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Sorry to burst everyones bubble but this has just been released to teh media this week..

A British practice is set to amaze the international architectural community by unveiling plans for the world's tallest building, the AJ can exclusively reveal.

London-based Eric Kuhne & Associates is in secret highlevel talks with senior Kuwaiti government officials about plans for a tower over 1km high in the Middle Eastern country.

The next highest building in the pipeline is the Burj Dubai, SOM's tower, which is currently under construction.

Its height is a closely guarded secret, but it is thought it will be between 700m and 800m when completed in 2008.

According to Kuhne, his 1,001m-tall tower will form the centrepiece of the new Madinat al Hareer, which translates as 'City of Silk', forming a 'surrogate capital for the Middle East' to house 700,000 people. The architect claims constructing the city

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Date: 12/10/2005 12:18:56 PM
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Sorry to burst everyones bubble but this has just been released to teh media this week..

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London-based Eric Kuhne & Associates is in secret highlevel talks with senior Kuwaiti government officials about plans for a tower over 1km high in the Middle Eastern country.

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According to Kuhne, his 1,001m-tall tower will form the centrepiece of the new Madinat al Hareer, which translates as 'City of Silk', forming a 'surrogate capital for the Middle East' to house 700,000 people. The architect claims constructing the city

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    I have a sneaky feeling that will buildings will be ugly when they're built, since they seem to completely tower over their neighbours.

    Matthew

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Date: 12/8/2005 10:58:18 PM Author: hamsterTK

where are you guys getting this crazy idea from? The reason why we dont have idiotically high towers like this being planned for the US sans the freedom tower is because there isnt a demand for one. Geez, who the heck would want to live or work on the higher floors of those anyways. It would suck being so high that you have to change elevators multiple times or be colder in the winter because of the height, or deal with the sway thats bound to happen on the upper floors. Id rather have a nice neighboorhood then one nice tower anyways.

 
Well, why would they build such higher buildings in a suburb of New Delhi? Why plan them for anywhere? It's all about showing the world that you are able to build something bigger and better; taking building architecture and engineering to the next level. If they were truly concerned about losing space to elevators and whatnot, they'd just build four smaller towers or something.
 
Another thing is, without skyscrapers, cities would be a hell of a lot more spread out, and that means, more cars, spaced used for roads and freeways, pollution, longer commute, and a lot less free land in the world. More trees would be cut down, farmlands dug up, etc. The population isn't getting any smaller, and we need to give these new people homes. We also need to limit how much a city can spread out--hey, why not build taller buildings to house more people on the same amount of land taken up by four single-family homes?
 
The fact of the matter is, building sustainable cities--safe, secure, and clean, requires skyscrapers. If you are building higher buildings, one idea could be to connect them up on the 100th floor or so with a footbridge, like what the Petronas Towers have (except lower).
 
And let's face it.......city skylines are pretty damn impressive to look at--especially when every building is lit up at night.

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WOW thats the ugliest building I've ever seen.

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This is strange....New Delhi has ample space to spread out. A tower like this should be built in Mumbai(Bombay), India, where it won't seem so out of place. Mumbai has plenty of skyscrapers 30-50 stories tall, with scores more being planned. A majority of them have affiliation to Hafeez Contractors. Also, there is little change New Delhi's government will allow a skyscraper that tall...considering that the building cap is set at around 20 stories...(I may be wrong, the ordiance may have been repealed). Also, The reason this will not be built in the central city: Indian cities are laid out differently than Western Cities. The city centre is often old, and historical, and most commercial development is in affluent suburbs. Indian suburbs are not like typical American Suburbs, Indian suburbs have high densities too. Here is a pic of Mumbai's skyline...The Noida Tower would not look out of place there.

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As for the ugly design, this is India. What may be considered ugly in the west may seem en vogue here, considering there are discrepancies in architecture.
   

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 I want to make a comment on why the U.S. isn't in the competition for the world's tallest building. As said by hamsterTK, we don't have any real reason to make a huge building besides for maybe the grandeur. We have the strongest and most advanced economy in the world, so we don't have to prove anything. Not to mention the fact that terrorrists only give us reasons not to build them. Also, any success for a country in the Middleeast will be short-lived. They can't supply us with oil forever, and if you watched the news, then you'd see that we are developing hydrogen cars. Even if they aren't going to be profitable or marketable  for at least another 20 years, the facts show that the Middleeast is going to have some serious economic problemsin the not-so-far future.

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See what I mean? Proposals for a new WTB come around every few years, at least before the latest Eastern Boom. Rarely, if never, they get built, and usually at a smaller scale than originally proposed. This Noida Tower doesn't look like much, mind you it's a bad rendering. If it gets built it'll go through several modifications.
 
 
 

 

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    just to tell you, all of those are cancelled or visions...

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    out of all the visions on skyscraperpage, the illinois has to be the most beautiful.

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    All these tall buildings are nice, but you wouldn't want the lifts to break down if you lived on the top floor.

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    Well there goes billions of dollars down the drain for some hideous 'structure'.

     
    But you forgot something, Burj Dubai will be 2,625 ft tall.
     

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        The Burj Dubai will be over half a mile tall.  Personally, I don't think the design is that bad.  It looks like the Sears Tower's mother or father or something.

        Matthew

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    Insperation comes standard...

     
     
    I'd build any one of those in my city. 1.gif
     
    I wouldn't mind the ability to build the Palm Tree's as cities either. :D
     
    Now, if I only had a few $$ billion...
     

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    Man, I have got to agree with louisville327 and gashleyf, The oil based economies of south central Asia are going to eventually falter. When they do they will have to had developed service/financial economies much akin to the EU and the USA because otherwise there is nothing for them to base their economies on.  Oil is mineral to be mined, once the mine is empty or the mineral is of less and less use to those who consume it, their economies will collapse.  

    -A

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    Date: 12/31/2005 7:53:24 PM
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    Man, I have got to agree with louisville327 and gashleyf, The oil based economies of south central Asia are going to eventually falter. When they do they will have to had developed service/financial economies much akin to the EU and the USA because otherwise there is nothing for them to base their economies on. Oil is mineral to be mined, once the mine is empty or the mineral is of less and less use to those who consume it, their economies will collapse.



    -A

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    Unfortunately for us, it's pretty difficult to run a service/financial economy without oil, either. Wal-Mart already suffered pretty seriously after Katrina when oil prices went sky-high. Their national distribution network relies on trucks that can't run without cheap diesel fuel, and you can't make cheap diesel without cheap oil.

    And no, don't anyone say what about bio-diesel? because you can't make bio diesel without cheap crops like corn, and you can't make cheap crops like corn without petroleum-based fertilizers...

    But this is slightly off-topic. The building in Kuwait will never be built. Trust me.

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    I guess my point would be that, We, in the west, have non-desert climates, vast mineral resources, huge military infrastructure, huge financial infrstructure, highly educated populations, freedom of thought. . .etc, etc. With which to tap into when restructuring our economies.  The countries of south central Asia don't have these resources. They simply have oil, and when it's gone there will be nothing left but dirt, and angry oppressed pesants.

    Have you read Jared Diamond's works? He dosen't speak directly about this, but between Guns,Germs and Steel and Collapse you can see the writing on the wall. Those with copious resources will fare better in the looming energy shift/crisis. 
     
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    I have indeed read Mr. Diamond's works, and I generally adhere to the sociological perspective of sociocultural materialism, as he does. The success and failure of societies depends largely on their geographical location and available resources---in fact, the entire structure and particularities of their cultures depend on them.

    You raise a good point about most Western countries being in a better position to deal with the coming decline of oil, but it still won't be easy, as we've become quite fond of driving everywhere, living in huge houses, and getting food from exotic locations at affordable prices.

    The transition will be difficult for everyone, but you're definitely right that the Middle East will fare the worst.

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    Ah, louisville327 you never let me down.  I'll be fine as long as we can import Belgian ale.

     
    -A

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    I doubt this construction will ever be built.
    Who's going to invest money to such an expense, when we have so swiftly growing internal expenses? Remember a sad experience of previous projects like Millenium Tower in Hong Kong and Russia Tower in Moscow. Both of them were supposed to become the tallest buildings, but eventually no investors were found to build them.

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    OMG! It's The Dark Tower!!!!! Well, that's it, in a hundred years, the human race will be reduced to feudal Wild West kingdoms, Roland will seek the ND tower, and Stephen King will write about it and mess up the whole ending.

    I can't wait.
     
     
     

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    Lifts have a limited amount of travel and it is well documented that for these larger buildings you have to travel via a number of lifts. I.e. if the lift is up to 50 floors max and the tower is 150 floors then you have to use 3 seperate lifts. I know the Japanees are looking into new technology and even an old way i.e. rack and pinion could be used for the longer travel distances.

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    Ugly pointless towers... SkyCity is cooler... as it is a self contained city...

    'sides they should've rebuilding the WTCs...

    -Azure Skye

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    Date: 12/31/2005 2:59:35 PM Author: toxicpiano out of all the visions on skyscraperpage, the illinois has to be the most beautiful.
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    Ah, the Illinois....
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    I personally like the more realistic Fordham Spire.
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    I say let the rest of the world have their tallest building. It's a title that never lasts long. Chicago will just keep building new, wonderful, architectural masterpieces, and hopefully preserving it's old ones, to enhance its magnificent skyline.
     
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    By the way, anytime I hear of Wal-mart suffering, I feel some satisfaction.
     

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