Parallel Ports

[huzman 445]

How do you place harbors and such, parallel to the coast shore instead of being perpendicular? I mean to save space instead of building extra large rivers.

[SecretMbr_735754 2,157]

Is this what you had in mind?   Its all I could think of from your description.

[huzman 445]

It is indeed. How do you do it in shores? In a peninsula I can understand it. From your image, can you get a parallel port in the top port?

Sorry for my poor post. Let me explain: Someone posted a very funny post about a lot of harbors parallel to the coast shore. It produced A huge transport boat... But that's beside the point. The point is that I'm building a region with a main river. It is a very wide river but not good enough for parallel ports. Some areas are good for perpendicular harbors, but they block the river. You see, places like London and Amsterdam -I think- have lots of Parallel Ports on both sides. Is this making any sense? Thanks for your post.

[SecretMbr_735754 2,157]

48 minutes ago, huzman said:

You see, places like London and Amsterdam -I think- have lots of Parallel Ports on both sides. Is this making any sense?

The parallel port that I have found and used is linked below:   This one might serve your purpose.

 

[jaredh 195]

I think the answer is use the CDK3, BSC Seaports, the one linked above, or some other custom port that runs along the shore the way you want.

The Maxis one is not going to do what you want.

[huzman 445]

21 minutes ago, RandyE said:

This one might serve your purpose.

I will give it a try. Thanks for the tip.

 

9 minutes ago, jaredh said:

The Maxis one is not going to do what you want.

No it doesn't.  I was hoping for some other solutions, like third party harbor mods. See above, it may be my answer. Thanks anyway.

[jaredh 195]

Either the BSC or Pegasus seaport controller can run the boats down the side of the harbor like you want if the lots are setup that way.

[huzman 445]

Hum...Could you expand on those controllers? Do they allow parallel harbors? Where are they? Good tip, thanks.

[jaredh 195]

CSDK3 is in the STEX here, just search for it.

the BSC one is on sc4d in their LEX.  There are many dozens of lots.  Its better to just search this site or sc4d for details....these are old, very extensive seaport controllers that I can't give justice to.

Just don't use both at the same time...they are not compatible.

[huzman 445]

Great! Will try one and the other. Good advice Jaredh. Muchas gracias!

[twalsh102 1,601]

What you have to understand through all of this is that all seaport lots are designed to be placed a certain way.  There is a certain part of the lot that must be placed on land, and a certain part that must be placed on water.  These cannot be changed.  Therefore, there is no way to change a lot that was designed to be placed perpendicular to the shore, and place it parallel to the shore.  Seaport controllers do not change this behavior.

A seaport controller determines what seaport lots are functional in-game (i.e. what lots can act as cap relief and receive freight from industrial lots).  Different seaport controllers (i.e. BSC or PEG) are not compatible, so you cannot mix and match seaport lots.  This WILL cause CTDs. 

You might want to take a look at the PEG relots by @Tyberius06 in his Heretic Seaport Project.  If you like what he did, be prepared for a LONG dependency list.  Such is the price of using great work.

[Tyberius06 12,171]

37 minutes ago, twalsh102 said:

What you have to understand through all of this is that all seaport lots are designed to be placed a certain way.  There is a certain part of the lot that must be placed on land, and a certain part that must be placed on water.  These cannot be changed.

I'm not sure that's true. When you building a lot from scratch in PIM-X, you can't modify if it lays on water  or partially water and land, that will be a land lot anyway (at least in PIM-X I couldn't find a way to modify that.) BUT in Lot Editor there is option to change which part of the lot stay on land and which part goes above the water. I have among the above mentioned Heretic SeaPort Project lots item which is 9x20 and I think at least 16 tiles are above the water, but other lots have the standards into that set, which has only 2 tiles above the water the rest is lays on land. And I have lots which totally lays on water without land connection. However I'm not sure that you can modify FUNCTIONAL Seaports the way like this.

You're right about different set of seaport controllers can't be mixed, but with a little trick you can put the PEG Seaports under the BSC Seaport controller, but I never tried and I'm not sure how it is working. I've never played with the BSC Seaports.

 

- Tyberius

[jaredh 195]

As far as I know, you can mix BSC and PEG lots, you just can't have both seaport controllers running.  

[huzman 445]

Oh that's a good tip. Merci jaredh.

[jaredh 195]

Everything just becomes eye candy.  Just don't install ANY of the functional lots for a seaport controller you aren't using.

 

AKA, you can use all the BSC non-functional lots while using Peg's (or the Heretic) controller, but not the actual functional ones.  I'm guessing you can make the functional lots non-functional but I've never explored that idea.