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As the title might suggest, I'm not exactly big on the guy.  He made a name for himself for, among other things, attempting to root "corruption" out of some business practices that weren't corrupt at all.  Case in point: He claimed that an investing firm that charged its commissions by percentage of investor profits was corrupt.  That it was somehow a corrupt business practice to calculate commission based on a simple percentage calculation, as opposed to a "flat fee for X number of shares traded, after which, it's X number of cents per share, up to this size of monetary transaction, after which we take this percentage of your profits" system. 30.gif

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In 2004, he was part of an investigation of an escort service in New York City that resulted in the arrest of 18 people on charges of promoting prostitution and related charges.quote>

Everyone did get the concept that I don't like hypocrites, right?

Anyway, enough of my ranting.  Thoughts anyone?


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I was actually surprised he wasn't Republican when I looked up his political background on Wikipedia. Republicans have had a bad problem with scandals and corruption in the past few years; however, Democrats aren't angels either. I hope he either resigns or he looses greatly in the next election. Hypocrites and flip-floppers should not hold office.


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Is it illegal to buy the services of prostitutes?

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Originally posted by: krbe

Is it illegal to buy the services of prostitutes?quote>

In New York, yes.   In most of the USA, except for parts of Nevada, yes.


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I don't know what to say, somehow I am not surprised. Maybe the guy just felt guilty for what he was doing and he decided to crack down on curruption to somehow make up for it, even if some of the companies and business people that were arrested didn't do anything.

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Originally posted by: Micah I was actually surprised he wasn't Republican when I looked up his political background on Wikipedia. quote>

He was getting involved with prostitute women, not men in bathroom stalls.34.gif

Republicans have had a bad problem with scandals and corruption in the past few years; however, Democrats aren't angels either. I hope he either resigns or he looses greatly in the next election. Hypocrites and flip-floppers should not hold office.quote>

As someone in New York I can say this much: he's not all that popular these days as it is, due to his failure to keep promises he made in his campaign. Of course, that's not for lack of trying. The state senate is largely Republican and hates his guts - and as such he has been rendered a bit of a lame duck.

Originally posted by: wannabe123456789 I don't know what to say, somehow I am not surprised. Maybe the guy just felt guilty for what he was doing and he decided to crack down on curruption to somehow make up for it, even if some of the companies and business people that were arrested didn't do anything.quote>

Ah yes, conversion-reaction again. Dealing with your problems by exhibiting hatred for others with the same problems and/or pretending to have exactly the opposite point of view from the one you actually do.


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I supported him during the election. Even though I couldn't vote. But soon after he got into office I changed my mind. He could've done great things in the state, but instead he wasted his political capital on some worthless thing, I think it was appointing a comptroller, instead of something important, like, say, I don't know, balancing the darn budget for once? Then Troppergate, NYRA, and the driver's license thing happened. Admittedly, NYS Senate Republican Majority Leader Joe Bruno and his cronies made sure these scandals were as inflated as possible, but it was still pretty bad.

Back during the election, my sister put a "Spitzer 2006" bumper sticker on our car. I took it off when I got home today. This was the last straw. What I need is a sticker that has "Spitzer '06" and then "Spitzer '07-'08" with a red line through it.

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He basically won on a law and order platform. And then this comes out. Normally, I'm rather blase on things like this, but when your platform is supported by law and order, it makes things like this all the more worse.

I kind of feel the same way about Larry Craig. I could care less what he was caught doing in a bathroom stall. But when he develops an extreme record for anti-gay legislation, then I care.

Spitzer needs to resign now, before he does any more damage to his state.

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i dont see why this should be anything but a family thing for them

plenty of people buy prostitutes. i say leave him alone and let him resolve this with his family

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Originally posted by: sakarr i dont see why this should be anything but a family thing for them

plenty of people buy prostitutes. i say leave him alone and let him resolve this with his familyquote>

Problem is, that he thinks others should be punished for the purchase of sexual favours. Not easy taking the moral high ground, eh?

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Originally posted by: simzebu . He could've done great things in the state, but instead he wasted his political capital on some worthless thing, I think it was appointing a comptroller, instead of something important, like, say, I don't know, balancing the darn budget for once?  the driver's license thing happened.

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I believe Spitzers greatest achievement was the drivers license fiasco.  He opened the eyes to a lot of people on an issue that is extremely volatile.  He also had the right idea in that we can't deny these people services such that they cannot obtain work.  Like it or not Illegal immigrants are a part of our economy, society, and neighborhoods and we need to better integrate them into our society.  

As for balancing the budget regardless of who we elect no one can seem to approve of the danged budget on time.  

I'd proudly re-elect him with or without this little blemish on his record.  He's done and will most likely continue to do great things for the state of New York.  Of course we could just throw him to the dogs like Hevesi, but we'd probably lose the greatest political asset in New York. 

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Politicians are always so corrupt. Always have been, probably always will be.

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True, but what makes this so upseting is that we all though Spitzer was different. We all thought he was the guy who'd help clear up the corruption. Oddly enough, we had no expectations of Andrew Cuomo, who replaced Spitzer as AG. But he's turning out to be the guy who's actually doing things, not Spitzer.

And to mks24, please tell me you're being satirical. Hevesi was a crook, and he got caught. Did you hear anything about "Chauffeurgate"? That's why he resigned: improper use of state resources. And while being in charge of the state's money, too! And while you may have liked the driver's licence plan, most of the state didn't. And Spitzer pushed way too hard on it, just to end up backing down. Regardless of if he was right or not, (not, in my opinion), he didn't handle it as he should have. The plan ended up a miserable failure on his record, not at all a success. A year ago, I would have been willing to let this slide. But I think Spitzer's shown quite well that his skills are as a lawyer, not a governor.

Anyway, I'd imagine he'll be resigning. If i were him, I'd be looking to do that right now, before the story can be stretched out. The last thing anyone in this state wants is another month or more of Hookergate . And his family probably wants to get away from it, too.

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Originally posted by: simzebu

And to mks24, please tell me you're being satirical. Hevesi was a crook, and he got caught. Did you hear anything about "Chauffeurgate"? That's why he resigned: improper use of state resources. And while being in charge of the state's money, too! quote>

 

He was a crook for using a state driver to drive around his disabled wife, a real bad guy right there.  A person cares about family and they're treated like they spit on the Declaration of Independence.  Now where's the justice in that, it's simply not there.  He's a victim of people who are often too judgemental about ridiculous little issues that don't matter in the bigger picture.  And let's be serious here, you can't  honestly tell me that you wouldn't do something similar for a member of your family.  

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Eliot Spitzer is one of Hillary Clinton's super delegates?

The news just mentioned it in passing. 


We can inspire others through witness so that one grows together in communicating. But the worst thing of all is religious proselytism, which paralyzes: “I am talking with you in order to persuade you.” No. Each person dialogues, starting with his and her own identity. The church grows by attraction, not proselytizing.    - Pope Francis

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what a loser!

If anyone lives in the LA area you MUST listen to KFI AM 640, two great shows talk about this idiot!

Bill Handel, John and Ken!

That are very funny!


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Are you kidding me? Well, although she lost him, she still has a large lead over Obama in the superdelegate count... that is, those that are telling the truth.


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Hillary has already gotten in a bit of hot water by her association with him, particularly with the driver's license issue. This ain't gonna help, but I kinda doubt it's the death knell or anything.

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It's official. He resigned.

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Originally posted by: mks24
Originally posted by: simzebu

And to mks24, please tell me you're being satirical. Hevesi was a crook, and he got caught. Did you hear anything about "Chauffeurgate"? That's why he resigned: improper use of state resources. And while being in charge of the state's money, too! quote>

 

He was a crook for using a state driver to drive around his disabled wife, a real bad guy right there.  A person cares about family and they're treated like they spit on the Declaration of Independence.  Now where's the justice in that, it's simply not there.  He's a victim of people who are often too judgemental about ridiculous little issues that don't matter in the bigger picture.  And let's be serious here, you can't  honestly tell me that you wouldn't do something similar for a member of your family. 

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Not with state money, no. That's not what state employees are for. If he takes his paycheck, and hires out a private driver, that's his business. But the wife of the comptroller doesn't get a tax-payed ride.

Anyway, this topic is about a different liar. One who is now no longer our governor.

Also, new bragging rights for New York: First legally blind governor, and fourth black governor!

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I'm a New Yorker myself, but still....

WHO is governor now?

(I'm too lazy to google it)

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Originally posted by: Smarty218

 I'm a New Yorker myself, but still....

WHO is governor now?

(I'm too lazy to google it)quote>

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Originally posted by: joeynymets

Spitzer has resigned and David Paterson will be the new governor of New York [link]quote>


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I just laughed when I heard this, since I live in New York 3.gif

And also isn't David Paterson legally blind?

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