High Density High-Tech

[Jeebuschrist 0]

High density residential- trivial. High density commercial- fairly easy too. But I've never been able to get high density high tech. How do I get it? I really don't like having to use up 1/4 of land space for I$$$.

  Edited May 20, 2012 by Jeebuschrist  

[uvapwns 1]

Me too. I have the highest demand for high tech industry, and the zones for it, but it doesn't get any bigger.

[Gurning_Chimp 398]

Pollution needs to be nearly non-existent and the area needs to be powered and watered.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Pollution needs to be nearly non-existent and the area needs to be powered and watered.

And have the same general perqs as R$$$ areas.

[rweather5 22]

Build industrial zones near airports, seaports, railways, etc. Also, build trees around the area and make sure you have good mass transit. Check your desirability map to see where to put your zones.

[T Wrecks 10,209]

What are we talking about here anyway? Do you mean that no high-tech industry whatsoever grows when you zone high-density industrial areas, or do you mean that those high-tech facilities that do grow don't employ very many Sims?

I recommend downloading SC4Tool - it contains a database of all Maxis buildings (with images) sorted by category so you can check which are the biggest I-HT facilities and if you have already grown them or not. If you have already grown them but are dissatisfied with the number of jobs they offer, you could try the Industrial Jobs Quadrupler mod by toroca. If you find out that you cannot gtow the biggest facilities for some reason, it may be helpful to post some screenshots of your cities and give some information about them so people can help you to find the source of the problem.

[Jeebuschrist 0]

I don't get any high-tech industry at all even though I've zoned for it, I've got lots of demand, and desirability is high.

[zahrul3 471]

You forgot water I think

[Jeebuschrist 0]

It's watered. I've already got medium-density hi-tech, just not high-density.

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Well, you cannot "zone for high-tech industry". You can zone for different densities, but the type of industry that will grow there is determined by demand and desirability. I suppose you mean that you do not get any high-tech industry to grow on high-density zones, right? Although, in post #7 you say that you don't get any high-tech industry at all... it's hard to understand precisely what the problem actually is.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Unless you have downloaded a few more, there are not many high-tech, high-density industries. Remember, these will never be tall buildings, but they could be large area buildings. A high-tech fully automated plant may employ only R$$ engineers and perhaps one R$$$ manager. There can also be several R$ people doing shipping, sweeping, etc.

Just what are you expecting from an I-HT$$$ plant?

[Supertask 29]

I think Jeebus is having the same problem I am, not that high-tech doesn't develop on high-density zones (for me it does, plenty of it) but that you never see high-density high tech. I check to see if any of my high-tech is high-density by dragging the medium density zone tool over it and seeing if it highlights red (showing it can't exist in medium density), but it never does. I have plenty of high density everything else (residential, commercial, dirty and manufacturing...). My high-tech has little pollution (just road pollution), short freight trips, low crime and I've placed parks.

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

^ Again, friend, do not try to get all $$$ everything in the game. It is a fatal trap, and you will eventually have more trouble than it is worth as buildings start to abandon. You can look at all buildings in the SC4Tool, and you will find there are not many IHT$$$. And remember "The higher, the fewer". There is always a pyramid of wealth types with most of it $ holding up the rest.

[Supertask 29]

I agree and I'm not trying to get all $$$, I have plenty of high density $ and $$ structures as well. I just think its odd that having lots of high density everything else, I have no high density high tech at all.

[Supertask 29]

After looking at some other forums, I'm pretty close to concluding exclusively high density high tech doesn't exist. People point to large High tech buildings such as Venkatrama Pharmaceuticals, Tubing Facility, Hsu Accelarators and Spline Testing as examples of high density high tech, but these all develop in medium density just fine. It's odd though because there's a passage in the manual that implies there is high density high tech.

[T Wrecks 10,209]

There is no Maxis high-tech lot that's exclusively high-density. I've browsed through the Maxis I-HT lots, and all of them were set to grow on medium AND on high-density zones. However, this doesn't explain why a building that grew on a high-density zone would disappear when you zone medium density over it.

[Ro-Bo 183]

Isn't the I-HT only appear when your education is >120? Maybe that is why you don't get I-HT in the city.

[Supertask 29]

There is no Maxis high-tech lot that's exclusively high-density. I've browsed through the Maxis I-HT lots, and all of them were set to grow on medium AND on high-density zones. However, this doesn't explain why a building that grew on a high-density zone would disappear when you zone medium density over it.

Ahh I see thanks for the confirmation. And none of my HT buildings ever did disappear when I zoned medium over them, thats how I knew they were not (exclusively) high density.

[HazelSaturn007 0]

If you have big city and map is almost full, only you can do is to remove those old factories by rezoning them but it will cause residental abondoment and loss of income. I wouldn't prefer to remove those factories. But if you have small cities, you can build hightech factories but only 1, 2 or 3 zones at different distances, otherwise the pollution will rise and your factories will downgraded to those old ones. Also put plenty of trees around 1 particular zone, and should keep distance of few block between each zone, you can use those zone by making commercial buildings, don't zone residental or they'll leave..

[47ply 1,100]

don't forget to lower the TAXES down to almost 0 then start to raise them as they fill in. they also like parks and trees good luck

[thirstydeer 4]

Is there a minimum population requirement for I-HT to appear?  My population right now is around 10,000.

 

My current demand for I-HT (on my demand graph) is just over 2000.  Is there a minimum level of demand for it to start to appear?

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Not really.  The requirements are the same as for CO$$$: lots of parks/plazas, no pollution, high EQ, etc.

[thirstydeer 4]

And in terms of the demand graph, what is typically the magic number (the demand) before the buildings start to pop up?

[Indiana Joe 1,750]

FYI high tech industrial doesn't get that big.  Unless you have some custom buildings, or especially the CAM, the largest high tech buildings don't have much more than 100 jobs.

 

They should show up with any significant amount of demand, as long as the desirability conditions are met, and there's room for them to grow (at least 6x6 lots).

[thirstydeer 4]

... and there's room for them to grow (at least 6x6 lots).

Ah that is important information I didn't know.  I have not given them that much room.  I was treating them like medium commercial - like strips alongside a busy road near residential.

 

And again what defines "significant demand"?  On the demand scale I'm just over the 2000 line is that a good enough demand to see the building or does it have to get closer to 4000?  Higher then 4000?

[Indiana Joe 1,750]

Anything over 2000 for sure, but demand isn't as cut-and-dried as it looks.  There are a lot of factors like desirability and demand caps.  In short, the demand graph isn't 100% reliable.  But for your purposes, yes, 2000 should be enough.