Skydome development thread - another kd5rax project!

[GaryGerbrandt 6]

Alrighty, here is the thread for the design and factfinding on the Skydome. I'll amalgamate my posts in the previous topic into this one.

 

Skydome will be kd5rax's newest BAT project after the Petronas are done.

[GaryGerbrandt 6]

 

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go here: http://groups.msn.com/MLBPowerHouse/torontobluejaysstadiums.msnw

 

and, a picture:

 

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EDIT: I'm a Squatter!!!

 

[Equinox 1,209]

I have a rather off-topic question ... is the roof of the skydome shown here automatic?

Like you press a button and the 'sunroof' closes? 

[DuskTrooper 314]

Id have to think it is automatic.  Otherwise, how many people would it take to drag that thing open??

 

BTW, Minuite Maid Park in Houston has a moving roof, too!

[MrCinatit 30]

the Skydome is one of my many favorite stadiums (Wrigley, Fenway, Ebbits, Polo Grounds, Shibe, Camden Yards, Crosley Field...as much as i hate to admit it, Yankee Stadium, and many others). it was made in a time when cookie cutter stadiums were the in-thing, and is still hailed as one of the modern wonders of the world.

good luck on this...i don't know if it will be possible, but will you have the roof retractable?

[vidioman 21]

The roog is automatic (just push a button!) and the BAT can't make animations, so it won't be able to open by itself.

 

-see? I can help with BAT too..

 

-vid

[L8Againnnn 1]

Yes the skydome roof closes with the push of a button, It is actually in 3 stages. The first stage is the round section facing east, it is the first stage to close as it swings around the upper bowl. The other 2 stages slide over after the first stage has closed. It takes approx 15 mins to close it. But, an interesting fact...if there is a 25% chance of rain, the first stage is closed automatically. Skydome uses doplar radar for roof closing decisions.

The last time I was there was summer of 1991, I used to have an awesom pic from the pitchers mound looking up at the CN Tower. What a view.

If this project were to work, it would have to be transit enabled. There are several lines of the CN Rail running underneath, and don't forget about the working hotel.

[kd5rax 82]

i think that it could be possible to have three different models, one with it fully opened and one fully closed, and a third in stage 2 of the closing.  that way it could be shown as closed, during most of the winter months, then open during the summer and spring, and occasionally have it in stage 2 closing.

 

Once the first model is made, it should not be hard at all to simply shut the roof off.

[MTLT_17 26]

Also the Skydome is home to the CFL. If you wants pics of this just ask.

[joerg 278]

Acctually im guessing that like kd5rax pointed out we could animate this. But it wouldnt be a smooth animation by anymeans. It would have to be like he pointed out trigered by the tiem of year or maybe time of day.  Perhaps the easiest would be time of day if you did this only one render would need night lighting perhaps have it closed during the day then in the evening open up and have it all lit up like the current ingame stadium at night with the rood fully retracted. This would mean cutting render times by nearly half. Then im guessing someone in the mod squad with some experience in the effect dir could tell the game to load a model based on the time of day.

[kd5rax 82]

ok, a question, is this how it unfolds?

first stage, each section tucked under another

second stage, the top section slides to the middle and the other two slide to the end.

third, the small one rotates 90 degrees to rest in its preset spot.

i think that the day closed and night open idea is absolutely brilliant joerg.  it would be a beautiful thing to see in the game. 

at around 5 pm, it could half open (or closed then open a little later if it is too much of a pain to render).  then at 6 it could fully open.  at around 10 it could close back up halfway, then at 12 close fully till the next day.  And during the winter it could be closed as well.

[GaryGerbrandt 6]

Also, when the Jays win, fireworks get launched inside the dome...

 

Thx so much, definitely nominating you for best BAT creation... You rule!!!

 

[GaryGerbrandt 6]

Go to ak-ak-adak's topic here:

 

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=49786&sessionID=36A49F2FA8014EC394509B3A366E284A

 

PS: My dad works downtown, I'll see if he can get some good shots with my digital camera.

 

[kd5rax 82]

yeah, i figured it out. i will start on some preliminary modeling tonight

[GaryGerbrandt 6]

Woo-hoo!

 

It's kinda cool... this could be the next PETRONAS!!!!

 

 

[ak-ak-adak 0]

Alright, here are some good architectural shots that I scanned from what I had about the skydome. I know u'll want to use these!!

By the way, the dimensions are metric, in meters

Note: I had to reduce the size of the pics, so if u need larger pics let me know & I'll compress & email them to u.

 

 

 

[6459978. 106]

Skydome! Excellent! I live in Toronto, and I was considering modelling the dome at some point. But I'm sure kd5rax will do a much better job!

 

Hurry up on the Petronas towers!

[kd5rax 82]

yeah, they are a too big, and will probably get wiped soon anyway, so just email them.  i sent a pm to you with my email adress, let me know if you got it.

[GaryGerbrandt 6]

 

Here is the first Toronto BAT project award. Congrats, kd!

 

 

 

[kd5rax 82]

sorry that this took so long, but here is the roof.

[Smurfer2 7]

Well, this will be the stadium that I've been waiting for. I can't wait to see this in its later stages.

[GaryGerbrandt 6]

Looks great!

 

10 ducks for you!

 

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[ak-ak-adak 0]

The scale looks to be as accurate as u can get with the BAT. Great start!

[kd5rax 82]

Ok, i will start working on this again once i finished with a few updates on the Petronas Project, but i think all is well with this so far.

[Morhavoc 166]

This looks an amazing project, if it is done well it will look amazing. Definately  . Can't wait to see the progress and the finished thing.

[kd5rax 82]

This is a very rough sketch of what it will look like.  Right nowthis is the overall shape, the only thing more than 70% completed is the dome.

I like to make a rough shape then gradually refine each part until the building is completed

[ak-ak-adak 0]

Fantastic work so far!
I hope the final rendering will not be a pain or a problem for u.

[vidioman 21]

Date:4/28/2004 11:27:26 AM
Author:bob3003

 

Here is the first Toronto BAT project award. Congrats, kd!

 

 

 

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This isn't the first BAT project- Simlooney made a few skyscrapers from Toronto and they are at the official exchange

kd- I looks cool! So far

-vid

[kd5rax 82]

Date:5/10/2004 7:54:20 PM
Author:ak-ak-adak

Fantastic work so far!
I hope the final rendering will not be a pain or a problem for u.

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judging from past rendering experiences, i will keep this as low-poly as possible.  The seats will add a lot to it though, as each one will have a minimum of 6-8 polys a piece.

[joerg 278]

Actually Kd5rax you could make each seat only 4 polys this is the method maxis used in the seol stadium and then i used it for the seats in mine after trying to figure out an efficient way to do them for along time i finnally just broke down and did it the maxis way and it looks quite good really.  Just make each seet a double sided plane.