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[choco1 4]

I agree with Metasmurf, but don't weather them too much! I like how they are clean, they look quite nice, and I don't really want another dirty wall, but a nice concrete wall like the ones you've created. They look very realistic and simple, although maybe the blue thing should go. Fence looks nice.

Cheers.

[Mikeaut1 261]

I think they look great Jeronij, but like everyone else is saying, I would agree that the wall should look more weathered and eroded a bit, for that realistic feel. It looks completely stunning though, it is really nicely prepared!

EDIT: WELCOME TO PAGE 50!!

[GMT 389]

hey!

the walls are greatlooking!

i really like the textures, although i think they are a little bit to clean... they look just like newly build walls.

in fact this isn't bad, but i would suggest trying to include a second texture with a little bit of a worn look, to fit the ideas of an already existing wall...
i don't know about modding that much, but maybe it is possible to make them getting an older look over the time... if not, a second set of walls with a used texture would be great...

well, in my opinion. what you finally do is up on you, but i'm pretty sure it will be another mindblowing lot!!!

anyways, i hope to see more updates on simtropia very soon

[Darmok 34]

Hola amigo, those improved walls are really great looking, but I do agree with Aleking and Cjah, the concrete need to be more weathered, and as Chocolatemax said, the little blue grates (I guess!) should be of a darker color, perhaps kind of a rusty texture??

Besides that great work on the slope conforming fences, and I like that ridged texture in the middle.

My friend you're full of surpprise!

Take care!

[tommykid 0]

Maybe some mos at the buttom of the walls to make it look a but more aged. Something like this.

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http://www.brantacan.co.uk/WallPlantAD.jpg align=baseline>

 

 

Just my 2 cents... gl Jeronij!

[jeronij 13]

Hello dear Simtropia visitors  !!!

 

I am amazed for the amount of feedback about the walls !!!. Yesterday I had some time ( not much) to work with the texture. I am not really satisfied yet, but I think I followd most of your suggestions

 

Please, remember these wall are intended to be modern concrete walls, but once I finish them I plan to revise the Residential and rural wall as well .

 

Here are two pics of the walls in an urban environement

 

 

In this one you can see the work done with the textures. I think that is what weathered means .I hope it looks ok so far.

 

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6392/newcmdwalls230106027pr.jpg align=baseline>

 

The same mountain pics posted in my last post with the new textures

 

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5315/newcmdwalls230106030uo.jpg align=baseline>

 

Again a close up on the texture.

 

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3406/newcmdwalls230106040nf.jpg align=baseline>

 

 

This is the texture so far ( Real size)

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//Base%20Muro%20Liso%20ENMARCHA3.jpg align=baseline>

 

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[MrCinatit 30]

you never cease to amaze me, jeronij. the amount of work you put into this journal is, as always, remarkable - especially when combining this with your real-life activities.

what impresses me greatly, as well, is your ability to not only take critisism, but to work with it, and your latest project with the weathered walls is a great testomony of this. the wall truely look spectacular.

great work on your interview, too...always nice to get to know people a little bit more. a real pleasure, it was.

[bokrif 18]

Looks good, I like it!

You might need one piece which is to be under the NAM bridge pieces. Don't you think? It would make it a lot more realistic. othervise the texture is really good.

[bat 6]

The new walls looks great!

bat

[GMT 389]

in fact, this is what i wanted to ask you to do.

really great. but i think you should adjust the color depth of the texture, because now the main texture parts a good weathered, but a the grey is too dark, as you can see at the bottom of the texture.

i suggest to keep the weathering as it is now but adjust the gey to fit with the bottom part of the texture

but awesome lot tho

[jeronij 13]

Hello to all,

 

sorry for bumping my own thread , but I have made some more progress with the textures.

 

I went back to the original texture and added those weathered effects....

 

 

I also added some water pipes to the bottom. I think with this grey they look better than with the previous one.

 

 

Some random use

 

Use on the NAM slopes

 

 

I dont know why, in the slopes the texture makes some sort of zig-zag

 

 

But I think this looks quite close to the final product

 

Your suggestions and comments have been a great help for me.  I will ask you to tell me your opinion again about the new texture

 

About adding a under-NAM piece, mmmm, I dont think it is posible to make it using only textures. I

[metasmurf 705]

Yeah, now they look good An underpiece for the nam things would be a great addition to these.

[Nexis 1]

Slow Down jeronij, your like a runaway Train your working on 3 different projects.   Spend some time do stuff other than Sim City 4.  By the way i liked your update.

 

 

 

[marijntjo 0]

It looks better... nice color and nice weatherd look although i think the horizontal lines make it look a bit odd. Especially when the wall is following a hill into a corner like in the 4th picture. I think in that stituation the plain cement texture looked better!

Nice work as always

[Micah 16]

Two updates in one day! The newer walls look much better! Reviving the old walls? Hmmm... sounds interesting.

[DJGspinNhitz 7]

Man your stuff looks awesome, are you going to may overhanging prop pieces too? Like BuddyBud's ones he made using your original walls? Just asking you seem like you are doing 10 things at once!

GQ

[Cjah 15]

Excellent just Excellent!

They look better in natural surroundings and in urban areas such as those shown.I like how they look on the NAM slopes and if it is at all possible to make under NAM textures then I think it'd be worth a try to get some to work.Also I great job on making it to 50 pages!

 

[sloppet 3]

Jeronij

Well, I have to say I really don't like those new walls. I think That they look like from Russia or something...
I will dfinietly not use those walls in the future... Maybe you should add a more natural -real look to them... And maybe add some trees like in some of your previous concrete walls As for the update - Hurray! A new update
Hope to see some more pics soon, and I count on this mosaic!!

[ldvger 19]

Jeronij-

The new wall textures look great, much more realistic.  Glad my detailed explanation of how real life retaining walls are built helped.  I was especially glad to see the bright blue grates go bye-bye and be replaced with eroded pipe culverts...way cool and very, very realistic. 

 

Someone didn't think the horizontals countinuing around corners looked right, but I have to disagree.  Again, as an architect with a strong background in engineering, I know how these walls are built.  And, the wooden forms that are built to hold the liquid concrete in place while it hardens are all modular.  When the forms are removed after the concrete has cured (hardened), there are visible seams in the walls where the forms joined to each other and they almost universally match each other both horizontally as well as vertically.  Also, as the areas where the forms meet creates a small indentation in the finished wall, this is where weathering occurs first...along the joint lines left behind by the forms.  So, Jeronij's new wall textures are actually extremely realistic in this regard asthe wathering follows the horizontal joints left behind by the forms as well as repeats in pattern across the length of the wall. 

 

As for sloppet's comment about the walls looking like they were built in Russia, well, concrete weathers the same all over the world, regardless of where it's used.  In the US, we have tons of money and so spend taxpayer's dollars to use high-pressure steam to maintain our roadway retianing walls.  This cleaning process doesn't hurt the concrete much but it kills and removes the mold and lichen that erode the wall and eventually weaken it, as well as washing away the salts that leach out of the wall, which also slows organic growth on the wall.  Not all nations enjoy the immense wealth of the USA and because huge concrete retaining walls are outrageously expensive to build, once built they may not be maintained as often as those in the USA are.  Regular maintence on a concrete retaining wall may extend it's life 50% of more, so we here in the USA consider it a good investment to keep our retaining walls fairly clean.  However, once built, the unmaintained life of a concrete retaining wall (depending on climate) is considerable, so rather than maintaining them, some nations choose to spend thier money on other things.  I haven't traveled internationally at all, but I would imagine that weathered concrete is more the norm, worldwide, than unweathered concrete is. 

 

One last word, Jeronij, about RL retaining walls.  The bottom part of the wall often has a lot less slope to it than the rest of the wall.  This is for a number of reasons.  The pressure against the wall (from dirt and water...known as surcharge) is greatest at the bottom of the wall.  To keep the wall from failing at the bottom (which causes catastrophic failure of the entire wall versus minor failure of other parts of the wall fail), a really huge footing is built, so that the majority of the mass and weight of the wall is at the bottom.  The actual wall itself is usually surprisingly slender in width, but usually increases in width toward the bottom.  It's not uncommon for the top part of the footing to be exposed to weather, which is why the bottom of the wall oftentimes changes slope...it's actually part of the footing, not the wall.  The second reason is because running water slows down in velocity (and eroding power) when it runs across a gentle slope.  To preserve the structural integrity of the footing, which holds the wall in place, the upper part of the footing/lower part of the wall often changes to a shallower slope to slow down the water running down the face of the wall to prevent  the running water from eroding both the concrete of the footing and, more importantly, the dirt around the footing. 

 

Ok, end of engineering lessons, I'll shut up now. 

 

Lora/LD

[jacqulina 162]

i think your new walls are awesome just as the old walls were,you do fantastic work thanks

[Nik-nik 3]

The weathered-look looks very nice.
If it is at all possible I would like to see the rural brick wall in a new form as well. It is used quite a lot in the various CJ's around and it may als have an update.

Nik-Nik

[GMT 389]

jeronij,
i think this is definately the exact thing i was talking about.
now these walls look just like i thought they had to look.

great work.

[Superstar 69]

Once again you're doing an awesome job here! The new walls look fantastic, can't wait to see whats next

[bat 6]

They look great and whith the green colour they look better than with the blue colour on the button!!

bat

[ElmarO 0]

They look very nice. The weathered look gives the walls that realistic touch. Keep up the good work.

[kingofsimcity 5,739]

Whoa, now those are some brilliant looking walls. You never cease to amaze me jeroni.

 

BTW, I sort of cleaned out my plugin folder and I can't find the slope mod that you made. I know its somewhere in SCR, but I can't find it .

 

Can you help me? I really missed using that mod.

[ianclowe4c 1]

i love everything that you do here and everything that you have have brought to the the table so far. i was wondering if it were possible to make these, as well as any others that you are planning to make visually two across and only ploppable on 1 tile. i know that somone has done if for your concrete walls, but i would think that this would greatly enhance the realism. thanks for all that you do.

 

ian christopher lowe

[baller23 2]

very nice looking walls jeronij very good and modern!

[____----____ 37]

the texture just doesn't seem quite right to me yet......

[utora 0]

I think the walls are looking great; of course, they can always be improved, but to me they look fine enough to be used excessively!  I've been reading your interview, and I'd like to join MrCinatit when he says that it's very pleasing to know some more about your background, and what you do in RL. I'd like to say that both of your journals have been an eye-opener to me in many ways. When I visit your threads I'm so full with ideas that I don't even know where to start sometimes, so a great thank you for that!

As always: keep up the great work!