Tutorial... How to create an Underwater Neighbourhood Connection that works for everything (that can use Tunnels).

[City_Slider 2,716]

Hello Majors,

and welcome to my "Underwater-Neighrourhood-Connection" Tutorial.

With those kind of Connections, you can let everything move, even Freight. We dont need Metros for it, only Roads or Tracks.

What is needed? Not that much. First of all... the "sealevelzero.Dat" (Made by the NAM Team) is for sure needed:

_sealevelzero.dat

And the Hole Digger from smoncrie: Hole Digging Lots V2 (Not on the LEX): https://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/3599-hole-digging-lots/

Thats all ;-)

Let´s get startet. 

We even the Ground around the future Exit from the Highway and Rail Yard Tunnel by using Street Tiles. We are using the Hole Digger (15 Meters) to made our Tunnel Exit (i did it for the Highway befor):

It should looks like this after:

In the "Holes", our future Tunnels will end.

Go out of the Game (dont forget to save) and put in the DAT File in your Plug in Folder and restart the Game/City. It should be looks like in the following Picture... all the Water is gone (temporäry).

Now we set a "Mark Line", so we dont need to scroll left/right all the Time.

Even the Ground at the End, like you see in the Picture:

Set the Railway and the Highway to a Neighboorhood Connection and rieser 2 Tiles away up to 15 Meters:

Even the Ground by using Street Tiles.

Delet all Street Tiles out of the Exit´s:

And set the Highway Tunnel:

Same with the Railway:

The 1st City is done, let us switch to the other... follow me ;-)...

 

Built the Railway and the Highway like befor:

... and the other City is done:

Thats how it looks like without any Water:

Thats it, save the Work and go out of the Game. Remove the sealeavelzero.dat out of the Plug in Folder and restart the Game. After restart at City, the Water will be back (after you enteryed a City).

Let us see, if the Networks are working, like they should be:

And the Trains?:

The other Side with Highway Freight:

Thanks for your Attantion. Hope my English wasnt that bad, like i think ;-)

I´ll be back with the next How Too soon.

Greetings, Oliver

[jeffryfisher 2,176]

I'm amazed that the return of water doesn't destroy the road and rail stubs around the connections. I wonder what else can be built down there that can survive being inundated. Maybe my big functional airport complexes should be off the coast rather than hogging valuable real estate.

[City_Slider 2,716]

Hi Jeff,

everything, that can use Tunnels.

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Other Natworks wont work. Trust me, i was testing it a long Time.

Well, like you saw in the other Tread, it is possible to built everything under Water ;-)

[City_Slider 2,716]

On 25.1.2021 at 6:32 PM, jeffryfisher said:

I'm amazed that the return of water doesn't destroy the road and rail stubs around the connections. I wonder what else can be built down there that can survive being inundated. Maybe my big functional airport complexes should be off the coast rather than hogging valuable real estate.

Sorry, that cant work. It works only for Tunnels. Trust me, i was testing like Hell whats possible.

I need to *Edit* my Posting. It is possible to build everything underwater.

[kschmidt 6,255]

Amazing discovery a connection like that would survive. I allready suspected this had to be done like diagonal bridge enabler with lowering the water level. Bridges aren´t affected this way ? More tiles in between maybe the breaking point, aswell the 2 squarre connector.  ? You can make a corner connection as well as any adjacent tile is usable with even a network of connections As there´s a tunnel going under water, anything is posible ? Rail sub merged underwater !

 

 

[City_Slider 2,716]

By the Way... i never tryed it in a growing City. I did it all befor i start a new one.

But why should -setsealevelzero destroy all Buildings? I´m going to test it out...

*EDIT* the Rain Tool destroys everything, not that DAT File.

[CorinaMarie 29,934]

5 hours ago, City_Slider said:

But why should -setsealevelzero destroy all Buildings?

@Naomi57 is prolly referring to the Ctrl+x cheat: SetSeaLevel 0 rather than that mod you found and use. (The setting of the sea level to 0 is one part of the NAM's DBE mod instead of a separate single setting like setsealevelzero.dat.)

[Naomi57 2,985]

15 hours ago, CorinaMarie said:

21 hours ago, City_Slider said:

But why should -setsealevelzero destroy all Buildings?

@Naomi57 is prolly referring to the Ctrl+x cheat: SetSeaLevel 0 rather than that mod you found and use. (The setting of the sea level to 0 is one part of the NAM's DBE mod instead of a separate single setting like setsealevelzero.dat.)

Yes, I was referring to that Ctrl+x cheat: SetSeaLevel 0 which is apparently very destructive, though I've never used it, only read about it.  The DBE or _sealevelzero.dat, are much better options that way.

On 26/01/2021 at 4:32 AM, jeffryfisher said:

I'm amazed that the return of water doesn't destroy the road and rail stubs around the connections. I wonder what else can be built down there that can survive being inundated. Maybe my big functional airport complexes should be off the coast rather than hogging valuable real estate.

I haven't tried it yet, but you could probably plop the entire airport underwater.  I'm guessing that wouldn't be a good look, but .... mmmm, I am curious about that!

I put a Large Fire Station underwater in one of my cities, using DBE, works like a dream.  

• https://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/758778-show-us-your-underwater-pedmalls-and-other-quirky-underwater-creations/?tab=comments#comment-1728524

FLUPs pedmalls work underwater, too, and I tested to make sure they have no impact on ferry routes passing over them, so that's another underwater option.  As a bonus, you can place FLUPs pedmalls just by switching to Water Pollution view, no need to change the sea level.  However, if you want to bulldoze them, you'll need the DBE or _sealevelzero.dat.  There's lots of FLUPs pieces that can be plopped underwater, but SC4 technology doesn't extend to underwater bulldozing.  

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EDIT:  Correction, on experimenting a little, the underwater bulldozing doesn't work in Water Pollution data view.  If you want to bulldoze underwater, you have to switch out of Water Pollution view, so you'll need some other way of seeing underwater, or else close your eyes and B,click hope for the best!  

[Kloudkicker 4,565]

8 hours ago, Naomi57 said:

EDIT:  Correction, on experimenting a little, the underwater bulldozing doesn't work in Water Pollution data view.  If you want to bulldoze underwater, you have to switch out of Water Pollution view, so you'll need some other way of seeing underwater, or else close your eyes and B,click hope for the best!  

I found the extra file in @Raymond7cn's helps big time placing and removing FLUPs underwater.

It will just remove the water surface texture. It lets you see the bottom of the sea. Placing and removing the FLUPs is easy. I kept it for future underwater work. Definitely worth checking out.

Also I found FLUPs can run under a bridge that's over water. I have only tried on a monorail bridge, but both networks work fine.

  Edited January 30, 2021 by Kloudkicker  

[rsc204 21,869]

On 30/01/2021 at 5:27 AM, Kloudkicker said:

Also I found FLUPs can run under a bridge that's over water. I have only tried on a monorail bridge, but both networks work fine.

This I did not know was possible, if so you could use such a workaround whilst the Rain Tool's water was still in place to have properly functioning networks under Bridges... off to test that.

[City_Slider 2,716]

On 30.1.2021 at 5:27 AM, Kloudkicker said:

Also I found FLUPs can run under a bridge that's over water. I have only tried on a monorail bridge, but both networks work fine.

An Example would be nice.

[Kloudkicker 4,565]

59 minutes ago, rsc204 said:

This I did not know was possible, if so you could use such a workaround whilst the Rain Tool's water was still in place to have properly functioning networks under Bridges... off to test that.

I used two one way FLUPs to reach Raymonds Vertiport. Now that I think of it, I used it some other time also.

[Kloudkicker 4,565]

50 minutes ago, City_Slider said:

An Example would be nice.

That may take a little bit. It is on my biggest city, I will see what I can do.

[City_Slider 2,716]

On 29.1.2021 at 9:48 PM, CorinaMarie said:

@Naomi57 is prolly referring to the Ctrl+x cheat: SetSeaLevel 0 rather than that mod you found and use. (The setting of the sea level to 0 is one part of the NAM's DBE mod instead of a separate single setting like setsealevelzero.dat.)

Ah, thats why...

setseawaterzero let the Water gone and changed the Ground a little, so you can build better on the Seaground. After replacing, the Ground is back to look like before (and the Water ;-) ).

[City_Slider 2,716]

19 hours ago, Kloudkicker said:

That may take a little bit. It is on my biggest city, I will see what I can do.

Only a Picture, nothing more my Friend ;-)

[Kloudkicker 4,565]

1 hour ago, City_Slider said:

Only a Picture, nothing more my Friend ;-)

That's going to take a miracle. Apparently I miss spoke about that working. I really thought it was working before I had to reconstruct the bridge. In doing some work I had an accident a destroyed the mono bridge, and at that point I had to move the FLUPs because they would not place in the same spot. It took so long to get it back to "working". And now I find out the tile below the bridge is a reserved tile. So much for that waste of time. I need to look back at my screenshots and see if I have one of it working. But that's not going to be easy either, 1500 pics and most have 3 screens in it, so they are tiny preview.

Kloudkicker