The 10,000 Post thread V3

[NMUSpidey 3,956]

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3359: Oh? I wasn't aware. I guess this kind of thing is a legal grey area. Oh well, just have to learn Japanese then

 

It's not that hard, dude.  Give it a try!

EDIT: Don't listen to Evil NMUSpidey, it's totally hard.

 

EDIT pt.2: Don't listen to Not A Liar NMUSpidey, it's totally easy.  Babies can do it.

 

EDIT pt.3: Don't listen to Evil NMUSpidey.  It's seriously, really, really hard.  Especially if you're not here.

EDIT pt. 4: Don't listen to Not A Liar NMUSpidey.  He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

EDIT pt.5: SHUT UP, Evil NMUSpidey!

 

EDIT pt. 6: No, YOU shut up, Not A Liar NMUSpidey!

[end edit]

[Duke87 1,070]

(3362)

 

Oh? I wasn't aware. I guess this kind of thing is a legal grey area. Oh well, just have to learn Japanese then

 

To be fair, you may be correct as far as Australian copyright law is concerned. I am not versed in that. All I know is that in the US (where both Saturn and I live), what you describe is unambiguously illegal.

 

You would think the patent has expired by now, how else can companies like hyperkin make clone Nintendo consoles?

 

The patent on the Game Boy Advance does not expire until 2021 (20 years from the filing date).

As for the NES, it appears the last relevant patent expired last year, so there's no more of that to worry about... but since some elements may be protected by copyright (which won't expire until after we're all dead), you have to watch out for that as well. This article from 2005 has some discussion on this matter.

 

And of course, the games themselves are copyrighted, which is really more the issue here.

[Haljackey 17,398]

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My Game Boy Advance is the most up to date handheld gaming system I own (minus my smartphone).

 

I would one day like to get a new one to experience a backlight, the Advance was the last Game Boy not to have it (Game Boy Advance SP did).

[NMUSpidey 3,956]

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I have a DSi.  I use it to play SNES games.  I still can't beat Bowser in Super Mario World, though.  Mostly because I'm terrible at video games.

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

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3359: Oh? I wasn't aware. I guess this kind of thing is a legal grey area. Oh well, just have to learn Japanese then

It's not that hard, dude. Give it a try!

EDIT: Don't listen to Evil NMUSpidey, it's totally hard.

EDIT pt.2: Don't listen to Not A Liar NMUSpidey, it's totally easy. Babies can do it.

EDIT pt.3: Don't listen to Evil NMUSpidey. It's seriously, really, really hard. Especially if you're not here.

EDIT pt. 4: Don't listen to Not A Liar NMUSpidey. He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

EDIT pt.5: SHUT UP, Evil NMUSpidey!

EDIT pt. 6: No, YOU shut up, Not A Liar NMUSpidey!

[end edit]

3365: Ha, I already am devoting my time to learning French. Je suis l'etudiant La français!

Also! My brother is going to Japan next month!

[Duke87 1,070]

(3366)

I will have to get a 3DS at some point for the new Super Smash Bros game coming out this summer.

[Mr Saturn64 742]

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I got my 3DS when Link Between Worlds came out.

Let me tell ya, I'll be camping outside GameStop for that.

[SkylarWeston 45]

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I use 4 emulators. Nintendo and Sega, most prominently.

BUT I DO OWN THE GAMES FOR THEM.

  Edited April 11, 2014 by Johnathan_Tycoon  

[Duke87 1,070]

(3369)

Kay, saying this now before there's too much stray: while we can discuss copyright law, any discussion related to piracy directly, including but not limted to how to do it, whether to do it, or who is doing it - is not allowed.

(imagine the above being in blue text - I can't do that from my phone)

[Larks2242 251]

3370.

 

(3362)

 

Oh? I wasn't aware. I guess this kind of thing is a legal grey area. Oh well, just have to learn Japanese then

 

To be fair, you may be correct as far as Australian copyright law is concerned. I am not versed in that. All I know is that in the US (where both Saturn and I live), what you describe is unambiguously illegal.

 

You would think the patent has expired by now, how else can companies like hyperkin make clone Nintendo consoles?

 

The patent on the Game Boy Advance does not expire until 2021 (20 years from the filing date).

As for the NES, it appears the last relevant patent expired last year, so there's no more of that to worry about... but since some elements may be protected by copyright (which won't expire until after we're all dead), you have to watch out for that as well. This article from 2005 has some discussion on this matter.

 

And of course, the games themselves are copyrighted, which is really more the issue here.

 

 

So I'm confused as to how this is legal then because the front is a Game boy advance player.

 

 

One of the first consoles I've ever owned has gone portable.

 

http://gadizmo.com/would-you-buy-a-cheap-portable-n64.php

[Haljackey 17,398]

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I got a Wii U. My Wii Broke and the U is backwards compatible, so I replaced it with that.

 

I still never use the thing unless I have friends over. I'm excited for the first HD versions of Mario Kart, Super Smash Brothers, and of course Zelda.

[Vahr 343]

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A lot of games have been cloned or remade, and sometimes companies will release them for free. There's also Nintendo's Virtual Console which lets you play most of the retro games on their newer consoles.

 

Duke, who holds the most trixies earned at the same time out of curiosity?

 

You do! Nine of them in 2010.

 

Oh! Well that's pleasantly surprising.

[jmsepe 2,039]

(3369)

Kay, saying this now before there's too much stray: while we can discuss copyright law, any discussion related to piracy directly, including but not limted to how to do it, whether to do it, or who is doing it - is not allowed.

(imagine the above being in blue text - I can't do that from my phone)

 

3373. Allow me to change that into blue form for you. Hahaha

 

You're really doing a great job duke in being moderator and factbook as well. 

[astronelson 339]

3374.

 

They could have a deal with Nintendo allowing them to make consoles in return for Nintendo taking a share of the profits.

[Duke87 1,070]

(3375)

 

So I'm confused as to how this is legal then because the front is a Game boy advance player.

 

Remember that we are talking civil law, not criminal law. This means that for you to get in trouble, the owner of the intellectual property has to sue you. Most likely Nintendo would win if they sued the manufacturer of that device... but they haven't done so becuase they have deemed it not worth the bother. Nintendo is not manufacturing GBAs anymore, after all, so they lose no revenue from someone else making them. I'm sure they would much rather go after pirating of their games.

 

I got a Wii U. My Wii Broke and the U is backwards compatible, so I replaced it with that.

 

The sucky part about this is that you lose all your save game data. Which is why I really wish that newer consoles still used memory cards rather than only letting you save the game on their internal hard drive. This method means you cannot play the same saved game on more than one console, and also means that if the console dies your data dies with it.

 

I'm excited for the first HD versions of Mario Kart, Super Smash Brothers, and of course Zelda.

 

Blech. I'll take the original of any game over some silly "HD" remake any day.

 

You're really doing a great job duke in being moderator and factbook as well. 

 

D'awww...

[Larks2242 251]

3376.

 

(3375)

 

So I'm confused as to how this is legal then because the front is a Game boy advance player.

 

Remember that we are talking civil law, not criminal law. This means that for you to get in trouble, the owner of the intellectual property has to sue you. Most likely Nintendo would win if they sued the manufacturer of that device... but they haven't done so becuase they have deemed it not worth the bother. Nintendo is not manufacturing GBAs anymore, after all, so they lose no revenue from someone else making them. I'm sure they would much rather go after pirating of their games.

 

 

 

What about the infamous Vii made by a company called Chintendo? Can't even make these things up!

 

With super compelling games such as "super move fun", "catch fish" and "fry egg".

 

 

And yes Chintendo marketed it with ads too.....

 

 

 

Or the WiWi?

 

 

The Wii was a magnet for infringement there are so many copycats out there to name, most cheap and tragically made.

 

Or even the game station 8

 

[NMUSpidey 3,956]

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Chintendo makes me laugh.  "Chin" in Japanese means penis.  That means it's a penis-tendo.  Hilarious.

Also, I think that the chick at the beginning of that commercial playing baseball must be wearing the knock-off-yet-still-totally-Chinese-authentic Ne Yor Thankees baseball cap.

[Mr Saturn64 742]

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I'm not a big fan of remakes. Like, Wind Waker HD, for example. I beat the GameCube version all the way through. I probably would play Majora's Mask HD, just because its my favorite game ever. (Yes, higher than EarthBound).

[Duke87 1,070]

(3379)

 

Larks, the stuff you're talking about is all from China. In China there is little to no enforcement of any laws related to intellectual property. While Nintendo could easily get all that stuff shut down in Japan, Europe, Australia, and North America, in China they can't stop it because the legal framework necessary either isn't in place or doesn't function.

[timmie 988]

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I would like a Vii by Chintendo though. Would be an interesting paperweight.

[Larks2242 251]

3381.

 

(3379)

 

Larks, the stuff you're talking about is all from China. In China there is little to no enforcement of any laws related to intellectual property. While Nintendo could easily get all that stuff shut down in Japan, Europe, Australia, and North America, in China they can't stop it because the legal framework necessary either isn't in place or doesn't function.

 

It was sold in Japan too.

 

 

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I would like a Vii by Chintendo though. Would be an interesting paperweight.

 

I don't even think it is heavy enough to be used as a paper weight, it looks like it would carry the same weight as paper.

 

 

 

3377

 

Chintendo makes me laugh.  "Chin" in Japanese means penis.  That means it's a penis-tendo.  Hilarious.

Also, I think that the chick at the beginning of that commercial playing baseball must be wearing the knock-off-yet-still-totally-Chinese-authentic Ne Yor Thankees baseball cap.

 

I almost choked on ice tea after reading that.

[Duke87 1,070]

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With regards to the "Vii", bear in mind that while it mimics the Wii's physical appearance, it cannot play Wii games and doesn't actually function like a Wii does. So it probably isn't actually infringing on any patents - it looks similar but the similarities end there.

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

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Chintendo makes me laugh. "Chin" in Japanese means penis. That means it's a penis-tendo. Hilarious.

Also, I think that the chick at the beginning of that commercial playing baseball must be wearing the knock-off-yet-still-totally-Chinese-authentic Ne Yor Thankees baseball cap.

3383: There's an Asian restaurant in the city called Chin Chin that I want to check out. How awkward.

[Larks2242 251]

3384.

 

Well as long as they don't use or have well you know, the menu would be quite awkward.

[NMUSpidey 3,956]

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3377

Chintendo makes me laugh. "Chin" in Japanese means penis. That means it's a penis-tendo. Hilarious.
Also, I think that the chick at the beginning of that commercial playing baseball must be wearing the knock-off-yet-still-totally-Chinese-authentic Ne Yor Thankees baseball cap.

3383: There's an Asian restaurant in the city called Chin Chin that I want to check out. How awkward.

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH *gasp* AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *gasp* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[astronelson 339]

3386.

 

Must be awkward if you're told you need chin surgery and you find out the surgeon moved your jaw around.

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

3386.

Must be awkward if you're told you need chin surgery and you find out the surgeon moved your jaw around.

3387: This reminds me of an unfortunate case where a Dane told some Norwegian doctors that he was a haemophiliac after having an accident. The Norwegians, not realising the slight difference in language thought he was saying that he was a homosexual, and convinced the man that there was nothing wrong and sent him home.

[Mr Saturn64 742]

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A lovely conversation here on 10000 posts.

And, if I'm not mistaken, "Nintendo" means "electric game". So does "tendo" mean "game"....

[Duke87 1,070]

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I'll let the Japanese speaker here confirm, but Wikipedia says that it roughly means "leave luck to heaven".

 

I doubt it means "electric game" - remember, Nintendo started in the 19th century as a company making playing cards.

[Larks2242 251]

3390.

 

3386.

 

Must be awkward if you're told you need chin surgery and you find out the surgeon moved your jaw around.

 

Why would anyone ever say that?