Rail Crossing Markings & Gates Not Correct in LHD

[ausa07 66]

I have recently decided to switch my game from RHD to LHD (as I live in a LHD country) and I have been running into a multitude of problems since then.  One issue I noticed is that the markings and gates at rail crossings are not where they should be (setup for RHD instead of LHD).  I have the LHD version of NAM 31.2 as well as the LHD version of Modular RR Crossing Props - Phase 1 by Jondor installed.  I also use Euro textures + Australian textures for NWM.  My question is... is this a issue with NAM or an issue with Jondor's RR crossing props or the game itself (I have the Steam version and force LHD using a command prompt...) and is there any fix?

 

Gates and/or markings are incorrect on the following crossings:

Road Crossings
All NWM crossings

[APSMS 1,893]

AFAIK, this is a game problem. I used to have my game in LHD (don't ask why, I don't know how it got that way). One thing that I noticed was that all the highway signs and rail crossings and stoplights were on the wrong side. This was before I knew about the NAM , so I doubt it can really be fixed easily. LHD support has always been a main goal of the NAM team. 

[wasso38 10]

and now that's the main reason why i hate LHD. and that's my first reason why i bought the american version of SC4.

[GeometryMath Algebra 614]

and now that's the main reason why i hate LHD. and that's my first reason why i bought the american version of SC4.

Can't you just switch the driving side by changing the language?

[ausa07 66]

On 30/12/2013 at 8:14 AM, GeometryMath Algebra said:

 

and now that's the main reason why i hate LHD. and that's my first reason why i bought the american version of SC4.

Can't you just switch the driving side by changing the language?

 

Yes you can.  Wasso38, you can read a good explanation of how to do this here   Or you could always change it using a

 I've only recently discovered that works with the Steam version (which is what I have now).

On 30/12/2013 at 7:08 AM, APSMS said:

AFAIK, this is a game problem. I used to have my game in LHD (don't ask why, I don't know how it got that way). One thing that I noticed was that all the highway signs and rail crossings and stoplights were on the wrong side. This was before I knew about the NAM , so I doubt it can really be fixed easily. LHD support has always been a main goal of the NAM team. 

That was my suspicion too.  I always used the Stoplight Replacement Mod by Mandelsoft (SRM ) but when I changed it to LHD I noticed that on Maxis AVE intersections all the signals

except the turning lane signals.  Unfortunately this hasn't been resolved yet.  I hope the NAM team does find some help for LHD support/development though... they already do enough and it's very much appreciated    At least in the meantime they have the community to help track the bugs through the pre-release of NAM 32.  So excited 

[AsimPika3172 1,155]

Few years later.... Comes here about road crossing rail with RHD only.... No LHD support.... Hmmm.... 

[rsc204 21,866]

On 31/12/2013 at 3:05 AM, ausa07 said:

That was my suspicion too.  I always used the Stoplight Replacement Mod by Mandelsoft (SRM ) but when I changed it to LHD I noticed that on Maxis AVE intersections all the signals

This is a 13 year old thread and to no one's surprise the information is well out of date.

LHD support in NAM is not complete, but there are a number of factors that need consideration. For LHD to work as intended, three different components need correct LHD variants, Textures, Paths and T21s.

Anything texture related (stoplines etc), probably comes from the NAM, to my knowledge where LHD is possible, all rail crossings should have LHD variants. There are some caveats here, for example if you install a mod like my TGN, if a texture replacement also replaces the same crossings, it too will need to support and be setup for LHD use. But it should be noted that it's not always possible to have the stop lines in the right place, because certain textures are re-used in multiple configurations (Rotated or Mirrored), which in some cases means that even for RHD users, the stop lines won't be correct in all instances either. This problem especially affects OWR crossings, where the game's 'Tidal Flow' system, doesn't really allow us to differentiate between the two possible directions of traffic.

Pathing is probably the simplest component of all this and generally speaking LHD support is pretty complete, if you notice rail automata disappearing consistently at a crossing, that's a sure sign the paths are not correct though.

T21s are kind of like a 1x1 Lot, you can design a bunch of Props (models) that will be placed onto a transport network, this is how we get crossing barriers, lights, catenaries and just general decoration. Specifically for Rail crossings, Jondor's set is for me a must have, since it expands the basic NAM setups, supports LHD and generally looks way nicer, with customisation options too. However as of this moment, there is not a complete set of LHD crossings anywhere I know of, the OxD and DxD setups being the major omission. These aren't necessarily perfect in RHD either, since it's been an area that was mostly ignored by modders. Given the combination of the base Networks, SAM, NWM and RHW crossings and a handful of more unique pieces, added with the complexity of the T21 settings, it's not a simple job to fix even though I have it in my todo list and have made some progress in this direction.

I've explained this in more detail in the following guide:

In addition to explaining how to make the change and links to some useful mods to use with it.

On 31/12/2013 at 3:05 AM, ausa07 said:

I always used the Stoplight Replacement Mod by Mandelsoft (SRM ) but when I changed it to LHD I noticed that on Maxis AVE intersections all the signals except the turning lane signals.  Unfortunately this hasn't been resolved yet.  I hope the NAM team does find some help for LHD support/development though...

So for example, this is just another case where compatibility fell through a gap, NAM doesn't support LHD configurations for stop lights, so you need SRM. But, SRM has some bugged setups like this that are ultimately the root cause of why they still don't correctly appear. There is no game limitation going on here, I have released an expansion for SRM to cover mostly the newer NAM FTL and QuickTurn setups. I did some bug fixing whilst there, but there remains quite a bit of work I'd like to do there also.

I think in conclusion, it's fair to say LHD support is not and probably never will be perfect, but I decided to stick with and improve things and for most users it's fine to use.

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