The 10,000 Post thread V3

[timmie 988]

871

 

Roads and (the effects of) pollution cost tax money too, of course. Do you mean the Big Dig? I think it is finished. Well, apart from the many problems of course.

 

In NY, 55,7% of the households don't own a car, in LA, only 16,53% don't. An astonishing difference. Link

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

872: Well there is far more people living in California than the population of Australia combined.

[Larks2242 251]

873.

 

And more people in Hong Kong then the state of CA, must be insane living there.

[Duke87 1,070]

(874)

 

Boston's big dig was finished in 2004, after over 15 years of construction.

 

And Hong Kong is only home to 7 million people, compared to 38 million in California.

[Muck308 55]

875

 

I would imagine that after years of having little options in LA that even after good PT is implemented it will be hard for some people to break the habit of driving. If you can afford it, driving yourself is an attractive option. Still, in a city that size surely there are plenty of commuters who would take advantage. I think the changing trends of the last decade will lead to a lot of American cities embracing more efficient transit networks, supposing they can fund and maintain them. The transition will be gradual of course though.

 

On the subject of Boston; I was looking over the metro area on google maps earlier today. If they ever demolish Boston Logan and replace it with another airport outside the city, Boston will have some prime real estate to redevelop. I'm not all that familiar with the area though, so I'm not positive they have a suitable site within a reasonable distance to the city center to suit their needs.

[Cpt Johnny 57]

876

 

But Hong Kong's population density, once top in the world, is now lower than that of Singapore. haiz

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

877: Yet it still falls short of Macau.

There's only about 3 countries (Suriname, Iceland, Mongolia) who are more sparse than Australia, and we are the sparsest in the world for countries above 5 million people.

[Duke87 1,070]

(878)

 

The problem with trying to adapt a city like Los Angeles to public transit is that, like most western American cities, it grew up around the automobile. As such, the necessary population density for transit to be most effective is not achieved.

 

LA is not as bad as Phoenix, though, which has been aptly described as "an endless suburb of itself". But Phoenix, at least, does not have nearly the level of traffic problems that LA does.

[GeometryMath Algebra 614]

​879

 

Time for something to laugh:

[Mr Saturn64 742]

880

(878)

 

The problem with trying to adapt a city like Los Angeles to public transit is that, like most western American cities, it grew up around the automobile. As such, the necessary population density for transit to be most effective is not achieved.

 

LA is not as bad as Phoenix, though, which has been aptly described as "an endless suburb of itself". But Phoenix, at least, does not have nearly the level of traffic problems that LA does.

Well, the stereotypes are that Americans love cars and guns, I don't, but traffic is one of those reasons why I don't live in the city. (that and the fact that Philadelphia has million dollar condos and row homes, nothing else)

[AkemiAzula 280]

881.

 

In Littlehampton the traffic on the main roads isn't good for cyclists and it can get quite jammed at times, they are constructing a new bypass at Lyminster. The area has about 50,000 residents

[Duke87 1,070]

(882)

DC is another city with awful traffic.

[RipRap 4,400]

883

Speaking of traffic, I am watching a show here called Don't drive here.

[Larks2242 251]

884.

 

DC should take care of their insane crime problem first.

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

885: inserts political joke in relation to Larks' post.

[Duke87 1,070]

(886)

Not much action in here all of a sudden...

[timmie 988]

887

 

We need someone with a clapper shouting 'ACTION!'

[Vahr 341]

888

 

Clap on *claps twice*, clap off *claps twice*, the Clapper!

 

Does anyone remember those commercials?

[Muck308 55]

889

 

Yup. I do.

[Duke87 1,070]

(890)

 

As do I.

[Cpt Johnny 57]

891

877: Yet it still falls short of Macau.

Macau's population size is lights years away from creating huge traffic jams anywhere. Of those half a million, maybe 90% are people on social visit passes or tourists. The streets are empty most of the time (where are those people? no prize for getting the right answer).

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

892: Yet despite the small population, it is incredibly dense. Those people would have to import goods, as there is no room for agriculture.

[Larks2242 251]

893.

 

Still beats a true ghost town.

[Mr Saturn64 742]

894

But you wouldn't find many ghost towns near densely populated areas,

[Duke87 1,070]

(895)

 

Ghost towns no, but you will find things abandoned on an individual basis in an urban area.

[Lot Creator 304]

(896)

 

There are a lot of abandoned places everywhere. Just run through the west and on some old suburbs.

[ROFLyoshi 1,760]

897: Camden, NJ?

[Duke87 1,070]

(898)

Yep. Or Detroit. Or Baltimore.

[timmie 988]

899

 

I've always found those kinds of cities in decay very strange. How can a whole city fall in decay like that? How is that even possible? The massive scale of it strikes me every time. It is, as far as I know, a phenomenon that does not exist in Europe (not with the same magnitude, anyway).

[Cpt Johnny 57]

900

 

The ultimate ghost place (not town)

 

The Killing Fields