Building Log: World Trade Center (Pre-9/11)

[rubik3 118]

Finally an in game shot of tower 2.  Unfortunately there are rendering errors that I don't know if I can let slip by.  But in order for it to be perfect I have to wait for an update to the BAT.

 

BTW Toroca I have tested and props do indeed show up in the region view.

 

Do you plan to release the towers on the SimCity 4 Lot Exchange as well? In addition to more exposure, you would likely receive a job offer from Maxis within days.

 

I highly doubt that I would get a job offer from Maxis.  It would be nice but unlikely.  I might upload them to the SCex but every time I tried to upload my hotel, it would only upload the lot and nothing else.

 

[Equinox 1,218]

Will the BAT update you need be a big huge project to complete?  I hope it is feasible and Maxis does it ...

[vidioman 21]

You might have to upload it in pieces. I've seen it done before. It looks very good! I can't wait for it to come out! It'll definitely be in the spotlight at the bottom of the page! And an update to the bat came out yesterday. Keep up the good work!

 

-vid

[BigMac 24]

rubik, maybe you can post a list of some of the errors you are encountering? That way some other BATters might be able to offer advice.

[pcsurgeon 2]

Excellent, please pm me, i'd be gald to help share your work

[rubik3 118]

They really aren't problems that anyone except Maxis can help with.  Unless Darkmatter wants to rework some of Maxis' renderer I have to wait for them to fix it.  Here a 2 of the many problems I'm having.

 

Rendered Artifacts:

Lack in detail in further zoom night lighting:

 

[jcabassa 20]

Try telling Maxis about this personally! As in e-mail them or something! Otherwise, they may never figure out how to fix this because no one else had this problem.

 

-jcab

[jcabassa 20]

Did you render at high quality?

 

I KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR NIGHT PROBLEMS! The answer is simpy that you need to cut back on lights! There are so many lights on at once right next to each other, that thats why it looks like that! Some buildings that came with Simcity have the same problem! You need to sapev the lights out so they are not ALL next to each other! Some of them can be next to each other, but there are so many lights on that are right next to each other, that you're having this problem!

 

TRUST ME!!! I'm 99.9% positive this is the source of your problem!

 

-jcab

[DarkMatter 21]

Hmm...Rubik....your render artifacts.....I don't think those are caused by the BAT. I think its caused by a low resolution playing the game, which causes the textures to be rescaled and filtered. Maxis's filtering method is very wanting, and could be made better, at the cost of performance. If you play at 1600x1200, texture artifacting is FAR less noticable (although you start getting seams between each texture on larger buildings), and for the most part, there isn't any texture artifacting at all. If you can't run at 1600x1200, I can test the building out for you and post some pics, but generally, textures sometimes get oddly streached/shrunk when you use lower resolutions in the game.

 

 Also, about the night lighting issue....could you upload the .SC4Model file somewhere so I can download it and do some tweaking? I have a couple ideas. https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/images/smilies/2.gif>

[vidioman 21]

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On 2/25/2004 6:52:34 PM jcabassa wrote:

 There are so many lights on at once right next to each other, that thats why it looks like that! Some buildings that came with Simcity have the same problem!

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The McCathy condos (blue ones) have a similar problem. But this is the WTC! Put as much detail in it as possible! No lot is too big!!

[DuskTrooper 316]

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On 2/25/2004 6:20:58 PM rubik3 wrote:

 

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Is that white building the wren insurance/  It TOTALLY ENGULFS IT IN SIZE LOL!

[pcsurgeon 2]

my game does exactly the same, also with other buildings... what graphics card do you use?

[+Guest]

The lights close together makes it look more realistic, seperate lights will make it look less realistic.

[rubik3 118]

but generally, textures sometimes get oddly streached/shrunk when you use lower resolutions in the game.

 

 Also, about the night lighting issue....could you upload the .SC4Model file somewhere so I can download it and do some tweaking? I have a couple ideas.

 

I tried with all settings maxed and its the same thing.  Meet me in the hot tub to see for yourself.

[davidhogan 1]

i've noticed that i occasionally get texturing problems on stock buildings, move away, rotate, then go back, and if there are any problems, they're in a different spot. seems like that would be a display problem rather than a modeling problem.

overall it looks really damn amazing, it's bringing back memories of june 25, 1995 when i went to the top (for the first time.) it was one of the coolest buildings i'd ever seen, and this is an amazing re-creation of it. great job.

dave

[karageur_off 1]

Woooow. 8 pages just for 1 building. Anyway. It's AWSOME!

[Smurfer2 7]

I think it looks good. I look forward to any and all pictures of your great creation. Tower 2 looks close to being finished!https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/images/smilies/1.gif>

[toroca 162]

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On 2/25/2004 9:30:13 PM karageur_off wrote:Woooow. 8 pages just for 1 building. Anyway. It's AWSOME!

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/images/smilies/9.gif border=0>

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Well, actually for an entire complex of buildings...  Two of which have been created so far...

[Woulfe 1]

Yup several bulidings on a 16 acre site....

In lower Manhatten....

A long time ago....

These are looking so life-like that it's hard to belive that they'er mearly for a GAME of all things, but that's a GOOD THING [tm]

Yes I noticed that even Maxis made stuff suffers from slight errors due to the graphic card / cpu / ram / whatever have you, guess more ram would solve many of these graphical glitches we keep seeing, but they seem to clear up after rotateing or zooming, so we just live w/ them, go fig

Woulfe
* We Built SimCity, We Bulit SimCity On Bits & Bytes *

[BigMac 24]

Today is the 11-year anniversary of the 1993 bombing at the World Trade Center, which marked the first time that America had been attacked on its own soil by foreign terrorists. I'm reminded that in 1995, a memorial fountain in an approximately 30-ft by 30-ft space was installed on the grounds of the trade center in an alcove between the Marriott hotel and the north tower. It commemorated the six people who died in the attack.

 

rubik, you might choose to leave it out of the lot so as to capture the spirit of the World Trade Center at a time before terror struck at all, but in case you decide to include the fountain, below are some pictures and here is a panorama in which it can be seen from a distance (zoom in with A). Also,  here  is a site with more information on the memorial fountain from its sculptor. It perished on 9/11 save for one piece of granite, which was later recovered at Ground Zero.

 

http://www.ifar.org/911photos/mem2.jpg>

 

http://www.ifar.org/911photos/thumbmem3.jpg>

 

The inscription read:

 

On February 26, 1993, a bomb set by terrorists exploded below this site. This horrible act of violence killed innocent people, injured thousands, and made victims of us all. This fountain is dedicated to the memory of those who lost their lives.

[Smurfer2 7]

I enjoy looking at the pictures Bigmac. They remind me of something I wanted to see...... Looking forward to the next update!

[oneil_1 140]

OMG I need to have it!
good jub! are you going to do it all together? (WTC1 WTC2 and the plaza in one lot)

[kennethcole212 2]

Rubik,
Gorgeous! Absolutely amazing. I can just picture these towers gracing the skyline of my version of Lower Manhattan. As a New Yorker I can't wait for it! I've had to settle for using the bank of china tower twice, to get something into ground zero. Also I used the Columbia Seafist Center for 7 World Trade Center. I just couldn't leave it blank or a huge park or plaza. I check this thread everyday and I think my Simcity 4 experience with be greatly, enhanced by your creation. Thanks a million!!

[guinea 31]

looking good   i cant wait till its up for download

[Simguyuk 0]

I'm sorry if you've already said this, but there are so many replies to sift through, are you going to make a growable and a plopable version and about how big do you think the file will be.

[jeeper 14]

Look back on the last 2 pages and you'll find out how big he thinks they are gonna be.

[ravens31 1]

I think that you should not include the memorial fountain, in order to capture the World Trade Center before any terrorism happened there. I don't want anything that would remind me of terrorism in the game.

[rubik3 118]

Thanks as always for the pics Bigmac...I hope you're still going to be around when I get to the rest of the complex https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/images/smilies/2.gif>.  I think what I'll do I leave out all memorials but will include a prop package that will contain various real and created memorials that people can put into the lot themselves.

 

There will be no growable version.  I for one don't want to see 50 World Trade Centers pop up around my city, and I don't think there will be that many people that will want a growable version.  I'm going to leave it up to the individual user to do it themselves.

[Equinox 1,218]

Uh ... the whole tower is a giant symbol of terrorism ... don't quite see how a tiny memorial would make any difference ...

[vidioman 21]

Why would you call the WTC a symbol for terrorism? Thats like racism, but toward buildings. Its rude, especially since so many people lost there lives on that horrible day. I thinkk Immortilizing WTC in the BAT is the ultimate memorial to the victims of 9/11. You should think before you right, or explain what you mean before you press submit

 

-vid