copy of your game is stored on your console and in the cloud.  So, for example, while you are logged in at your friend’s house, you can play your games.

   

• Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games.  Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.

   

• Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games.  You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

   

• Trade-in and resell your disc-based games: Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers.  Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games. 

   

• Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

 

 

Well there you have it you need permission from publishers to trade in your games or share them with your friends.

 

Publishers can also ban you from sharing your games and from trading them in.

 

Sharing and renting games will not be available at launch.

[Xenocity 343]

@ Lexus

 

Wii has:

 

• Nearly all the mainline Call of Dutys (the Wii version had  the best controls)
• Every Lego Game
• Manhunt 2 (the most violent game to date)
• Bully
• Godfather
• Nearly every iteration of EA sports (granted a 2009 and 2010 were awful)
• Dead Space Extraction (which was given away as a preorder bonus with Dead Space 2 on PS3/360)
• The best version of RE4
• Ports of RE0-RE3
• RE:DC and RE:UC (they cost $15 as a pack on PSN)
• Best version of Okami
• TvC (the best Capcom vs game)
• Numerous other good but niche 3rd party games
• Plenty of good Sega games
• The best version of Goldeneye
• Quite a few Square-Enix RPGs including Dragon Quest (we are awaiting 10 here in the West)

It had better 3rd party support than N64 and Gamecube.

 

Also Nintendo released more games than on GC and N64, which reviewed higher or equal to their N64 counterparts.

 

At least 4 of the top 10 highest rated games are Nintendo made Wii games.

 

Outside of Mario, Zelda and Metroid these first party games were worth playing:

 

• Battalion Wars 2
• Flingsmash
• Sin & Punishment 2
• Xenoblade
• Pikmin 2 remake
• Excite Truck
• The Last Story
• Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
• Wario Land: Shake It
• 2 Kirby games
• Fortune Street
• Punch Out!!
• Donkey Kong Country Returns
• Others...

 

Wii U currently has the following game scheduled for the rest of 2013 from Nintendo includin:

1. Pikmin 3
2. New Super Luigi
3. The Wonderful 101
4. Bayonetta 2 (yes Nintendo co-owns the IP now)
5. WindWaker HD Remake
6. 3D Mario
7. New Mario Kart
8. Yakuza 1&2HD
9. DQX (in the West)

The number should increase when they announce their full 2013 line up on Tuesday's Nintendo Direct.

 

3rd parties since SNES have complained they cannot compete against Nintendo's first party software, because said software steals their sales.

 

They are complaining about it now regarding 3DS.

 

Also EA said they have games in development for Wii U, just not as many as the other consoles.

EA scaled back production because:

1. Mass Effect 3 bombed on Wii U (you were able to buy Mass Effect Trilogy for the same price a week before it launched, also the Wii U version of ME3 lacks DLC)
2. Madden 13 and FIFA 13 bombed on Wii U because they lacked key features compared to the other versions
3. Need For Speed bombed because EA decided to delay the Wii U version from launch until March to get gamers to double dip. It also lacks DLC

 

 

On the other hand Capcom, Sega, and Ubisoft are happy with their Wii U software sales.

[Xenocity 343]

Microsoft just announced that Xbox One will launch at $500 at their press conference.

Sadly the conference was horrible.

[London-b 90]

It's over

[simmfx 34]

PS4 $399 (no DMR) does not require an internet connection at all, does not require camera, used game can be played and sold or given to friends to play. Must have PS+ account to play online, but no acct required for single player

 

X1 $499 (DMR) does require internet every 24 hrs, used games limited access, requires kinect camera to be connected or X1 will not operate. Must have Gold Sub to play online and to play certain single player games.

 

Game over MS!

[Zelgadis 638]

Gotta agree. Sony completely humbled MS at E3. Now for the follow-through. Sony, do what you say and you'll have a lot of happy people lining up to buy your product.  

[astronelson 339]

I won't be buying either console, but I did enjoy Sony's instructional video on how to share your games:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

[lew1984 231]

I see echos and parallels with the X-Box one and the Simcity disaster in relation to placing unnecessary and unpopular restrictions on a product, it really shows that these people learn next to nothing. Its all down to greed and the want to control everything totally.

 

The thing that always aggravates me the most is this always online trend. Do these people not consider the fact that not everyone has stable/reliable internet or even have internet to begin with? What happens if you go away and have no internet? Its an impractical restriction that is madness to be applied resulting in angering and potentially losing many of your customer in this one area alone!

 

The next thing: A fee for buying a used game in order to play it? Totally insane who's brilliant idea was that? anyone in their right mind would never go for that makes you wonder who the hell is running Microsoft! I don't care how much marketing/brainwashing the PR teams and advertising try to pull I will never be lead to believe that's a good idea. I would rather not play games than have someone take away my rights having payed money for a product, by rights it should be mine to play where I want and how I want, and if I should chose to sell it that's my choice... MS has taken away this liberty with this product.

 

Sharing games: Again similar to buying used games, friends will have to pay to borrow a game you have bought making it pointless! What if they wanted to try it out before buying the game for themselves? Another restriction :-(.

 

Finally a scary kinect sensor watching everything you do? No thanks

 

So in summery you have Microsoft's highly restrictive more expensive product vs Sony's more flexible and unrestricted system that is also cheaper... my money clearly is with PS4 or PC upgrade.   

[GMT 389]

well if the current news stand their ground I guess this generation's consoles war's outcome is already predetermined.

PS4 is cheaper, has slightly better hardware, no DRM, allows for used games, no all-seeing camera like in George Orwell's worst nightmares and does not necessarily need an internet connection.

 

the latter 2 points  send shivers down my spine, especially due to the latest big-brother-whistleblowing. permanent camera and internet connection? I think it's a matter of minutes rather than hours for the "right" (better wrong) ppl to make use of it in a not-so-privacy-respecting way.

[AcronShinra 60]

Even if I'm PS fanboy since glorious PSX/PSOne era I have to point out 2(well 3) cons of upcoming PS4:

- No built in DRM, but publishers still have last word on this matter, if they want they can implement it to their game;
- All online features require PSN Plus subscription;
- New controller looks disgusting. <subjective opinion;

[lew1984 231]

Unfortunately built in DRM is something that is unavoidable regardless of platform as it seems the way the industry is going as whole, I doubt it will make any difference if you had PC,PS3/4 or X-Box 360/One  :-(.

[thenesh74 0]

PS4 hands down!!!! And as an added bonus a newer version of Wolfenstein and Carmageddon are gonna be released on PS4.

[Wrightguy0 40]

so the PS4 will not be region locked, which means our aussie friends can have the cheaper american versions of games shipped over and they'll work in your brisbane bought PS4, meanwhile the XBone is only launching XBL support in 21 countries world wide, meaning that if you're living in Doha and have an XBone shipped from europe, it still won't work because there's no XBL support, which is required for games to authenticate.

 

MS seem to enjoy shooting this console in the back before it even gets out of the gate, don't they.

 

I'm a little disappointed that KH III is no longer a Playstation exclusive, but i doubt it'll see strong sales on the XBone since that's not where the primary fanbase is located

[cirugo 1,889]

Not even close.  And the worst part is, in the face of the tremendous backlash they have been seeing, Microsoft (just like EA/Maxis) is sticking its fingers in its ears and saying "oh you just don't understand it...you're going to love it!"

No, I'm not.  Particularly when I have some competition that's actually trying to sell me on what you refuse to acknowledge.

[Wiimeiser 445]

Unfortunately built in DRM is something that is unavoidable regardless of platform as it seems the way the industry is going as whole, I doubt it will make any difference if you had PC,PS3/4 or X-Box 360/One  :-(.

What about Wii U? Why does no one talk of the Wii U?

 

 

Not even close.  And the worst part is, in the face of the tremendous backlash they have been seeing, Microsoft (just like EA/Maxis) is sticking its fingers in its ears and saying "oh you just don't understand it...you're going to love it!"

No, I'm not.  Particularly when I have some competition that's actually trying to sell me on what you refuse to acknowledge.

American companies have this...

...Thing regarding piracy. I actually think child murder is more tolerated among most Americans, and that's instant AO from the ESRB regardless of context.

[Zelgadis 638]

so the PS4 will not be region locked, which means our aussie friends can have the cheaper american versions of games shipped over and they'll work in your brisbane bought PS4, meanwhile the XBone is only launching XBL support in 21 countries world wide, meaning that if you're living in Doha and have an XBone shipped from europe, it still won't work because there's no XBL support, which is required for games to authenticate.

 

MS seem to enjoy shooting this console in the back before it even gets out of the gate, don't they.

 

I'm a little disappointed that KH III is no longer a Playstation exclusive, but i doubt it'll see strong sales on the XBone since that's not where the primary fanbase is located

 

Forget Doha. It's not even going to be available in Japan or Korea. At least, not initially. What a slap in the face to two of the biggest gaming markets on the planet.

 

Another one I don't get... It won't be available in Portugal but it will be available in Brazil. What? It's the same damned language! And I don't see any reason for this...

[Hamish 1,370]

 

Forget Doha. It's not even going to be available in Japan or Korea. At least, not initially. What a slap in the face to two of the biggest gaming markets on the planet.

 

 

 

Im sure it will eventually be available in japan, and most regions around the world. But I don't see it as a slap in the face to the biggest gaming market, I see it as an admission that they have 'lost' the Japanese market. The 360 sold poorly over there, and for them, especially around launch, they may as well focus on markets where they might make a sale. I thought that they would have at least released the XBone in Japan as a statement to Sony that they haven't quite given up in Sonys homeland, but it seems like they have.

[GMT 389]

 

 

Forget Doha. It's not even going to be available in Japan or Korea. At least, not initially. What a slap in the face to two of the biggest gaming markets on the planet.

 

 

 

Im sure it will eventually be available in japan, and most regions around the world. But I don't see it as a slap in the face to the biggest gaming market, I see it as an admission that they have 'lost' the Japanese market. The 360 sold poorly over there, and for them, especially around launch, they may as well focus on markets where they might make a sale. I thought that they would have at least released the XBone in Japan as a statement to Sony that they haven't quite given up in Sonys homeland, but it seems like they have.

 

 

Look at all the bad aspects of the eggbock and think again. they haven't given up on Japan, they've given up on the entire globe.

The only reason to buy an eggbock as it stands now are fanboyism and interest in exclusive titles. Apart from these 2 reasons, any sane mind would pick the PS4 imho. It aint perfect, nothing is, but it's far closer than what MS tries to sell.

 

But I fear that MS will buy publishers to get early releases of games and even more exclusives in an attempt to keep the pace with Sony, just like they did it with the current gen consoles.

[Wrightguy0 40]

 

so the PS4 will not be region locked, which means our aussie friends can have the cheaper american versions of games shipped over and they'll work in your brisbane bought PS4, meanwhile the XBone is only launching XBL support in 21 countries world wide, meaning that if you're living in Doha and have an XBone shipped from europe, it still won't work because there's no XBL support, which is required for games to authenticate.

 

MS seem to enjoy shooting this console in the back before it even gets out of the gate, don't they.

 

I'm a little disappointed that KH III is no longer a Playstation exclusive, but i doubt it'll see strong sales on the XBone since that's not where the primary fanbase is located

 

Forget Doha. It's not even going to be available in Japan or Korea. At least, not initially. What a slap in the face to two of the biggest gaming markets on the planet.

 

Another one I don't get... It won't be available in Portugal but it will be available in Brazil. What? It's the same damned language! And I don't see any reason for this...

 

 

I figured that they had already lost the asian market. this launch probably comes down to sales figures, with the first launch happening in countries where the 360 sold well

[lew1984 231]

A bit of good news for anyone who is an X-Box fan:

 

http://www.denofgeek.com/games/xbox-one/26087/microsoft-abandoning-controversial-xbox-one-restrictions

 

Internet connection requirements have been recinded (for now)

 

The crazy used game fees have been recinded (for now)

 

Does not really sway me though I'm still with the PS4/PC as the damage has been done but I'm a bit biased as I have a PS3 lol.