hkabat-forum-threads Hong Kong / Asia BAT team

[HONG KONG 74]

@bixel:

You build a really very large thing that its time needs.

But, I am already curious.

 

@paulvmonfort:

I am also for original reproductions. But, to divide the lots would be user friendly.

For example as in the picture.

In addition I would adapt the buildings on a flat level and ignore the actual gradient.

[paulvmontfort 617]

well, at first i was thinking of making each tower on a different lot, but they fit together perfect. As for the gradient, i'll leave it in for now, maybe i'll make 2 versions, 1 with the gradient and 1 with the gradient disapearing underground so you don't see it

[Hordijk 18]

paulvmontfort: Just wanted to say this I saw your sig and it has not a link but only the adress now..

if you copy this into your signature your sig will contain the link to this tread and the name of the tread hope you like it:

 

 

<A href=https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/view.asp?forumID=42&topicID=68642>Hong Kong BAT team</A>

[paulvmontfort 617]

Date: 9/24/2005 4:23:50 PM Author: Hordijk

paulvmontfort: Just wanted to say this I saw your sig and it has not a link but only the adress now..

if you copy this into your signature your sig will contain the link to this tread and the name of the tread hope you like it:

&lt;A href='https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/view.asp?forumID=42&amp;topicID=68642'&gt;Hong Kong BAT team&lt;/A&gt;

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Thanks Hordijk.

 

BTW the Lippo Centre is rendering again, there were some minor window frame issues and now the towers will fit on a smaller lot, after that i have to see how to make it a rci plop. because the lot is 7 tiles wide and growable lots can't be that big although the BSC team succeeded in doing it.

[jp walker 1]

this complex is amazing. i love HONG KONG buildings they have the best there id love to go
paulvmontfort i loved your lippo bat too! here some wallpapers /inspiration pictures and would you consider Jardine house or 2 international finance you can do it

[jstriker 0]

yay! good job, keep up the good work. im a HKer and love HK buildings. It'd be great if someone would start making buildings such as the Legco Building, governor house or the Landmark.

[HONG KONG 74]

 

@jp walker

Welcome to the Hong Kong BAT thread!

The Jardine house is also on my desire list and ifc naturally also.

There are however many interesting buildings in HK for the designers.

By the way, please reduce your pictures on 600x800.  Thanks!

 

     

[paulvmontfort 617]

well, we still seek some BATters willing to help. We're only with the 2 of us: Bixel and me.

 

Here's a temporarely list of buildings to be done:

 

-Finishing Pacific Place

-Central Plaza

-2IFC

-Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank

-Tokyo City Hall (No Hong Kong building)

-The Center

 

Finished Buildings:

-Lippo Centre (on STEX, Expect version 2 soon)

-Harbourside (still in rendering phase) 

[HONG KONG 74]

And naturally already finished:

                                                                      

Liberte Tower:                       www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=13350

Sham Wan Towers:                www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=13403

HK MediumRes Tower Pack1:  www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=13520

HK MediumRes Tower Pack2:  www.simtropolis.com/stex/details.cfm?id=13595

 

of bixel

[ramvid01 0]

i would love to help, but i tend to get lazi when it comes to modeling things, and end up not finishing. I must say those are some great pics of Hong Kong, and you guys are doing a great job on the buildings. Kepp up the good work.

[paulvmontfort 617]

The Lippo Centre v2 is now in the STEX.

So ramvid01: I don't need your help anymore with modding the files, I figured out how to do it myself. BTW, If you want, we would like it if you come to our team, doesn't matter if you don't finish the BATs, as long as you start them, someone else could finish them

[Hordijk 18]

Date: 9/24/2005 5:04:16 PM Author: paulvmontfort

Date: 9/24/2005 4:23:50 PM Author: Hordijk

paulvmontfort: Just wanted to say this I saw your sig and it has not a link but only the adress now..

if you copy this into your signature your sig will contain the link to this tread and the name of the tread hope you like it:

&amp;lt;A href='https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/view.asp?forumID=42&amp;amp;topicID=68642'&amp;gt;Hong Kong BAT team&amp;lt;/A&amp;gt;

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Thanks Hordijk.

BTW the Lippo Centre is rendering again, there were some minor window frame issues and now the towers will fit on a smaller lot, after that i have to see how to make it a rci plop. because the lot is 7 tiles wide and growable lots can't be that big although the BSC team succeeded in doing it.

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Looks much better amigo keep up the good work!!..

[paulvmontfort 617]

i made this nice video of the building:

 

http://paul.vanmontfort.net/scene.avi

[bixel 1,228]

Hey everybody! Well I got some news on the Harborside...it turns out that when I redid the HugeCameraRig scene the units used were not the same as those used in the Harbourside. So when merged the building was teeny tiny. Then I re-scaled it. I didn't properly check the measurements and it turns out I made it 200% way bigger than it should have been...hence the memory error.

 

So..I had to make some real gruling adjustments to both the model and the camera rig...I started a test render (just started it) and it was moving pretty smoothly and about ten times quicker than that mammoth 16 hour render that failed.

 

I redid some night lights becuase they were not properly randomized and now I am going to go ahead and render this puppy. I will post some screens and find out from you if I should put in some showy night lights in like spots and omnis. I gotta warn you though placing in those lights will prolly roll back this project another 3 days.

[Hordijk 18]

Date: 9/25/2005 7:49:40 AM Author: paulvmontfort

i made this nice video of the building:

http://paul.vanmontfort.net/scene.avi

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lol... that video of the building is nice!!..

[DaViru- 2]

w00t! I can't wait for the 2IFC, Definate download for me.

[paulvmontfort 617]

@ Bixel: Great news, good to hear that the building can be rendered.

@ DaViru$: You'll have to wait a bit longer, maybe untill 2006 before we see the 2IFC unless someone else pops up and makes it. I'm still working on the pacific place

 

@ All: Sorry, but the updates aren't that frequent anymore. I can't work on it each day anymore because i have a busy week with school

[Fantail 0]

Great work so far.

Some ideas, how bout 1 IFC, 3 Pacific Place, The Summit, and Nina Tower. Just some suggestions.

[paulvmontfort 617]

Date: 9/26/2005 5:19:34 PM Author: Fantail Great work so far. Some ideas, how bout 1 IFC, 3 Pacific Place, The Summit, and Nina Tower. Just some suggestions.

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Maybe you didn't notice, but i'm working on Pacific Place. Iand if you didn't know: Pacific Place is a complex which includes the Conrad international Hotel, Shangri la Hotel, 3 Pacific Place and the J.W. Marriot Hotel. And 1IFC is just a smaller version of 2IFC which is already on the list.

 

P.S. we're overloaded with commercial requests. Please make some residential request too, if make a request at all. Bixel does the residentials and i the commercials.

[bixel 1,228]

I had a couple errors...I'm redoing much of the arrays to intances and that has lowerd the files size from 59meg to 49meg. Soo good news on efficiency. I'll try to render now and see whats up.

{Edit:} New scaling done, new arrays done, down to 39megs...Had some render errors but mostly with new HugeCamRig setup I had...redid that too...and it didn't help. Doing render with normal default CameraRig..it seems to be going ok if not realllllllly slow. So far no errors, still not finished rendering.

[paulvmontfort 617]

another update:

The swimming pool on the conrad hotel:

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//conradhotel8.JPG align=baseline>

[bixel 1,228]

Hey...looks like I'll have to send you the file, my computer just cant handle the render. I have to move to a new house, but I can send you the file after I get my computer installed at the new location. Greater bandwidth there.

[ZeramZeram 2]

Date: 9/24/2005 6:54:47 PM Author: paulvmontfort

well, we still seek some BATters willing to help. We're only with the 2 of us: Bixel and me.

Here's a temporarely list of buildings to be done:

-Finishing Pacific Place

-Central Plaza

-2IFC

-Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank

-Tokyo City Hall (No Hong Kong building)

-The Center

Finished Buildings:

-Lippo Centre (on STEX, Expect version 2 soon)

-Harbourside (still in rendering phase)

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You guys would make my universe if you made the Tokyo Metropolitan Center. There is a really mediocre old BAT of it somewhere but it doesn't do justice to the building at all. What would be awesome is if you could transit enable it properly. The real building interacts with the elevated avenue in front in a very nice way.

 

I think the building should be a reward for a region with 2,000,000 sims or more, and should boost demand. I have been thinking about it for a long time but don't have time to BAT right now. I have lots of pictures if you want 'em.

[T Wrecks 10,210]

Hello bixel,

I'm writing this because of the Sham Wan Towers you BATted. As much as I like the building, the stats are really way off. Have a look at this picture someone at another SC4 forum posted. You can see that the pollution radius is relatively small, but that the pollution intensity (see the colours) rivals 2 coal power plants plus a landfill! (What you don't see in the pic but in the Reader is that the garbage output of the BAT is about 300 - 350 times higher than it should be)

This leads to such a decrease in attractivity that a) the houses around are abandoned due to excessive pollution and b) the building itself is inhabited by no more than 3000 of 6300 (i.e. less than 50%), so that it is half-deserted as well and looks black in game.

You could compare this effect to a fire station that has so high flammability stats that it actually attracts fires rather than helping to fight them.

Please don't trust the Plugin Manager when it comes to adjusting stats. It suggests totally screwed values. The so-called SC4 Tool by simrolle and Andreas Roth is a far better reference; I encourage you to use it instead, and of course, you could always ask me; I would be glad to help you out. Your BATs are so beautiful that it would be a shame if their usability would be decreased by inappropriate stats.

Later today, when I'm back from work, I'm going to attach a tweaked sc4desc file with stats that match those of in-game buildings. It would be really cool if you could make an update and include this modified desc with your building.

[paulvmontfort 617]

I got a PM today. Someone's willing to make a website for us, but i think it's a bit early for that. Nevertheless, a great idea also. What do you think?

 

Anyway, the detailes stuff is pretty anoying to make and with unsufficiant view on the pictures it's pretty hard. Maybe someone has any?

 

here's the update:

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//conradhotel9JPG.JPG align=baseline>

[HONG KONG 74]

A webside is nice, but for what?  Better than with Simtropolis is hardly possible.

Your update is outstanding!

Enclosed still another better picture.

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//Pool_to_Paulvmontfort.jpg align=baseline>

 

[bixel 1,228]

T Wrecks:

Yikes!!! I never really noticed that. I have two Sham Wan Towers in my largest city 670,000 and they are not dilipitated, but I have another two in a neighboring city of 120,000 and one is abandoned and 1 diliptate, solving the pollution issue could make things a lot better, wow thanks.

Go ahead and put the attached file here, I'm still going to work on streamlining the Harbourside, but I am in the middle of a move. When Harbourside is released I'll include your modified Sham Wan Tower desc. file. with a big how to and explanation and credits to your work. If I get the Harbourside rendered, I'll send you the whole thing and you can test it and make necessary changes to the desc.

[bixel 1,228]

Hello everybody, while the Harbourside is sitting ready for render, I decided to start my next project.

WONG TAI SIN TEMPLE!!!

 

whoo!

I have some more pics, but I really need a nice view from the air of the whole grounds and extra builings, some views of the park and other adjacent builings. The Temple constists of several old skool chinese buildings that have blue roofs and you can kinda see them in the pictures. If anybody can help me with some photos or textures that would be great.

[HONG KONG 74]

Can you use a map of the entire plant? No matter, here!

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//tempmap.jpeg align=baseline>

 

[paulvmontfort 617]

Interesting project you have there bixel. I just love the old Asian architecture.

anyway, here's a pic of the conrad how it'll look ingame:

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//conrad10.jpg align=baseline>