bat56 & the BAT!

[BAT56 0]

Hello Simtropolis, that made a long time that I am here, but I ever had time to create my own BAT.

It's time now!!!

Welcome to my BAT thread... 

at the moment, I use gmax but 3dmax will not delay!

I started with something of simple... six small houses!

OK they is all the same ones, but I will make various versions of the roof.

I'm not satisfied with the night lighting cause it's the default Bat night maps who is not terrible i find... 

...and I have, moreover problem with the night lighting in game, but I without dout will find the solution.

Here a test of one, perhaps, future realization.

Ovo Stadium

Started modeling in Blender long time ago. Still much of work on that one, is not textured and the interior is ridiculous.

Sorry if I does not answer very quickly, but that takes an insane time to me to write in English, But I can only improve.

This week, i undergone a true attack of RL... but I like that!!  

Take Care_______and_______feedback is welcome!

To follow___!

[Sim shady 12]

nice looking house the stadium is coming together nicely, too. Hey you are practicing english by doing this, only good for you

[toxicpiano 125]

Really nice stuff here!

[Jasoncw 11,839]

Looking good!  Your experience shows. 

For the tracks, you can see there is a pattern appearing.  To get rid of that pattern, you would need to make the tracks and the lines wider. 

[BAT56 0]

thank you all, your comments are greatly appreciated.

-Jasoncw: Thank you Mister, i noticed that you were very active in the "BATforMAX thread". Your BAT thread is very useful for me too! 

-The houses are finished soon but I must still fix some small details, no pictures at the moment, but I will try to show you ingame pics quickly.

-I have started to test the "BATforMAX" and I must say that it is 10'000x better than the      BATforGmax!!! 

Need a little time to familiarize me with the raytracing and the shaders. Last night, I carried out this...

NOPIXEL school of graphics

Again, it is very simple and without claim. NOPIXEL is a small graphics company of one of my friend, but the building does not exist.

Still work on the roof, the entry and the windows...

Not made yet a test of export but I believe in it...

Take Care_______and_______feedback is welcome!

To follow___!

[bixel 1,221]

Looks good!! and yeh 3DS is waaaaaaay better than gmax...

[IDS2 3,344]

Hey these are great! I'd love to see those houses. Very realistic.

[GMT 389]

I like this.

small, somewhat generic, but nevertheless well done work so far.

al little details like firestairs... especially roofjunk...

and it's ready for its final render

[Gridlock 9]

Nice so this is how you do it, the first image of the skeleton of the No pixel school, answers alot of questions for me , and gives me many ideas , the clerk of works wouldnt be happy , but from a modeling piont of view you have a very good method, its made me completely reconsider ,many early modeling issues i had yet to overcome , thanks for showing the bat in that form in the 1st picture . Im a newbie to bat and shots like that are a mini tutorial in themselves , thanks for sharing , and the school looks great .

[patriots_1228 51]

yea i just got 3ds. myself, its a ton better. your models are awesome, could you make an american football version of the soccer one?

[SystemUK 0]

Very nice.

How did you do the athletics track?

[jayo 44]

this is great but i have one question,is this supposed to be british styled??

Anyways,great work!!

[cammo2003 20]

First off, the houses look great - I particularly like the roof textures, they look very, very convincing.

The Nopixel building, for some reason though doesn't quite convince me, and I think I might know why... The gradient's going the wrong way. it needs to be dark at the bottom, not the top. It's fixed easily enough... Just go into your graphics editor and flip that texture horizontally vertically. It'll fix it.

Also, I'd consider a concreteish texture variant on the walls, I think a brutalist version of that would look rather good.

It also looks a little stumpy. scale it up vertically a bit.

The stadium looks good, it just needs some good textures to bring it to life. The only thing I might suggest is scaling it up a little... making it a bit more spacious (even smaller stadiums take up quite a bit of land) would look better. It doesn't need to be hugely bigger - even 10% bigger might, IMHO

[SimRabbit 48]

Very neat building, the stadium seems promising.

[BAT56 0]

Hello all…     I must say that I did not expect to receive as many positive messages!

I will try to answer you the best possible...

bixel, IDS2, GMT, SimRabbit: Thank you guys...your positive reaction makes me pleasure and desire for continuing. 

Gridlock: THX, they is although these images are used for somebody, I added some especially for you!

patriots_1228: Thank you Mister, most difficult for me will be to finish it... ...but it will be well-on possible to make an American football of it!

SystemUK: For the lines, i started with a simple cube and I used the orders Extrude and Bend. For the ground, it is a simple Plane.

jayo: Good question... ...I have no idea... ...as I have say it, this building does not exist in the RL. It can be what you want!

cammo2003: Thx for feedback!    For the roof of the house, I have to create all the tiles and I grouped them in 4 groups

                          with different textures.It is much of work but the result is convincing.

                          For NOPIXEL, i reversed the texture of walls (picture2), but I am not convinced of the result… your opinion?

                          I will consider a concreteish texture variant on the walls... when I have time...!

                         

Little update...

NOPIXEL School of graphics

I added small details and tested the Omni inside. I was not very inspired for the roof, not sure that will remain like that!?!?

This is the reversed texture one.

Better or not… give your opinion...

This one is for Gridlock!!!________________________________________________________and for the others too!

I am an autodidact in modeling and I does not do it in a very academic way... but if that can help.

I am pleased to announce you that…  Ovo Stadium is in 3dmax!!!

OK, just a part but it is a beginning.

I will remake the part of bottom. Because of my way of modelling it, I am blocked to make modifications.    a long work awaits me!

The last Picture to show you how the roof of the houses is made:

One week of insane awaits me, it is "Montreux Jazz Festival" and I will not have time for an update before ten days...!

Take Care_______and_______feedback is

[BAT56 0]

Hello all!

NoPixel is ingame but there remains problems...

I used some omni light for the nightlight, but can somebody explain me how to export it please???

I have “to manually assemble it” in the READER???

or to make a second export on the same model???

I have also another trouble. With certain Zoom, the model is replaced by a brown-box. But in the READER, all the preview are ok.

I use 3dMAX7.

I hope that my questions are clear.

Help is welcome...

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Hmmm... odd problems. Since I don't BAT, however, unfortunately I cannot answer your questions.

As for the building, it doesn't look bad, but IMHO something is missing somehow... maybe you could try making the ground floor different from the other floors? The building looks really boxy so far. Oh, and I think that wall around the roof (no idea what it's called) is too thick.

[Jasoncw 11,839]

There should be instructions with the BAT4Max download (after the install instructions) on how to manually do it.

Basically, run the *filenameofyourBAT*.bat file in your 3ds max BAT4Max folder, which will asssemble the .fsh files from your ouput folder.  Then you open the .SC4Model file, and you sort by filetype, delete all of the .fsh files, right click, and insert all of the new ones.

The filename slot in 3ds max needs to have the .sc4model file name, and the LODs in your 3ds max scene need to be the same LODs that you exported before.  But aside from that, you can re-render over and over again, switch the .fsh files in and out as many times as you want, without needing to re-export the .SC4model file from the BAT.

The brown box problem means that some of the files in your .SC4Model file are not there.  And remember that .SC4Model files are not files themselves, they are container files, which hold the true files (.fsh, for example), read the BAT Mega Faq for more info.

Although I don't know why they would "be there" when viewing the model from the Reader, and not there in the game.

[jacqulina 162]

wonderfull houses very nice,great work on your other projects too

[BAT56 0]

T Wrecks: thank you for criticism… I want initially that all functions before launching out in more succeeded models...!

Jasoncw: thx again for your support!!!      I use the AutoExecute commande when I thus export the model so i never sought the .bat file...

I all understands well that you say thereafter, but my troubles are always the same ones… I perhaps will seek side of the deltree.exe!

I use that which comes with the batformax, perhaps that by making it manually, that will function...!?!?

when I look in the outputfile folder, I have 25 .FSH files... that does not seem to me correct...

My English is very limited, that does not help me to solve this kind of problems… but I do not despair to arrive there a day.

...I continue my research... thank you still!!! 

jacqulina: thank you for your support!!!

[T Wrecks 10,209]

If your English is very limited, which languages do you understand better? Maybe there's someone hanging around here who could help you out...

Oh, and I think it's a very smart approach to get a grip of all the important functions of the BAT first and then move on to more ambitious projects. ALthough I wouldn't say that your current BAT is bad. There's just this odd feeling that something is missing... I can't pin it down to any definite point, though. Very annoying.

On a more positive note, it is clearly visible that you have already started on a very high level, so I don't doubt that your current BAT will eventually convince me.

[BAT56 0]

T Wrecks:it is funny of speaking about language here and in the "Translators for members tread"!   

My mother tongue is French. I  does not understand English badly but I speak it badly. especially when the discution is technical... I was not a good pupil at the school... 

I see that you come from Cologne…        sorry but German it is still worse...

No problem with criticisms on NoPixel, it is not terrible you are right, and it is not sure that I continue with!

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Ah, French... I only understand written French more or less, and I can say a few words, but that's about it. Spanish would have been pas de probl

[benvoliothefirst 36]

I'm great with German. Right up until it comes time to decide whether a bucket is male, female, or neuter.

Dann hab ich kopfschmerzen.

[Howling 9]

Mon papa á fume une pipe iis just about all the French I can speak. Oh, that and je ne parlais pas Français (I don't speak French). Wish I had learned it when I had the chance though.

That Nopixel school looks good, but perhaps it needs a back exit. A backdoor, with the occasional boiler room. Also, some airco's in the windows could work - if you're making a North-American or Asian building. The model's good, but looks a bit bland (that means empty in a somewhat boring way).

[BAT56 0]

Hi all...

Little update_____OvoStadium:

Work in progress...

I decided to put my three projects in stand-by, because I want to make ships and Swamper77 will carry them out in automata.

Don't ask me how it makes, I have any idea. It's, at the beginning an idea of Ennedi to make the lakes and seas more alive.

A small example of what I does:

More here: bat56&theBAT @ SC4Devotion

Take Care________Sam!

[Simfan34 11]

Amazing work for a beginning!

[jacqulina 162]

wow very nice i love the boats

[autoVino 26]

Love the boats!  Expecially that translucent material.

[Jasoncw 11,839]

The boats look really nice!