nybt-forum-threads NYBT BAT Thread

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Can't wait to download it.

[simcity4fan12 13]

This is a current list of my Lower Manhattan BATs I'm working on or want to make-

(In progress= working on it/ Incomplete= Haven't started/ Completed and Released=Self-explanatory)

22 Cortlandt Street- In progress

AT&T Long Lines Building(kinda a V2)- In progress

Downtown Club- In progress

130 Liberty Street V2- In progress

Home Insurance Plaza- Completed and Released

Federal Hall- Completed and Released

St. Nicholas Orthodox Greek Church V2- Completed and Released.

375 Pearl Street V2- Completed and Released

85 West Street V3- Incompleted

WTC7- In progress

HSBC Bank Building- In progress

Old Goldman Sachs HQ- Incompleted

101 Barclay- Incompleted

Fiterman Hall- Incompleted

One Chase Manhattan Plaza- Incompleted

19 Rector Street- Incompleted

Citibank Building- Incompleted

55 Water Street- Incompleted

Those are what I'm doing and want to do. Oh and just a reminder- If anyone needs a basic shape for a building in NY they want to do but want a basic shape then I can make you one. And I'm going to make one of the Time Warner Center if anyone wants it. My computer can't really handle something like the Time Warner Building, mainly becuase of it's size which makes alot of it's details repetetive.

[sten1700 102]

What about 60 wall street?

[PBGV103 729]

The Time Warner Center sounds great, but it might have to be finished by someone with 3ds max because gmax shuts down if it has to many objects or faces. That's the problem I had with the lipstick building. Apparently the program can't handle using more than 1 GB of ram at a time.

[simcity4fan12 13]

@sten1700- Ah, 60 Wall Street slips my mind once again. Gotta remember that one...

@PBG-Hmm, I didn't think most files went of 1 GB in gmax... Thinking about stuff like that, my computer might not be able to handle larger models. I always wanted to do my own WTC, but now, my computer probably can't handle it. I'm not sure if it can handle One Chase Manhattan Plaza either....only one way to find out I guess.

Behold! 130 Liberty Street V2 is now complete! ....well, unless Kryptowhite points something out...




Well, I get a feeling I'll have to go back and re-do something. Even though I'm a perfectionist at times, sometimes something drags on too long where I wana leave it as is. All that's left for this is for Gwail to make the custom query and modding for the ploppable. Then, I have to make a gigantic american flag like the one that was put on it after 9/11 and then give to Gwail to mod it to appear every September.

[Hanson784 165]

Well, One Liberty Plaza is having LOD issues. When I got it into the Lot Editor it was clear I need to re-render, I'm pushing back the release date until I get the problem solved. Don't worry it will be released.

I've had this problem when I render the Solow Building and thankfully it is fixable (after a bit of hair pulling though)

Gwail, I saw your new MTA buses and I am so glad you're doing the MCI coach versions. I have been wanting them as automata for years. Looking forward to them.

Good job PBGV with 570 Lexington, although I do think the windows should be set back about a bit more to give it more of a 3D effect in game. If it's alright with you could I make a Version 2 using your model as a base? I want to add some more details and textures to it.

SimCity fan, Nice work. The only thing I would change is the nightlighting. It should be more varied in intensity. Do you have the plugin for the nightlighting mod? It adds a bit of realisim to the Maxis nightlites. Textures and the windows look very good.

[simcity4fan12 13]

Hopefully you can fix it. I fixed LOD issues quite a bit before. What's exactly happening to it?

EDIT: No I don't have any night lighting mod. Last time I did something like that, there were no night maps at all, and I had to re-install everything to fix it.

[Kryptowhite 9]

Well I agree with Hanson on the intensity of the nightwindows. You don't even need any plugins for it, all you do is select a section of windows and under the nightwindows tab change the intensity number. Its a small change but it does a lot to make it look better.

As for the day render, its pretty much perfect.

[Evillions 552]

Mind if I can join this team? Although I'm still finishing my Euro building, I'd really like to help out. Just what types of buildngs you want me to model?

[simcity4fan12 13]

Kool! Evillions volunteers, and now you can be part of NYBT! Basically, we BAT any builidng in New York. Whether it's Manhattan, Brooklyn, or any other city in the state of New York. You can model what ever New York Building you please and can still make your non-NYBT stuff. If you want something easy, you wanna do some New York Brownstones? That's only if you want to.

Bad news about 130 LibertyV2's nightlighting= I tried to make individual windows have a different brightness, but they would go completely black instead(even if the intensity was changed to 0.9). Do ya'll think it still would be okay to release it as is?

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

WOW!! another NYBT member that good. Simcity4fan12 its ok to release the building we are all not perfect. I made some Brownstone around the time you made yours but I did not complete it because I was not on the NYBT Team, Im going to see if I can complete it sense im on the team.

[Evillions 552]

Well, I'm rather having trouble searching a picture of Bronx brownstones. Can you give me a picture of any kind just so I can get started?

[simcity4fan12 13]

@Evillions- Here's some random pics of some NY Brownstones that can help you get an idea of what they should look like-



Hopefully these can help you. Welcome to NYBT!

@Aaron Graham- Thanks for the opinion. I'm still gonna wait to release it until the custom query and the ploppable is made by Gwail. I guess I can send the files to him to make the ploppable. Or I can just release it now and update it when the modded one is ready.

[PBGV103 729]

simcity4fan12 - Thats really strange about the nightlights. I use an intensity of .3-.5 on my BATS and they turn out ok.

[Kryptowhite 9]

well you picked the right time to ask.

its 11:30 and honestly all i care about is my head on the pillow in two seconds so go upload i don't care...

[no seriously, its no big problem, the buildings great ]

[simcity4fan12 13]

@Kryptowhite-Lol, it's 10:30 right now in Alex(short for Alexandria for those who don't know about my home town).

@PBG- Yea, it is odd. It didn't do this on my Alex upload- Alexandria Tower. I had it at 0.5 for some windows and they showed up fine.

Gwail- I'm gonna go ahead and upload 130 Liberty Street V2 and update the file with the ploppable with the custom query and the modded flag when you got everything ready for it.

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Here My modle of the Transportation Building its ok for right now. I hope it looks good so far for everyone.

[simcity4fan12 13]

Great work Aaron! It's comming out quite nicely. Cna't wait to see textures applied to it.

I just uploaded 130 Liberty StreetV2!

[PBGV103 729]

I bought a new book tonight! It's One Thousand New York Buildings and it really has 1000 buildings. lol They're mostly small, b&w pictures, but it's giving me the names of buildings I didn't know.

Simcity4fan12 has requested that my next BAT be the City Bank-Farmers Trust Building. I'm going to do the Armed Forces Recruiting Station tonight and it will probably take like 20 min max. I've been home from VT for Thanksgiving and my mom suggested 1585 Broadway and 712 5th Ave. lol I was wondering what you guys think?

[simcity4fan12 13]

Yea! Those will be great! Your mom made some great suggestions too.

[PBGV103 729]

Hey I found a couple problems with 570. I think I'll wait for the new query to come out and update it all at the same time.

[Gwail 52]

Simcity4fan12 - the lot file of the One Brooklyn Bridge wasn't the final version, the ItemOrder property wasn't set properly, sorry. I think, that I will assign to NYBT the ItemOrder at about value 120 (0x78) - for the Landmark menu. Every member will have his own number. You will have #120, the second wll have #121, next #122 and so on. The order will be taken from your signature. It guarantees (less or more - we can't own the position number), that all NYBT creations will be placed in the same menu position.

The custom query isn't the whole we can do to have uniform team image. There are still no custom icons or proper ItemOrder settings, I haven't checked the rest of properties, but usually there aren't any IVNK, IDK. But I don't insist - this is your choice, whether you want to be members of NYBT team or a bunch of creators making their work under the NYBT name. I can only guarantee, that every building given me for modding will be made in the same way, inlcuding all the properties mentioned above (NYBT custom query, icon and itemorder). The rest is up to you .

The NYBT essentials have been just uploaded on the STEX.

Originally posted by: Kryptowhite

You don't even need any plugins for it, all you do is select a section of windows and under the nightwindows tab change the intensity number. Its a small change but it does a lot to make it look better..quote>

That's strange, because that feature doesn't work in my GMAX (Vista rules maybe?). Any value different than 1.0 turns the nitelite off. Can you post any sample pic how does it work (when works   )?

NYBT_5x4_OneBrooklynBridgePlaza_57da5274.zip

[Kryptowhite 9]

Originally posted by: PBGV103

I bought a new book tonight! It's One Thousand New York Buildings and it really has 1000 buildings. lol They're mostly small, b&w pictures, but it's giving me the names of buildings I didn't know.

Simcity4fan12 has requested that my next BAT be the City Bank-Farmers Trust Building. I'm going to do the Armed Forces Recruiting Station tonight and it will probably take like 20 min max. I've been home from VT for Thanksgiving and my mom suggested 1585 Broadway and 712 5th Ave. lol I was wondering what you guys think?quote>

BAT whatever you want to BAT. Its your BAT, therefore your decision.

[Vlasky 1,803]

This is the update on my progress with GM.

It's near completion. I'm lacking textures, and mechanical floor on top and the base is incomplete too. o there is a lot to be done. Yet I have a problem. When I wanted to do a render view, gmax stopped responding. so this is the best I could do. My concern is, how will I export it when I can't even get an preview. Anyhow here's preview

[Seraf 1,238]

I don't have much time for BATing but I see that you guys did a wonderful job

simcity4fan12 - Downtown Club looks very nice, I'm glad to see a lot of details. Great work on Home Insurance Plaza and.... well, 130 Liberty Street is your greatest work, it's absolutely amazing.

Kryptowhite - 599 Lexington is great, especially the night version.

Jumpthefence - 69 and 72 Bayard Street both look nice, I don't know this part of the city too well, it's funny because these buildings are just a couple of streets from my supreme court

PBGV103 - Good work on 570 Lexington, that building is very hard to make but you did a good job with it.

Aaron Graham - Transportation Building looks promising, I'm waiting to see textures

From me... I have serious problems with bethesda terrace... the model is very big (over 2 mln polys) and I don't have enough RAM to render it. I'm going to buy more RAM in a couple of weeks and finish BT.

At now I'm working on Supreme Court, I ported the model from gmax to max and upgraded it. This is a very rough sketch

[simcity4fan12 13]

@Vlasky- It's looking good so far! I don't know why it won't let you render it. Have you tried merging the building in a new scene?

@Seraf- That looks absolutely spectacular! I don't know what else to say except for a bunch of over used words. Sad to hear about the terrace, hopefully you can get more RAM for it! I'm sure there is someone around that might be able to render it though.

Well I just saw Gwail's NYBT Essentials uploaded and now I got some work to do with some of my released BATs. First, I'm going to update One Brooklyn Bridge PlazaV2 with the plop he made for me. Soon I'll update the otheres maybe later today or tomorrow.

I started on a new BAT two days ago, it's a building in the Brutalist Style(My specialty )- New York Marriott Marquis in Times Square. I'll show more pics of it when I get more work done on it.

[simcity4fan12 13]

Originally posted by: Gwail

Simcity4fan12 - the lot file of the One Brooklyn Bridge wasn't the final version, the ItemOrder property wasn't set properly, sorry. I think, that I will assign to NYBT the ItemOrder at about value 120 (0x78) - for the Landmark menu. Every member will have his own number. You will have #120, the second wll have #121, next #122 and so on. The order will be taken from your signature. It guarantees (less or more - we can't own the position number), that all NYBT creations will be placed in the same menu position.

The custom query isn't the whole we can do to have uniform team image. There are still no custom icons or proper ItemOrder settings, I haven't checked the rest of properties, but usually there aren't any IVNK, IDK. But I don't insist - this is your choice, whether you want to be members of NYBT team or a bunch of creators making their work under the NYBT name. I can only guarantee, that every building given me for modding will be made in the same way, inlcuding all the properties mentioned above (NYBT custom query, icon and itemorder). The rest is up to you .

The NYBT essentials have been just uploaded on the STEX.

Originally posted by: Kryptowhite

You don't even need any plugins for it, all you do is select a section of windows and under the nightwindows tab change the intensity number. Its a small change but it does a lot to make it look better..quote>

That's strange, because that feature doesn't work in my GMAX (Vista rules maybe?). Any value different than 1.0 turns the nitelite off. Can you post any sample pic how does it work (when works   )?

quote>

Hmm, well we work as a team to make everything. Well its good that the modding be made the same way...but what exactly do you mean by that? Sorry, some modding talk confuses me sometimes. If it means that all the custom queries are the same, I'm fine with that.  

[PBGV103 729]

Hey guys I had an off-the-wall idea today. It's really been bothering me that the game wants everything (airports, ect.) in a city, and even the large cities are smaller than RL small cities. Since most computers have faster processors and four times the ram of the computers back when the game came out, would it be impossible to make a mod for the game that allowed the creation of larger cities? After all, who wouldn't like to be able to work on the whole of manhattan at once?

[PBGV103 729]

Also, I just started on 345 Park Avenue. The gap between 570 and Seagram was bothering me a lot. Does anyone want to or know someone who would want to start on St. Bartholomew's Church? It's a famous church to the west of 570 and would sit on a 5x4 lot (5 tiles east-west and 4 north-south). It's really a beautiful church and should be done by someone eventually. I think there are a couple people on the STEX who focus on churches but I can't remeber who right now.  Maybe one of them would want to make it?

Sorry I'm focusing on that one small area of Manhattan. Most buildings are designed with their surroundings in mind, so what looks great in RL can look weird or even awful in SC4 because of the randomly grown buildings that just don't match. For instance, the architects that designed 570 Lexington purposely used the same brick as used in St. Bart's in order to keep a look of uniformity in the neighborhood. In fact, the small, often overlooked buildings in Manhattan can make a huge difference in overall apperance because they also pick up on common elements. Thats why I'm trying to focus on one area at a time.

[Jumpthefence 74]

(tiredly) Buh, how long hash it been? I wash in a threads like thish one just some times ago...

(awake) Oh, yeah, I'm finally back to the forum! Hackensack and homework, places to go, people to see, things to do, that such.

But enough of that, Chinatown Shops can be considered done. Unless I encounter a huge problem, I'm shooting for a release on Sunday, the next day I know I won't be doing too much. I was thinking of Little Italy next, namely three or so buildings around the Mott-Hester intersection (if anyone actually knows where that is).

Gwail: I like the new queries very much! I had a version from a few months ago, and it was messing with my game (the queries were all orange), so I couldn't add it to anything. But even though I haven't tested the new version, I'm confident in you. Good work!