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Officials connected to the case reported to Ynet that some of the detainees said in the investigation that they plotted to crash a plane into the Burj Dubai.quote>

It's interesting. When I first told my father about Burj Dubai a few years ago, that it was going to be the tallest building of the world and that it would be in the UAE, his very first reaction was to jokingly say "we should fly a plane into it".

So, he's gonna love this story... 34.gif


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If a plane were to hit the middle of the burj dubai it would colapese and wed have a new september 11.  

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This is no surprise to me - the only question that hadn't been answered for me was "When?".


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Originally posted by: kellydale2003

This is no surprise to me - the only question that hadn't been answered for me was "When?".quote>

Yeah, I guess you can't really build a colossal landmark building anywhere today without some extremist group wanting to bring it down.

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Originally posted by: Deathcat001

If a plane were to hit the middle of the burj dubai it would colapese and wed have a new september 11.  quote>

Not necessarily, actually. The WTC towers were of a rather unique structural design. Most buildings with a more standard structural form would fare far better after getting hit by a plane (intentionally or accidentally). Especially concrete-frame buildings, such as Burj Dubai. They are inherently far more fireproof. They won't collapse an hour after impact from a steel frame losing its strength and falling apart due to the intense heat. To knock down a building like that you'd need to make it collapse on impact.

And considrering that the bulkier, more massive concrete framework would also be more blast-resistant, I'd find it hard to fathom that happening from just a plane hitting it.

So, if these guys had managed to pull this off, they would have made a nice firey kaboom in the sky, and killed anyone near the impact point, but the building would have stood firm.


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    this would be extremely ironic to

    the UAE is located in the middle east., I think these terrorist take things to far.

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    you know what? I'm say this for once, the reason why terrorism has stayed so strong is because the U.S. is taking a more careful approach in fighting terrorism. I know it's a different type of war, by why don't they just kill every taliban or alqaeda(sorry for spelling) like in any other war? They know where they are, I've seen it on cnn last wekk, they say a village is run by the taliban so WHY DON'T THEY JUST KILL THEM?? You can't win a war with fear, they seem to be there to scare off those groups but they don't have a good enough stradegy.

    thank you for ringing up this article

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    Im sick of all these stupid terrorists! Seriously, get a life dudes. Maybe when you were little, it was ok to play blow up the city, but just grow up. These people have families that you are trying to destroy. You give Islam and Palestine a bad name, and me being  a Palestinian Muslim myself, it really annoys me to correct some people who are so narrow minded when they say stuff like "I dont like Muslims because they hate America". That is untrue, we love America, we love the Free Speech, but some people dont like the policies. However, that doens't mean you go kill a couple hundred civilians! Its just barbaric. The Qu'ran teaches to be kind to everyone, which is what y'all should do! I wish the world had less cruelty sometimes... so sad.

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    haha if they evacuate the building before blowing it up I say go for it. Just make sure nobody dies. Killing people isn't cool. I guess you can go to jail for that these days?

    Seriously though, I know a lot of people hate the Burj Dubai but the only people who really would consider blowing it up are those crazy "THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!" rednecks who live in the swamps of Florida, who think that by destroying a tower in dubai, they'd get revenge on terrorists in Pakistan, who destroyed two towers in New York. I guess they weren't lying when they said that the US lacked social studies knowledge.

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    Originally posted by: RayMagnum

    Noone will crash the Burj Dubai. Too many terrorists put money into it.quote>

    This is not very nice - considering the race of the WTC attacks were not caucasian doesn't mean that there the only race that does terrorism attacks.  I don't think racism is tolerated at Simtropolis my friend.

    Wasn't there a glass with a thin piece of plastic put on the glass of the burj dubai? This is bomb proof - and the Burj Dubai has learned from the WTC attacks. I personally don't think the Burj Dubai will survive ANY attack right now - it's at its weakest point when under construction.

    They also quoted the World Trade Centers "indestructable" for it's location. There is always going to be a flaw in a buildings design no matter what.

    Sears Tower         = Soft Limestone Base with little terrorist defense

    Petronas Towers = Built too heavy (made of concrete)

    IFC                          = Unprotected glass and on artificially built land

    Library Tower        = Old - needs structure renovations and too open to public

    Burj Dubai             = too thin to stand force of a plane at 500kmh

    I would say the Shanghai World Financial Centre (SWFC) is the best built skyscraper in the World. It could stand against typhoons, Earthquakes, terrorist attacks, and fire (fire was a big factor in the WTC collapse). And is its structure is built very tough instead of thousands of thin pillars at a time.


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    ^^ Im glad you can see that Arabs are not the only ones who commit these attacks! We need more people like you.

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    I'm not really surprised that a plot was hatched to try and take the Burj Dubai down.  It was only a matter of time.

    Originally posted by: Kryptowhite

    haha if they evacuate the building before blowing it up I say go for it. Just make sure nobody dies. Killing people isn't cool. I guess you can go to jail for that these days?

    Seriously though, I know a lot of people hate the Burj Dubai but the only people who really would consider blowing it up are those crazy "THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!" rednecks who live in the swamps of Florida, who think that by destroying a tower in dubai, they'd get revenge on terrorists in Pakistan, who destroyed two towers in New York. I guess they weren't lying when they said that the US lacked social studies knowledge.quote>

    You seriuosly need to keep comments like that to yourself.  You lack of respect is astounding.

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    Originally posted by: blade2k5

    I'm not really surprised that a plot was hatched to try and take the Burj Dubai down.  It was only a matter of time.

    Originally posted by: Kryptowhite

    haha if they evacuate the building before blowing it up I say go for it. Just make sure nobody dies. Killing people isn't cool. I guess you can go to jail for that these days?

    Seriously though, I know a lot of people hate the Burj Dubai but the only people who really would consider blowing it up are those crazy "THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!" rednecks who live in the swamps of Florida, who think that by destroying a tower in dubai, they'd get revenge on terrorists in Pakistan, who destroyed two towers in New York. I guess they weren't lying when they said that the US lacked social studies knowledge.quote>

    You seriuosly need to keep comments like that to yourself.  You lack of respect is astounding quote>

    I think that first the Burj Dubai should earn my respect. I'm pretty sure the last time the middle east had the worlds tallest structure [The Giza Pyramids] the workers had better conditions than they do for the Burj Dubai.

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    But I mean lately, no offense to anyone here, every terrorist I have seen is of arab decsent. Obviously, this is 0.000000000000000001 of the arab population, but I have never seen anyone of another race plot to destroy a building with a plane. If you prove me wrong with an example and link, I would be very intrested to read it.

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    Originally posted by: kellydale2003

    Petronas Towers = Built too heavy (made of concrete) quote>

    How is this a flaw?

    Burj Dubai = too thin to stand force of a plane at 500kmh.quote>

    So sure about that? I'm not. Thinnes versus thickness of the building isn't everything. Remember, these things are designed to withstand strong winds and earthquakes. And it's thicker at the bottom, where the shear and moment resulting from any lateral force applied to the building would be greater.

    Whether it would be able to withstand the impact is perfectly calculatable, although not without having the blueprints and material specs of the building (and the plane), which are understandably not publically available.

    I would say the Shanghai World Financial Centre (SWFC) is the best built skyscraper in the World. It could stand against typhoons, Earthquakes, terrorist attacks, and fire (fire was a big factor in the WTC collapse).quote>

    Care to back this claim up with some facts?


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    Originally posted by: Kryptowhite

    Originally posted by: blade2k5

    I'm not really surprised that a plot was hatched to try and take the Burj Dubai down.  It was only a matter of time.

    Originally posted by: Kryptowhite

    haha if they evacuate the building before blowing it up I say go for it. Just make sure nobody dies. Killing people isn't cool. I guess you can go to jail for that these days?

    Seriously though, I know a lot of people hate the Burj Dubai but the only people who really would consider blowing it up are those crazy "THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!" rednecks who live in the swamps of Florida, who think that by destroying a tower in dubai, they'd get revenge on terrorists in Pakistan, who destroyed two towers in New York. I guess they weren't lying when they said that the US lacked social studies knowledge.quote>

    You seriuosly need to keep comments like that to yourself.  You lack of respect is astounding quote>

    I think that first the Burj Dubai should earn my respect. I'm pretty sure the last time the middle east had the worlds tallest structure [The Giza Pyramids] the workers had better conditions than they do for the Burj Dubai.

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    I wasn't talking about respect for the building.  I highlighted it for ya this time2.gif

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    ^ well, I added in the florida because it helped emphasize how things in that "lets get revenge" attitude don't quite line up. People in Florida trying to get revenge for New Yorkers on people in Pakistan by killing people in Dubai? Does that make any sense? The Florida could be substituted by any state, i chose florida because i was thinking about Tim Tebow at the time [no subliminal message intended]. Look at it like a venn diagram. Florida and crazy radical rednecks are in the two circles, and i'm talking about the area in between the two circles. I'm not saying all floridans are rednecks, or all rednecks are floridians, but rather, some rednecks like in florida. [isn't the waterboy from florida? Or was it louisiana?]. I actually thought that out before i posted that so incase someone was offended by that i could explain it. See, i do think about what i say 3.gif

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    I dont think the way the workers are treated are acceptable, but it seems most of the people in the thread wouldn't be unhappy if somone did fly a plane into the Burj Dubai. People would die. No matter what .race or religion they are still humans, and they have people who love them.

    Even if by some miracle no one was killed in such an attack, it would still ruin peoples lives, financially, which can have bad effects as well.

    No matter which country the attack is plotted to be against, even if it's a country considered an enemy of the country your in, not everyone in the country shares the same religion, views or beliefs. The Americans should know this so well with the whole Republic Democratic thing.

    That's the reason you can't just go in and kill everyone in a village run by the taliban, because not everyone will be the same as the Taliban. Some of the people in that village may be forced to do what they do. If someone held a gun to someone you love and told you to do something that could end up killing someone on the other side of the world you don't know even exists? Though in a smaller amount of people like in a village they may all be the same, but not every one in the country will be the same.

    Remember when you watch/hear the news that you are only seeing/hearing what the people who report the news "want you to see"

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    Originally posted by: Jamonbread

    But I mean lately, no offense to anyone here, every terrorist I have seen is of arab decsent. Obviously, this is 0.000000000000000001 of the arab population, but I have never seen anyone of another race plot to destroy a building with a plane. If you prove me wrong with an example and link, I would be very intrested to read it.quote>

    ETA hasn't got any arabic descent person on its formation and they've killed more than 800 people since 1968... They haven't tried yet with planes but they do kill people too. Don't generalise, it's always bad.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA

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    Yeah - 2012 (No conspiracy intended) there's probably going to be some terrorist threat at the New World Trade Center.

    If there's a crowd (which consists of 3 or more people lol) - There's always going to be secuirty issues. I have no doubt that even islamic or middle east races are not allowed to work at the World Trade Center complex.

    This is how World Wars start - everyone feels threatened and defensively hostile. Eventually attacks will break out and everyone will have their own allies and all fight each other. When you read about the cold war and the world wars its really dumb how each country helped each other to fight another country, but really everyone was transporting weapons to each other. Even opposing countries somehow ended up trading weapons through other countries!

    The Human race is dumb - We all can't learn from out mistakes because it's a new generation faced with the same problems that conclude the same results.


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    Originally posted by: Kryptowhite

    ^ well, I added in the florida because it helped emphasize how things in that "lets get revenge" attitude don't quite line up. People in Florida trying to get revenge for New Yorkers on people in Pakistan by killing people in Dubai? Does that make any sense? The Florida could be substituted by any state, i chose florida because i was thinking about Tim Tebow at the time [no subliminal message intended]. Look at it like a venn diagram. Florida and crazy radical rednecks are in the two circles, and i'm talking about the area in between the two circles. I'm not saying all floridans are rednecks, or all rednecks are floridians, but rather, some rednecks like in florida. [isn't the waterboy from florida? Or was it louisiana?]. I actually thought that out before i posted that so incase someone was offended by that i could explain it. See, i do think about what i say quote>

    Nice try, but you don't get a pass on that extremely poor excuse.  If you had thoroughly thought your comments through, you wouldn't have made it as anyone could see it for the derogatory and condescending comment that it is.  Labeling a group as rednecks because they have a diffrent view on things that you do is truly condescending.  I bet if someone made a condescending comment about Bostonians, you'd have a hissy fit over it.

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    What I'm wondering is what purpose would blowing up the Burj Dubai fulfill? With the WTC, I could see it being a message to the US for meddling in the issues of other countries (as Osama Bin Laden is apt to remind us every single year). But what was UAE doing other than developing an expensive (and already collapsing) tourist and business trap? What message would blowing up the world's tallest building send, other than the same one that a pre-school bully sends to a kid making a tall tower with blocks? It makes no sense....

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    Originally posted by: blade2k5

    Originally posted by: Kryptowhite

    ^ well, I added in the florida because it helped emphasize how things in that "lets get revenge" attitude don't quite line up. People in Florida trying to get revenge for New Yorkers on people in Pakistan by killing people in Dubai? Does that make any sense? The Florida could be substituted by any state, i chose florida because i was thinking about Tim Tebow at the time [no subliminal message intended]. Look at it like a venn diagram. Florida and crazy radical rednecks are in the two circles, and i'm talking about the area in between the two circles. I'm not saying all floridans are rednecks, or all rednecks are floridians, but rather, some rednecks like in florida. [isn't the waterboy from florida? Or was it louisiana?]. I actually thought that out before i posted that so incase someone was offended by that i could explain it. See, i do think about what i say %7Boption%7Dquote>

    Nice try, but you don't get a pass on that extremely poor excuse.  If you had thoroughly thought your comments through, you wouldn't have made it as anyone could see it for the derogatory and condescending comment that it is.  Labeling a group as rednecks because they have a diffrent view on things that you do is truly condescending.  I bet if someone made a condescending comment about Bostonians, you'd have a hissy fit over it.quote>

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    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redneck

    I could say uneducated white bigot reactionary farm laborers from the rural working class of the south if you prefer. But it looks like redneck is actually the correct label for a radical white person who thinks we should kill muslims for the heck of it. Unless you care to suggest a different term that better suits this group?

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    Originally posted by: kellydale2003

    Yeah - 2012 (No conspiracy intended) there's probably going to be some terrorist threat at the New World Trade Center.

    If there's a crowd (which consists of 3 or more people lol) - There's always going to be secuirty issues. I have no doubt that even islamic or middle east races are not allowed to work at the World Trade Center complex.

    This is how World Wars start - everyone feels threatened and defensively hostile. Eventually attacks will break out and everyone will have their own allies and all fight each other. When you read about the cold war and the world wars its really dumb how each country helped each other to fight another country, but really everyone was transporting weapons to each other. Even opposing countries somehow ended up trading weapons through other countries!

    The Human race is dumb - We all can't learn from out mistakes because it's a new generation faced with the same problems that conclude the same results.

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    How do you know that no people of Islamic descent can work at the world trade center in 2012? Technichly, that is illegal to deny a job because of race, religion, etc., or at least I think so(correct me if I'm wrong). I'm sick of all this stereotyping of Arabs, Muslims, etc. because its just not right, and its all just because of some stupid terrorist who tag themselves as Muslims, fighting for Jihad. As a Muslim, I do not even consider them true Muslims, because of their actions. Im not saying that you specifically stereotyped at all, just making a separate point.

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