Poll: Will you buy Simcity 2013?

[nats 99]

Will you buy the new game, choose the poll answer that best answers your view on the matter and if you wish to explain more please do so below.

[nhgriffith 179]

I'm getting the basic "Limited" edition. I already have it pre-ordered.

I think the Deluxe Edition content is pricey, and I'm not sure whether I'll ever get it. However... I'm really glad that the same content is available as a purchase later for essentially the same price as it'd cost you if it bought the Deluxe edition.

[sdkby 8]

I wanted to buy Deluxe edition but I was hoping that the game will have normal single player without "always online" requirement.

 

So, my current decision is to not buy it and continue to play Simcity 4 when I wants to play with city simulation.

[Sunfighter 186]

Not the Simcity I wanted, but a decent enough looking game.

 

I wont pay 60 bucks for it, but I will pick it up at 39.99.... or 49.99 if the long term reviews are positive and/or the maxis team delivers on comments to eventually increase map sizes, provide better city design tools, etc etc...

 

Curious to see how well the glassbox engine simulates on a full 16 map region.

[Coastercraze 1]

I've went ahead and picked up the Limited Edition pre-order on Amazon (physical DVD with the $20 Amazon voucher). Seems Origin also has a $20 off one purchase in their store for the pre-order as well.

[AkemiAzula 280]

I initially pre-ordered back last year as soon as the news came out re: the game. Then I heard all the bad press and cancelled. Then recently I pre-ordered again, the deluxe edition. I will outline my rationale below:

 

1; as mentioned by the op, it isn't every day a new SC comes out. I had almost completely given up any hope of a fifth installment, and thought I'd be consigned to playing 4 for the rest of my life. And while 4 was a game that outlasted the rest and proved itself over time, it was decidedly dated in various ways

 

2; I too was impressed by Ocean's enthusiasm, and felt he was committed to the game. It is indeed nice to see people who really believe in a thing these days.

 

3; I had downloaded Cities XL last year and been thoroughly dissapointed by it

 

4; I don't buy any other games, so the price wasn't as much of an issue as for those who buy games regularly

 

5; GlassBox developed in my mind simultaneously with Mr Quigley although I always referred to it as 'resource transaction system'. At any rate when I found out the same idea I had been thinking about since I first played 4 was also being thought about seriously by a big game company, and to top it off Maxis was said company, who had brought us Simcity 2000, 4 etc, it was great to think my idea wasn't 'ahead of its time'. I had envisioned pretty much exactly what GB is in my head, but always felt computers wouldn't be powerful enough for it for years. So I am really enthusiastic about GB as it is pretty much exactly what I had envisioned 5 to be based on. Real simulation, real actions and consequences. Traffic jams that prevent emergency vehicles getting to fires. That was what, for me, clinched it.

 

and 6; Despite the huge dissapointments such as 'greenspace', preformed regional infrastructure and limited playing area (I'm a fan of sprawl in the virtual world although I hate it in reality) I still think GB makes it a worthwhile game. And, who knows, maybe Maxis will improve it with time. One can but hope.

[London-b 90]

Nope, I'm getting it as a gift tho (comes out near my Bday). 

[Damoj2017 1]

I am so sick of people carrying on about DRM most losers out thier dont even now what it is

[Zpike 79]

SimCity does not use DRM. They require a connection to their servers where you must logon and have an account. They have no need of DRM as they can control your use of their software via a unique GUID tied to your account.

Just saying...

Announcing you won't buy any game that requires a server is like saying you aren't going to play computer games anymore. Software companies would be really ignorant not to take advantage of a server connection that manages their product. Servers are cheap and internet connections are almost ubiquitous these days while piracy is rampant for games that don’t use online piracy protections. Many software packages already require an online connection and I expect that most if not all future releases will require it. The added benefit of being able to update your product when the customer logs in to your system is just sauce for the goose.

[Hoipus 292]

How do you feel about the possibility of the game becoming unplayable when it's decided that the game isn't worth hosting servers for anymore? Not trying to attack, I just want to hear your thoughts.

[nats 99]

I think I set up a rather fair poll with all options mentioned and the DRM (or whatever people want to call it) is definitely an important factor that affects the purchasing decision for this game so it is one of the options to choose. Thats all there is to it - no argument or discussion is required or desired about DRM cheers.

[flyer2359 92]

Already pre-ordered the basic version.  The limited is pretty pointless.

 

This poll looks a lot better than some of the ones posted a few months ago, that's for sure.  There was an older poll where only about 30-35% of the people said they were going to get it.  Then again, there aren't that many votes in yet so I might be eating my own words later lol.

[nats 99]

Already pre-ordered the basic version.  The limited is pretty pointless.

 

This poll looks a lot better than some of the ones posted a few months ago, that's for sure.  There was an older poll where only about 30-35% of the people said they were going to get it.  Then again, there aren't that many votes in yet so I might be eating my own words later lol.

I see the limited and basic versions being the same by the way in terms of this poll, I have only distinguished the deluxe as being separate. I didnt even know there was a basic version (as opposed to limited) until a day ago.

 

I actually like the sound of the limited version if only because my little 6 year old would probably love it. I could get it for that alone. I havent actually seen anywhere so far where the basic version is actually cheaper than the limited one so from that point of view I would say getting the basic version is pointless when you can get the Heroes addon for no more money if you get the limited version. It may be different in the US though, I am only speaking from my knowledge of UK shops and online stores.

 

I am glad to see that buying after reading the reviews and forums is gaining ground! We have some sensible people here then!

[flyer2359 92]

Already pre-ordered the basic version.  The limited is pretty pointless.

 

This poll looks a lot better than some of the ones posted a few months ago, that's for sure.  There was an older poll where only about 30-35% of the people said they were going to get it.  Then again, there aren't that many votes in yet so I might be eating my own words later lol.

I see the limited and basic versions being the same by the way in terms of this poll, I have only distinguished the deluxe as being separate. I didnt even know there was a basic version (as opposed to limited) until a day ago.

 

I actually like the sound of the limited version if only because my little 6 year old would probably love it. I could get it for that alone. I havent actually seen anywhere so far where the basic version is actually cheaper than the limited one so from that point of view I would say getting the basic version is pointless when you can get the Heroes addon for no more money if you get the limited version. It may be different in the US though, I am only speaking from my knowledge of UK shops and online stores.

 

I am glad to see that buying after reading the reviews and forums is gaining ground! We have some sensible people here then!

Oops.  I should've said "Deluxe" version lol.  Limited is the version being sold in stores.

[Spatzimaus 77]

I actually like the sound of the limited version if only because my little 6 year old would probably love it. I could get it for that alone. I havent actually seen anywhere so far where the basic version is actually cheaper than the limited one so from that point of view I would say getting the basic version is pointless when you can get the Heroes addon for no more money if you get the limited version. It may be different in the US though, I am only speaking from my knowledge of UK shops and online stores.

 

I have little interest in the hero/villain bits, but there's a simpler reason I bought the Limited: I haven't seen anywhere you can pre-order the basic version, and pre-ordering gets you cash.  On Origin, you get a $20 credit towards another game (but you have to redeem it within the next two weeks), while if you buy it from Amazon, you get a $20 credit towards most things Amazon sells, with no expiration.  So if the Limited is $60, and the credit is $20, the basic version would have to be $40 or less for it to be worth waiting on.

[SAGGG 47]

Hello. I've preordered the Basic Version. I'm pretty sure EA/Maxis will allow city sizes to increase and add other things to the newest Simcity, based on user's concerns because they've putting a lot into their game, and it doesn't make any sense for them to ignore their most ardent fans. I'm willing to give this game a chance.

[InvaderNat 275]

Hell No! I'd sooner buy The Sims 3: Katy Perry's Sweet Treats than this horrible mockery of a classic series. lol.

http://www.ea.com/the-sims-3-kp-sweet-treats

 

I can't believe any serious Simcity fan would even consider buying this new game. In fact I'm going to buy Simcity 4 Deluxe on the release date instead (I only have RH).

[Zpike 79]

How do you feel about the possibility of the game becoming unplayable when it's decided that the game isn't worth hosting servers for anymore? Not trying to attack, I just want to hear your thoughts.

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I'm actually not that concerned at all about it.  If they ever decided to shut down the servers it would be because they don't have enough prople playing to justify the expense.  If that's the case then I most likely will not even care as I won't be playing.

 

As long as they have people playing there will be money to be made supporting the servers.

[Yeth 10]

Voted no, won't ever buy a game with that kind of DRM (I've cancelled my Assassin's Creed II preorder when it was revealed that it will require constant connection). And thanks to all of you for explaining the flaws of the game. DRM internet connection requirement, saves in cloud, small tiles, The Sims type of game. I heard about new SimCity a few months ago, and was eagerly waiting for it. Even wanted to preorder it today, until I found this page.. Now I know that this isn't a game for me. Thanks!

[Spatzimaus 77]

How do you feel about the possibility of the game becoming unplayable when it's decided that the game isn't worth hosting servers for anymore?

 

Can you name any games that's happened to?  I mean, any games you'd actually still want to play at the time they shut the servers off?

 

First of all, the servers we're talking about for this are not the same sort you need for an MMO.  These servers will at the very least handle basic bookkeeping, like keeping track of current market prices; not the sort of thing that requires a huge load.  There have been statements that the SimCity servers will handle part of the computational load, but if that's true then the need for them will naturally decrease over time (as PC capabilities continue to increase).  And given that your cities can play for several minutes without a connection, they clearly can't depend THAT much on the servers to do the core workload.  This means that it might be a decade before they decide to shut off the servers (if SC4's longevity is any indication), and that's assuming that they can't integrate future titles into the same database.

 

Second, developers of most non-MMO games I know that have shut off servers (or whose parent company has gone bankrupt) will release one final patch that unlocks any DRM or online requirement.  If EA ever decides to stop hosting a central server for SimCity, then all they'd need to do is give us one final patch that hard-sets all commodity prices and disables the online component.  After all, what would they gain by NOT doing this?  Why alienate your long-time customers for no gain, when a trivial amount of work will allow them to continue enjoying your product (albeit in a reduced manner)?  Even if you absolutely hate EA and have convinced yourself that they're the devil incarnate, can you really believe that they'd do something that'd cost them customers for no actual gain?

 

So no, I don't think the game will become unplayable, or at least not until long after we all stop caring about it.

[AnathemaDevice 35]

If EA ever decides to stop hosting a central server for SimCity, then all they'd need to do is give us one final patch that hard-sets all commodity prices and disables the online component.

 

IF EA ever disables the online requirement then, and only then,  I will buy the game. Until that happens I will continue to play SC4 and other offline games. As they have claimed all along that offline is not possible with this game, I'm not holding my breath.

 

 

After all, what would they gain by NOT doing this?

 

Hmmm, let me see, oh yes, they will expect you to buy their latest offering.

[semo 14]

I pre-ordered from Amazon but am not sure if I'm going to cancel it.  Unlike some others, my issue with the game is that I have a low-end laptop (I don't play a lot of computer games, just SC4 and The Sims 3 occasionally).  So my laptop isn't powerful enough to run the game smoothly (as I found out during both beta tests).  So I would have to upgrade my desktop or build a new one.  And I'm not sure I want to make all of that investment just to play this game.

[CaptCity 4,752]

Let's direct comments toward the poll and not at each other - as per site rules.

[atsummerlin53 47]

Right now I have too much fun with SC4 and all of the spectacular plug-ins to even attempt to play the 2013 edition. Since MODing and BATing are apparently much more difficult to do with the new game, I'm sure I'll be in a protracted wait-and-see mode for the new game. Since I love the current ability to do the mega-projects (like airports and unique buildings like stadia and university complexes) by myself, I'm not a huge fan of the requirement for cooperation to do some of those things. I understand their motivation for that capability, and I respect it, but I just like the fact that I can do those things at my own pace and in my own way. Of course, I am heavily dependent on the munificence of all those wonderful people who put these BATs and MODs on the website to download, and they all do such wonderful jobs. So, for right now it's 'thanks, but no thanks,' when it comes to SC2013.

[Hoipus 292]

You can still build those mega projects in solo regions.

[arcology 224]

How do you feel about the possibility of the game becoming unplayable when it's decided that the game isn't worth hosting servers for anymore?

 

Can you name any games that's happened to?  I mean, any games you'd actually still want to play at the time they shut the servers off?

 

First of all, the servers we're talking about for this are not the same sort you need for an MMO.  These servers will at the very least handle basic bookkeeping, like keeping track of current market prices; not the sort of thing that requires a huge load.  There have been statements that the SimCity servers will handle part of the computational load, but if that's true then the need for them will naturally decrease over time (as PC capabilities continue to increase).  And given that your cities can play for several minutes without a connection, they clearly can't depend THAT much on the servers to do the core workload.  This means that it might be a decade before they decide to shut off the servers (if SC4's longevity is any indication), and that's assuming that they can't integrate future titles into the same database.

 

Second, developers of most non-MMO games I know that have shut off servers (or whose parent company has gone bankrupt) will release one final patch that unlocks any DRM or online requirement.  If EA ever decides to stop hosting a central server for SimCity, then all they'd need to do is give us one final patch that hard-sets all commodity prices and disables the online component.  After all, what would they gain by NOT doing this?  Why alienate your long-time customers for no gain, when a trivial amount of work will allow them to continue enjoying your product (albeit in a reduced manner)?  Even if you absolutely hate EA and have convinced yourself that they're the devil incarnate, can you really believe that they'd do something that'd cost them customers for no actual gain?

 

So no, I don't think the game will become unplayable, or at least not until long after we all stop caring about it.

 

That is what frustrates me the most about this.  I still play games from over 15+ years ago.  No game, that people have ever enjoyed, is "unplayable".

 

It all comes down to a choice that these publishers have - whether or not to let all of that creativity go down the drain or support it, themselves. 

 

If they do ever pull the plug on the servers, like they have, without giving any kind of patch or ability to run a game offline, they themselves are setting the future for people not wanting to put more money into games that they can't "own" outright.   

[mrbisonm 1,620]

Depending of what my "guineepigs" will say about the game a few months after, I might buy it, probably not, ' cause I am way to confident that SC4 will top Simcity 2013 still for a few years and I got too many projects for it. But I am sure that it will end up just like Simsocieties, which I bought, played one week and then put it up as a dust collector.

 

So, I'll wait and see what you (the buyers) are going to say after several months.

 

mrb

[bergerrunner 41]

I'll be honest, I was a definite "no" before, during, and a little bit after beta 1 but the game has really grown on me. It looks really in depth, now if only they could expand that out a little further. Ultimately though my computer won't run it (which is my fault of course) so the price tag for me is whatever a new graphics card costs plus sim city