Double-Deck Bridge Experiment

[smoncrie 43]

ILL Tonkso, I have not forgotten you.  Do you want your bridge to be like a Maxis suspension bridge?  How would your bridge look if it was 1.5 times as long? How about 3 times?

brtim2 and realdimension, we are thinking about a tutorial.  I am afraid it will take a while.  I am busy with RL at this time of year.

Andreas, I am not sure what you mean.  It is already possible to create very high bridges that are similar to the models you showed.   A bridge that is exactly like your models is possible (no curves or underpasses), but I am still not sure how many bridges of the same type can be added.

Murakumon, there will almost certainly be new bridges in the next NAM.  Double deck bridges, may or may not be in the next NAM.

AfroThunda and DragonMasterNYC, a temporary mod may well be released, but it will depend on the current version of the NAM.   Since new bridges and the NAM both depend on the same files being modified, new bridges will need to become part of the NAM.

humanleague, there is still no good way to have transit networks going under bridges, except tunnels.  It is possible to conceal the tunnel so that it looks like a road is going under the bridge.  An example of this is nietseb

[Andreas Roth 607]

Date: 12/13/2005 2:00:23 AM Author: smoncrie

Andreas, I am not sure what you mean.  It is already possible to create very high bridges that are similar to the models you showed.  A bridge that is exactly like your models is possible (no curves or underpasses), but I am still not sure how many bridges of the same type can be added.

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Well, some people asked if it would be possible to add a bridge which uses exactly this model. It would be up to Spocky about deciding if he wants to take the challenge and convert his model to network models; maybe your tutorial (once it's ready) could help to make the decision if it's worth the effort easier.

[r7d9 0]

i would just like to say those bridges look awesome, but is it just me or was it about a year or 2 ago were ppl saying that making new bridges was almost impossible, if thats true we've came a long way since then keep up the good work guys...

[twistie 3]

Date: 12/14/2005 4:27:05 AM
Author: r7d9
i would just like to say those bridges look awesome, but is it just me or was it about a year or 2 ago were ppl saying that making new bridges was almost impossible, if thats true we've came a long way since then keep up the good work guys...

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I think the development of the NAM really helped with this type of modding. It showed people that you could do things to change the automata and other things for mods.

[Shadow Assassin 336]

I'm not sure if you've already answered this, but could this concept be used to make diagonal bridges? I think it could have a similar concept to diagonal transit enabling, except adapted to any of the network tiles?

[jeronij 13]

Date: 12/14/2005 10:03:06 PM Author: Shadow_Assassin I'm not sure if you've already answered this, but could this concept be used to make diagonal bridges? I think it could have a similar concept to diagonal transit enabling, except adapted to any of the network tiles?

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Hey SA, you are right, it has been asked and answered in this thread .  Yes, it is posible, Maxis didn

[Shadow Assassin 336]

So, if I get it right, the pieces would be a lot harder to do, but it still would work, correct?

I think this'll be a project to try out, eh?

[jackel.22 3]

just..................................wow

 

cant wait till you guys get to double decker bridges. that will be something truely marvellous to see in a city.

[jackel.22 3]

on a side note if/when you make a doubledecker bridge it would go great with a kansai type airpost im currently building off one of my cities.

 

[toxicpiano 125]

Date: 12/15/2005 7:49:30 AM Author: Shadow_Assassin So, if I get it right, the pieces would be a lot harder to do, but it still would work, correct? I think this'll be a project to try out, eh?

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well in that case, somebody change the name of this thread to 'bridge development thread'!

[Anubis_ 0]

looks good, can't wait to see those DOUBLE deck bridges in-game though...

[aldara6166 109]

This is all looking great guys...especially the new custom bridges.

 

Now, let's all just give them some room to get their feet wet and then I'm sure we'll all see some great double deck bridges!

 

Great work guys... keep em coming...

[simoplis_mayor 3]

man oh man i cant wait for these to come out omg i love these the bridges in sc are dumb but these will make it a whloe lot better ten bunnie for you

[Micah 16]

Wow, that double decker bridge looks fantastic. It will look great in any CJ.

[mtbrocket 2]

Great bridges guys. I think Simtropolis is quite responsible for keeping SimCity 4 popular.

-Dan

[aaronperry 0]

Why not have a Bat that can fit over the oridignal ground highay so say an object that u can place over the top of the grd higway...

[realdimension 6]

Any release date for the jeronij's bridges ?

[jeronij 13]

Hello to all,

Christmas are gone. 2006 is here and it is time to go back to work . Smocrie and I decided to go for the first real Double Decker bridge. The choosen bridge is the Tsing Ma one in Honk Kong. I am sure this will be a really challenging one . I guess this one will need more work that all the previous ones together. But I also think it is well worth it.

 

So this is the SC4 Tsing Ma bridge in its firsts steps of development.

Only the highway lanes are textured.

 

 

 

 

 

I hope you like this bridge. The more I learn about it, the more I like it.

 

I would apreciate any help you could give us with the textures. Can someone point me ( or post them here) to some nice white or neutral concrete textures. I have some but I am not sure if they will fit right with this bridge. I also would love to see a close up on the bridge upper deck. I found hundreds of pics in the Google, but all of them were panoramical views. I have no idea o how the real deck looks like -

 

I

[vester_DK 477]

Nice to see you have started this.

At first glance there were something wrong, but could not set my finger on it. Then I start thinking in force and how to get them to the ground. (The way a civil engineer thinks.) You would not placed the bearing beams in the middle. That would introduce extra moment forces. The beams would be placed at the edge of the deck.

Did a search for pictures:






I found these pictures on this site:
City University of Hong Kong on the Tsing Ma Bridge.

I will try to find some more for you later.

[Bongoswimp 14]

That looks great jeronij. Good luck with the development.

 

But what about the singledecker bridges? Do you still work on them? I would love to know if they are going to be released once.

 

 

Cheers

Bongoswimp

[toxicpiano 125]

nice one j! looking forward to this.

[vester_DK 477]

The single deck bridge is going to be include in the NAM.

Have found this for you, jeronij:




I found these pictures on this site: caminos.udc.es .

I hope you like to do

[thatmonkeysim 8]

ooo i didnt follow this one but this is looking like its coming together nicely! but im just wondering [thought you might have said it before] are this bridges draggable?

and is it compatible with GLR?

[julieng 0]

Good idea and good luck !

[hamsterTK 93]

*dies* this bridge in simcity will look so freaking cool. On top of being the coolest bridge to be in the game, its also double decker to boot

[jeronij 13]

Hello to all,

 

VesterDk, thanks for the pics. I meant some closeups on the actual driving surface of the bridge, to see details such fences and lights. But those pics are quite useful too . Also, I did try to translate this: bearing beams but it seems I got a bad translator , because I dont understand it. Can you explain it with other words or with a pic ?

[Bongoswimp 14]

Thanks for the info jeronij. Can't wait for the next NAM-release then.

The bridge is awesome. Looks like a lot of work, but well done so far!

[choco1 4]

Wow, your first double-deck bridge is looking very nice! Although I have some suggestions. I think you should make the windows more transparent, so you can see the trains better, and so it shows off the fact that its a double decker more. And maybe even lower the train part down, because it doesn't really look big enough as it is.

The overall design look brilliant. Keep up this revolutionary work!

[Cjah 15]

OMG....

Your finest creation is this bridge!

 

I can't really say much more then I'm speachless...

[vester_DK 477]

Bearing beam: First I thought I had spelled it wrong, but no. Bearing....?.....


thinking


Load bearing beam means the beam (hope you understand beam or can translate it) is taking more than it's own weight, here it would be the traficload primarily and load from snow. The wind is taken/absorbed by the wind.

Well to show on a picture:

The red area is the beam for horizontal load (gravity loads). The blue is taking the wind load. This is actiting as a beam for the wind.
Well to say it short: It's not the wind there is the problem, but the gravity. But as you sayed it does exist in SC4.

I can see if you have the rails as in RL, you would not see the rails in the middle.

I haven't seen your request for pictures. Just could see there was something wrong with the construction of the bridge deck. It would not work in RL with the span the real bridge have.
I will have a look for some more pictures and post links to it.

EDIT: Pictures:
through a bus windshied
The Tsing Ma suspension bridge from cctv.com , /special/621/7/37069.html
a near by bridge: Ting Kau Bridge . The railing are probaly similar.
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