Many Canadians fear third world war looms

[beebs 129]

Originally posted by: flame1396And for the high and mighty Canadians, hmm... guess who followed the US into Afghanistan and Iraq(?)... Mhmm that would indeed be Canada, pretty contradictory to the "very independent" statement being waved around eh? Dragontempest is pretty darned correct.quote>

The high and mighty canadians are in Afghanistan due to a NATO mandate. Most Canadians want our troops outta there.

And if you think Canada's in Iraq, you're sorely mistaken.

Yes, Canada is influenced by America. How couldn't we be? We share a massive border with them. Our foreign policies are still all our own. We stand closer to the UN than the US does. We're much more liberal than the bulk of America. A bit more socialist as well. There's too many differences for us to agree to joining into one nation.

Now as for the third world war, I'd have to say that it's pretty much a question of when rather than if.

[manimal_uk 0]

It will be over quick so I wouldnt worry about it

[The_Dalai_Llama 15]

World War III is inevitable... but who knows when that'll happen. It might not happen in our lifetime. I do think it could end up being a U.S./Europe vs. China/Russia battle royale... with the Middle East throwing pointy sticks at both sides. At that point, I may just move to New Zealand to escape.

As for the whole U.S./Canada "merger" talk... I doubt that ever happening, although some sort of North American union can form in the same way the EU exists today... although that's many decades away.

[DanWalker8 3]

I can see a China V. U.S. war coming in the future.

I compare the united states to ancient Rome. We are wealthy, generally don't want to do hard labor, over extended militarily, we are conqourers, we have massive influence.

We may collapse under multiple pressures from China... economic, or militarily. China is hungry for resources for their growing middle class (compare to germany pre-WWII) and right now the united states is using the non-renewable sources of energy that China needs at alarming rates. Itll be the old superpower vs. the new. I just hope nuclear weapons are not involved.

[DOXXP29 5]

Actually, I think a third "world war" may just happen if the Islamofascists do something stupid enough on a large enough scale and the rest of the world says "Enough" and decides to unite and put the fascists out of business. Let's say they set off bombs or attack several major cities in different countries simultaneously. The affected countries and their allies might just decide that the whole thing has gotten out of hand and has gone too far (not to minimize all of the events that have already occurred) to the point where something has to be done to stop the wholesale bloodshed. Look at it this way...every time they blow something up or attack a city, it really is an act and a declaration of war on their part. They've stated over and over that there is a jihad and they're out to topple western civilization. Really, how many more attacks can the rest of the world stand for? What would the outcome and the response have been if the plots that were caught actually happened? Would the U.K., for example, have stood quietly by if the plots to blow up London, Glasgow, etc. had been carried out?

Right now, the U.S. and some of the other countries are trying to contain and stop the spread of terrorism. What if it can't be contained and it DOES spread? I can see the terrorists doing or plotting enough damage to enough countries that it very well could snowball into a third world war. (And that's not even factoring in the other possibilities like North Korea or any of the other outlaw entities that could possibly do something to instigate a war.)

[patriots_1228 51]

the terrorists are stuck in the middleeast, unless a more powerful country gives them better transporation and weapons, like the US suspects iran is doing.

guys. Following the US in many ways is good. Following Bush, however, is not

[feelgood 0]

Hmm, why should third world war happen? Do we have any reason for this ? And why do terrorists attack the world? What country the should be attacked if we really need to strike back now? Hmm... too many questions....

[patriots_1228 51]

world wars are inevitable. they are like earthquakes. tension keeps building, and then all of the sudden the tension is too strong, and bam, you have an earthquake.

[manimal_uk 0]

Originally posted by: patriots_1228 the terrorists are stuck in the middleeast, unless a more powerful country gives them better transporation and weapons, like the US suspects iran is doing.

guys. Following the US in many ways is good. Following Bush, however, is not quote>

You mean like teach them to fly a plane in the country that they go on to attack?

3 or the 4 London Bombers on July 7th 2005 were British, brought up, lived and educated in England.

The IRA were funded by certain people in the US

[IDS2 3,429]

It's just not going to happen. It's obvious that if anybody launched a war that any rivals would blow each other up. It's pointless, they'd annihilate each other. It's the small crazy countries we have to worry about, like North korea or Iraq, not China vs. the US vs. Russia.

[Micah 16]

Actually, when it comes to Russia vs. US, it really hasn't been a direct conflict between either of them. It was mainly a proxi war in the Cold War and if there were to be a world war in the future, it would be a proxi war between the superpowers as well. People claim we aren't at war with Iran right now, but we are indeed fighting a proxi war with them which means they are sending their militants over the border to cause chaos in Iraq. And Syria is doing the samething on their side of Iraq. Why are they doing this? It's a geopolitical problem where the Arab states to the west want power over Iraq and the Persian state (Iran) wants power over the political affairs of Iraq too.

[patriots_1228 51]

Originally posted by: manimal_uk

You mean like teach them to fly a plane in the country that they go on to attack? quote>

im actually pretty sure they did that by themselves. and it wasnt there plane, it was ours. and we never gave them the right to fly a plane in our country, they hijacked the planes.

3 or the 4 London Bombers on July 7th 2005 were British, brought up, lived and educated in England.quote>

those are different terrorists from the ones im talking about though. im talking about the once in the middle east.

The IRA were funded by certain people in the USquote>

i have no clue what happened during that thing except the irish killed a bunch of britain people. and how is the US funding that any different from one country funding another country who is fighting a war. thats a little off topic^

[Schmicky 0]

Hmm. Too many people are saying future is written in stone. I think thats wrong - yes somethings will happen with our current mentallity and political practices, but it ALL can be changed.

Anything is possible - war is possible, but, war is also NOT possible.

[A Nonny Moose 8,262]

Originally posted by: patriots_1228 NOBody-what chaos? is rather calm right now quote>

The whole of the United States of America is chaotic.  A good example is the chicken little attitude displayed by the Senate in creating the Homeland Security outfit, thus completing the transition from a plutocratic oligarchy into a police state.  If your politicians are capable of knee-jerk reactions like that, I would call that chaos.  Your senate is supposed to be a chamber of sober second thought, not a bunch of self-aggrandizing petty autocrats who really think only of keeping their job.

Electing justice officials is just about as chaotic.  What reason would you have for such nonsense?  This gives justice a bad name, in fact, in the United States she has become a prostitute to the election process.  This isn't the way things should be.

Those are a couple of Canadian thoughts.  And you wonder if we could ever join the U.S.?  Hah!

[fledder200 5]

WW3...is going to happen and it's going to be a masive flame war on the internet, because people are to lazy to get out their chair LOL

well it's going to happen, but hopefully not when i'm alive.

*aims nukes on Belgium* muhahahaha...i hate Waffels....and the people who have the waffel as a national export product.

[diva613 0]

as for Canada joining the US that has happened already remember NAFTA.quote>

 

But in the same respect couldn't you say that about Mexico? and as for us being apart of the States, well that is interesting, yes we have the Free Trade (which is now harder thanks to Border enforcements whether people realize that or not, that goes against freetrade).

In some respects we are Americanized, but it is just because we share one of the largest if not the largest unprotected borders in the world, but the fact of the matter, Canadians embrace multiculturalism, we have a multilingual environment, and we embrace our freedom. 

As for the article, about the thought of WW3, I can understand peoples fears for that, if there is a war with Russia, Iran or pretty much any part of the Eastern World, the likely trejectory of any incoming missles aimed for Washington DC is thru Canada. 

If it was to be blown up before it enters into the American Airspace it would land in canada and the fallout would cover a good portion of our country. 

Sorry this whole talk about Canada is Mini-States, pisses me off, we are not, and we are our own independant country, in our country we have medical coverage, we are multilingual Chinese, Japanese, French, English, that is the Canadian way.

[DOXXP29 5]

I think Marc and IDS2 are correct. The major countries like the US, Russia and China aren't going to start any major wars between each other. They may do some posturing and fist shaking, but they know better. The real problem is the smaller countries who want to grab some land or become a major power. They could start something they think they'll win and cause some serious damage.

I didn't know you were an American political scholar, N_O_Body! You summed up our political system perfectly. Look at any of the "satisfaction" polls and you'll see most people here agree with you. From what I have seen of Canadian politics and the people you have in power, they'd probably be rolling on the floor in hysterics if they were given the "opportunity" to join the U.S. Given that Canada seems to be a pretty intelligent country, I doubt that it would ever happen. I lived in Canada in the '70s and they didn't want any part of the U.S. then. I doubt that much has changed regarding that.

[d4d4020 0]

I am a Canadian and I fear that there will be another large war for as long as the wealthiest, most powerful country on earth is being run by war mongering profiteers. You all forget (maybee not all i didnt read all posts) that the US government LIED and literally fabricated so called evidence which justified bombing the hell out of countries which have done no harm to the US. This isnt the place to get into this but please join us at anti-neocons.com forums where we discuss things of this nature and are AGAINST ALL WARS.

[baystatebill 2]

Originally posted by: N_O_Body

Originally posted by: patriots_1228 NOBody-what chaos? is rather calm right now quote>

The whole of the United States of America is chaotic.  A good example is the chicken little attitude displayed by the Senate in creating the Homeland Security outfit, thus completing the transition from a plutocratic oligarchy into a police state.  If your politicians are capable of knee-jerk reactions like that, I would call that chaos.  Your senate is supposed to be a chamber of sober second thought, not a bunch of self-aggrandizing petty autocrats who really think only of keeping their job.

Electing justice officials is just about as chaotic.  What reason would you have for such nonsense?  This gives justice a bad name, in fact, in the United States she has become a prostitute to the election process.  This isn't the way things should be.

Those are a couple of Canadian thoughts.  And you wonder if we could ever join the U.S.?  Hah!quote>

 

The United States is a police state? What are you taking about? I always like how people who don't live in the US try to tell people what the US is like. What exactly do you mean about electing justice offical? Are you talking about state judges in certin states? Look, many American's have given up some rights in order to try to make  our country more secure and to be better prepared. So what, if I ride the subway a police officer may ask to look in my bag. If I fly on a plane I need to have my luggage searched and I can't bring certin items on board with me. Terrorist cells have been found living in Canada. I'm sure since 9/11 Canadians have given up some freedom's in order to try to protect it's citizens, but like the US it is far fro a police state. 

Maybe instead of writing about something you don't know about you should focus on your own countries own problems such as you lagging economy, welfare and seperation.

[baystatebill 2]

Originally posted by: d4d4020 I am a Canadian and I fear that there will be another large war for as long as the wealthiest, most powerful country on earth is being run by war mongering profiteers. You all forget (maybee not all i didnt read all posts) that the US government LIED and literally fabricated so called evidence which justified bombing the hell out of countries which have done no harm to the US. This isnt the place to get into this but please join us at anti-neocons.com forums where we discuss things of this nature and are AGAINST ALL WARS.

quote>

 

Please inform me of the lies and the list of countries we bombed based on these lies.

[italiano 0]

Interesting Topic. In My opinion this is what is happening in the world. The United States is a declining empire, grasping at straws in terms of maintaining is global military hegemony. President George W. Bush however, imo, has quickened the pace of American Decline. Globalization has also taken its toll on the American Economy, we now live in a world where south east Asia can counter any American produced product with something that is cheaper and more reliable.

Canada's role in the whole thing is as follows. Under the leadership of Paul Martin, Canada was searching and working hard to maintain trade relationships with Asia and Europe. His government was attempting to Open doors around the world in order to help sustain canada during this declining american trend. However, With the election of Stephen Harper we have seen Canada head in a opposite direction. Canada has now joined in on the declining political ideological struggle apparent in the United States.

As for a fear of World War III, in this century we will see great change. We need to change the way we live and the way we operate as a species. It is those who grasp these changes that will succeed, just like the asian automotive industry is currently doing. Knowledge and Technology will be at the forefront. On the flip side we will see change taking place in the third world. Global warming will ensure intra and extra state struggles between the poorest, over populated nations of the world. You will get more decent from poorer nations in regards to the wealthy western world. This is understandible. However between actual world powers I think what we will inevitably see is the dawning of a global Balance of power between Europe, Russia, Asia and the United States. An actual world war can only be fought by using ideological differences in socio-political relations. However, we are seeing at this moment, a global capital movement which will increase and inevitable democratise many regions of the world. This isnt necessarily a good thing.

[Micah 16]

You all forget (maybee not all i didnt read all posts) that the US government LIEDquote>

If the US government lied, then the British government lied. If the British government lied, then the French government lied. If the French government lied, then the Russian government lied. Why do I say all of that? All those countries I listed had the same evidence from the same sources in Iraq that Saddam had WMDs. Thus, a coalition was formed from countries all around the world based on that intelligence. Once it was discovered that there were no nuclear bombs, the intelligence was accepted as faulty intelligence. Faulty intelligence does not equal a lie. Because if it does equal a lie, then all the countries that joined the coalition were lieing. Here's a list of all the countries involved:

Eritrea, Ethiopia, Azerbaijan, Japan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, Mongolia, Philippines, Uzbekistan, Australia, Albania, Armenia, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Republic of Macedonia, Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Slovenia, Spain, United Kingdom, Turkey, El Salvador, Nicaragua, United States, and Colombia.

When you see that list, it almost makes you wonder if WW3 is being fought now.

Edit: *waits for someone to fall into my trap*

[commanderkai 38]

Well...I got kinda confused with this entire article. When I first read the title I thought it meant it would not join the US as Allies in WWIII, which would be utter bull*****

[Voar Tok 4]

Originally posted by: N_O_Body

Originally posted by: patriots_1228 NOBody-what chaos? is rather calm right now quote>

The whole of the United States of America is chaotic.  A good example is the chicken little attitude displayed by the Senate in creating the Homeland Security outfit, thus completing the transition from a plutocratic oligarchy into a police state.quote>

For what it's worth, the media really is a crappy way to come up with opinions on things.  First off, several thousand people are dead because some guys found a security hole and exploited it.  The lives of thousands more hung in the balance and would be decided by whether or not the towers fell over or collapsed on themselves.  This actually shows some intelligent thinking here on behalf of the Senate.  Something was obviously broken, so work was done to try to fix it.  Granted, the Homeland Security Department will never be able to stop all terrorist attacks, but a plane full of people are alive today because Richard Reid never made it past security. 

I had to fly somewhere not that many weeks ago, and for what it's worth, they've actually taken the time to make getting through security a rather painless ordeal if you read the guidelines ahead of time.  Not only that, but as was evidenced by a little flier and the semi-reorientation of my luggage, I know they checked that too.

As for it being a police state, I've done lots of things over the year that would have had me stopped for questioning by now if the US was a police state, yet police officer after police officer has paid little more attention to me than to make sure they didn't hit me with the squad car or something.  In a real police state, a teenager out on a school night after 11 PM in the middle of winter with three inches of snow on the ground would be something that they'd take a real interest in.  To call the the US a police state couldn't be further from the truth.

If your politicians are capable of knee-jerk reactions like that, I would call that chaos.  Your senate is supposed to be a chamber of sober second thought, not a bunch of self-aggrandizing petty autocrats who really think only of keeping their job.quote>

So if One Canadian Place was brought to the ground by a hijacked airplane, the Canadian parliament wouldn't have done anything?  Everyone here knows that had it happened in a place like Canada, England, or any other EU country, there would have been investigations and the whole nine yards.  However, investigations are meaningless if you don't do something about what they turn up.  While we can argue over the processes by which they chose to remedy the problem, that's pretty meaningless when compared to the fact that 9/11 indicated that something needed to be done.  The thing is, the logical deduction of what was said is that if this had happened in Canada, the Canadian Parliament would have avoided such "knee-jerk" reactions and done nothing.

Electing justice officials is just about as chaotic.  What reason would you have for such nonsense?  This gives justice a bad name, in fact, in the United States she has become a prostitute to the election process.  This isn't the way things should be.quote>

First off, nonsense is an adjective backed by a state of an opinion on an issue, which means that the proper use of the adjective is subjective.  Therefore, one man's nonsense may be another man's wisdom.

Now, while I won't speak for all levels of government, federal judges are not elected.  They are, traditionally, appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, as detailed in the US Constitution.  Here in Texas, judges are elected, but that is currently being reviewed for change.  Even still, there isn't anything inherently wrong with electing a judge either.  Whether you need a legislature, a governor, or a judicial system, you want people who are going to do their job correctly.  It is, in my opinion, utter nonsense to assume that a person has the mental acuity to elect a governor or a legislative representative but not a justice.  If you're not able to make a rational decision about a justice, odds are undeniably good that you aren't capable of making a rational decision on a legislative representative or a governor, so if that's the case, why the hell even bother electing people.  So, why not return just return to a government who makes up all our rules for us?  The answer is because THAT is a plutocratic oligarchy.

While the US neither created nor perfect the election process, I fail to see how it has become "a prostitute to the election process."  The statement can't be proved by the case for the election of judges as that is little more than subjective opinion.  Off the top of my head, the biggest accusation I've heard about the US election system is the Electoral College.  While I do not in the least purport to say that this is the grounds for the prostitution of the process charge, I do know that while it's different, it's just another take on the same general thing, which in the grand scheme of things isn't any more right or wrong that other versions of the common election system.

Those are a couple of Canadian thoughts.  And you wonder if we could ever join the U.S.?  Hah!quote>

Those are a few thoughts from an American.

And personally, I'm glad that the US and Canada would never merge.  There's a different mindset about the role of the government in the people's lives in each country.  Neither way is inherently right or wrong - just different.  If Americans feel that Canada's way of doing things is better, then as far as I'm concerned, they are free to move to Canada if they want and change their citizenship.  If a Canadian feels that America's way of doing it is better and want to move, then all I have to say is that they should contact the INS and start filing paperwork.

Also, while we all may play in the same global sand box, with the exception of extreme and rare circumstance or real and present danger to one's own well-being, it's not the right of anyone to mess around in the affairs of another country any more than it's my right to mess around in theirs.  Most historians would tell someone that there never really has been a country in the world like the US before the US was born.  This means that America is different.  We still have to play in the same global sand box, which means there are things that the US should and shouldn't do (and I know that we have done things that we really shouldn't have and vice versa).  However, on internal issues, there's no really compelling reason why an American owning a gun should bother a European nor should a European paying what an American would consider oppressive taxes be of any serious concern to the American.  Neither system really affects others outside of the bounds of that country, and deriding a country for doing something different is nothing more than a narrow-minded approach to life that says that "my way is better."   Truth be told, if Person A believed that Person B's way was better, Person A would join Person B.  So, by mere observation of the fact that Person A hasn't joined Person B, it can be surmised that Person A doesn't agree with Person B's assessment, thereby meaning that Person B's method isn't universally better.  One of the biggest problems in this world is people trying to force their ideas on others who don't like or want them.  If I meet a Brit, he can argue that England is better because they have free health care.  I can argue that America is better because we don't have to pay anywhere near the same tax rate.  We're each right in our own minds because we each have different criteria on what we think qualifies as good.

So, here's a thought.  The next time anyone thinks that someone from a different country is doing it wrong, try going to that country and see if the public feels that they are doing it wrong.  If the public doesn't feel that they are doing it wrong, and it doesn't really affect you, then in reality, it's wrong for you to tell them that they are doing it wrong, because what's actually happening is that they are doing what works for them.  If it works for them, and it doesn't affect you, then it shouldn't be of any of your concern.

Now, with that long-winded post over, here is your $14.97 for your time.

[WackoJak 0]

This is getting a little flamey between USAers and Canadians I think... but my 5 cents:

I'm a kiwi so I can't comment on other cultures positions in this thing, but hypothetically, I believe the 'teams' or 'sides' will be similar to world war 2, because of underlying knowledge that 'That's who we should be fighting.' Of course this wasn't the case in WWI after the American Civil War but, you catch my drift that japanese people wouldn't be to happy about fighting for USA, or China wouldn't be too happy about fighting for Japan.

Also, relations in the Koreas are pretty OK right now, so unless this is all an elaborate ruse by Kim Jong-Il to lure the west into a false sense of security, that shouldnt be a catalyst.

[dakota_stacks 0]

Maybe instead of writing about something you don't know about you should focus on your own countries own problems such as you lagging economy, welfare and seperation.quote>

[dakota_stacks 0]

Originally posted by: Voar Tok

Originally posted by: N_O_Body

Originally posted by: patriots_1228 NOBody-what chaos? is rather calm right now quote>

The whole of the United States of America is chaotic.  A good example is the chicken little attitude displayed by the Senate in creating the Homeland Security outfit, thus completing the transition from a plutocratic oligarchy into a police state.quote>

For what it's worth, the media really is a crappy way to come up with opinions on things.  First off, several thousand people are dead because some guys found a security hole and exploited it.  The lives of thousands more hung in the balance and would be decided by whether or not the towers fell over or collapsed on themselves.  This actually shows some intelligent thinking here on behalf of the Senate.  Something was obviously broken, so work was done to try to fix it.  Granted, the Homeland Security Department will never be able to stop all terrorist attacks, but a plane full of people are alive today because Richard Reid never made it past security. 

I had to fly somewhere not that many weeks ago, and for what it's worth, they've actually taken the time to make getting through security a rather painless ordeal if you read the guidelines ahead of time.  Not only that, but as was evidenced by a little flier and the semi-reorientation of my luggage, I know they checked that too.

As for it being a police state, I've done lots of things over the year that would have had me stopped for questioning by now if the US was a police state, yet police officer after police officer has paid little more attention to me than to make sure they didn't hit me with the squad car or something.  In a real police state, a teenager out on a school night after 11 PM in the middle of winter with three inches of snow on the ground would be something that they'd take a real interest in.  To call the the US a police state couldn't be further from the truth.

If your politicians are capable of knee-jerk reactions like that, I would call that chaos.  Your senate is supposed to be a chamber of sober second thought, not a bunch of self-aggrandizing petty autocrats who really think only of keeping their job.quote>

So if One Canadian Place was brought to the ground by a hijacked airplane, the Canadian parliament wouldn't have done anything?  Everyone here knows that had it happened in a place like Canada, England, or any other EU country, there would have been investigations and the whole nine yards.  However, investigations are meaningless if you don't do something about what they turn up.  While we can argue over the processes by which they chose to remedy the problem, that's pretty meaningless when compared to the fact that 9/11 indicated that something needed to be done.  The thing is, the logical deduction of what was said is that if this had happened in Canada, the Canadian Parliament would have avoided such "knee-jerk" reactions and done nothing.

Electing justice officials is just about as chaotic.  What reason would you have for such nonsense?  This gives justice a bad name, in fact, in the United States she has become a prostitute to the election process.  This isn't the way things should be.quote>

First off, nonsense is an adjective backed by a state of an opinion on an issue, which means that the proper use of the adjective is subjective.  Therefore, one man's nonsense may be another man's wisdom.

Now, while I won't speak for all levels of government, federal judges are not elected.  They are, traditionally, appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate, as detailed in the US Constitution.  Here in Texas, judges are elected, but that is currently being reviewed for change.  Even still, there isn't anything inherently wrong with electing a judge either.  Whether you need a legislature, a governor, or a judicial system, you want people who are going to do their job correctly.  It is, in my opinion, utter nonsense to assume that a person has the mental acuity to elect a governor or a legislative representative but not a justice.  If you're not able to make a rational decision about a justice, odds are undeniably good that you aren't capable of making a rational decision on a legislative representative or a governor, so if that's the case, why the hell even bother electing people.  So, why not return just return to a government who makes up all our rules for us?  The answer is because THAT is a plutocratic oligarchy.

While the US neither created nor perfect the election process, I fail to see how it has become "a prostitute to the election process."  The statement can't be proved by the case for the election of judges as that is little more than subjective opinion.  Off the top of my head, the biggest accusation I've heard about the US election system is the Electoral College.  While I do not in the least purport to say that this is the grounds for the prostitution of the process charge, I do know that while it's different, it's just another take on the same general thing, which in the grand scheme of things isn't any more right or wrong that other versions of the common election system.

Those are a couple of Canadian thoughts.  And you wonder if we could ever join the U.S.?  Hah!quote>

Those are a few thoughts from an American.

And personally, I'm glad that the US and Canada would never merge.  There's a different mindset about the role of the government in the people's lives in each country.  Neither way is inherently right or wrong - just different.  If Americans feel that Canada's way of doing things is better, then as far as I'm concerned, they are free to move to Canada if they want and change their citizenship.  If a Canadian feels that America's way of doing it is better and want to move, then all I have to say is that they should contact the INS and start filing paperwork.

Also, while we all may play in the same global sand box, with the exception of extreme and rare circumstance or real and present danger to one's own well-being, it's not the right of anyone to mess around in the affairs of another country any more than it's my right to mess around in theirs.  Most historians would tell someone that there never really has been a country in the world like the US before the US was born.  This means that America is different.  We still have to play in the same global sand box, which means there are things that the US should and shouldn't do (and I know that we have done things that we really shouldn't have and vice versa).  However, on internal issues, there's no really compelling reason why an American owning a gun should bother a European nor should a European paying what an American would consider oppressive taxes be of any serious concern to the American.  Neither system really affects others outside of the bounds of that country, and deriding a country for doing something different is nothing more than a narrow-minded approach to life that says that "my way is better."   Truth be told, if Person A believed that Person B's way was better, Person A would join Person B.  So, by mere observation of the fact that Person A hasn't joined Person B, it can be surmised that Person A doesn't agree with Person B's assessment, thereby meaning that Person B's method isn't universally better.  One of the biggest problems in this world is people trying to force their ideas on others who don't like or want them.  If I meet a Brit, he can argue that England is better because they have free health care.  I can argue that America is better because we don't have to pay anywhere near the same tax rate.  We're each right in our own minds because we each have different criteria on what we think qualifies as good.

So, here's a thought.  The next time anyone thinks that someone from a different country is doing it wrong, try going to that country and see if the public feels that they are doing it wrong.  If the public doesn't feel that they are doing it wrong, and it doesn't really affect you, then in reality, it's wrong for you to tell them that they are doing it wrong, because what's actually happening is that they are doing what works for them.  If it works for them, and it doesn't affect you, then it shouldn't be of any of your concern.

Now, with that long-winded post over, here is your $14.97 for your time. quote>

 

Thats probably the most intelligent reply ive read so far... and i honestly dont think anything more need be said.

[schm0 27]

Originally posted by: robertg0902 we are already in ww3, it's a war between the west and Islamic extremist, as for Canada joining the US that has happened already remember NAFTA.quote>

Where's my free health care?

On a serious note, and more on-topic with the original article, I think Canadians reflect the thoughts of many Americans who feel that their government has been hijacked by a bunch of war hawks with no accountability and the power to invade a country on the basis of lies and fear-mongering. (The U.S. was the only country to produce false information to its own people and the world as evidence to call for the sanction of war in Iraq. Whether you call it bad intelligence, ignorant buffoonery, or just plain lying, it is a moot point.) Will the U.S. eventually annex the Great White North? Probably not. Well, at least I hope so. Where else will I go if there's a draft reinstatement?

Speaking from someone who lives 25 miles from the Canadian border here in Detroit, we share a healthy and amicable relationship with our extremely polite and politically neutral neighbors. (That's not to say that Canadians aren't willing to put up a fight when the world produces a united front: Canadian troops served proudly in World War II.) As for groups in Canada believing that the U.S. will eventually "control" Canada via "Washington and corporate interests," this merely reflects a growing opinion that U.S. foreign policy is getting out of control.

Will WWIII happen in our lifetime? I certainly hope not, as there are only seven or so countries with substantial troop and infrastructure to produce the scale of destruction seen in those previous conflicts. The world will have to see a dictator the likes of which we haven't seen since Hitler.

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NOBody-You have labeled the WHOLE US, as Chaotic. what you were describing was whats going on in Washington D.C., which is chaos, but as far as im concerned, i havnt seen any "Chaos" in New England since 9/11. So maybe 1 tiny peice of land thats not even a state is chaotic, but the rest of the country seems pretty peaceful to me.

To the whole site-Can we please stop attacking america?? thats all you guys ever do, and its really annoying. and 90 percent of the things you say arent even true. if your going to take cheapshots at a group of people who did nothing to harm you, then at least get your facts straight.

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Here Here Schm0 !!! Well put!