Aaron Graham's BATs

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Taller doesn't mean harder..I'm certain that the quality Aaron comes out isn't "easy" to achieve

Well maybe taller is the wrong word. I mean a bigger project

[Mack The Finger 34]

I just wanted to throw in my two cents that I think Aaron has already proved he can do "bigger" or "taller" projects, just look at one of his eary works The Transportation building from NYC

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

This thread is open again, it's been four months!!!!!!

Worthington Apartments

Okay it's time to show my secret bat to you non SC4 devotion users. The Worthington Apartments is being rebated.

Here's an update on the Worthington Apartments, I have added the water tower and the details to the penthouse, I have to do back do to the ground floor and add more doors, ect.

  Edited September 10, 2012 by Aaron Graham  

[Toothless Stitch 2,901]

Huh, +4 Rep and no comment

First of all, great to have you back!

Like this one. A bit pity that you don't show as the front wall. Is it finished yet?

Looking forward to textured previews

[Ceafus 88 1,845]

Amazing work, just so awesome!!!!

[AlexandrosB13 184]

Wow is was like this makes me remember of something but in a way better look. Then i read that you rebated the apartments . Looks amazing so far

[art128 4,622]

Oh my, amazing. This building really looks cool !

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

skyscraper241- Thank you, I have worked on the other side of the building it was not ready to be seen on ST.

Frex_Ceafus- Thank you!!!

AlexandrosB13- Thank you!!!

art128- Thank you!!!

Worthington Apartments

Here's the small update of the Worthington Apartments, I have moved the water tower because Francis want me to put it in the center of the building. Francis also wanted me to change the cornice, as you can see the difference in the last update, I just did not change the second cornice from the top of the building yet.

Once I am happy with the first floor, I will move back to the top of the building and try to fix somethings, I know I need some more doors for the penthouse. One of the of other little roof access buildings will need a door and I will get back to that too. I think if I have finished that I can move on the the texturing of the new Worthington Apartments.

[Susaji 523]

Very Nice :D :D

[Jasoncw 11,941]

A billion times better.

[Gn_leugim 858]

welcome back and nice joob

[IL. 1,043]

WB.

& very nice BAT

  Edited September 21, 2012 by IL.  

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Hazani Pratama- Thank you!!!

Jasoncw- Thank you!!!

IL.- Thank you!!!

Gn_leugim- Thank you, I have always been here.

IL.- Thank you, I have always been here.

Worthington Apartments

Here's the model of the Worthington Apartments, it's looking good to me, Just need some more things and this model can be finished soon, if I keep working on it, I will be making 4 versions of this building so never again you have to worry about it looking like if the bricks were some other color.

South

West

East

North

Please Guys do not forget about my NYBT Thread update that I have posted today, I have helped kept the team a live.

  Edited September 22, 2012 by Aaron Graham  

[IL. 1,043]

Don't forget to make a roof garden, a big building like this, apparently for rich residents, should have a roof garden(at least pots), chairs and etc..

maybe some large wall publicities on that emtpy back wall.

[Francis90b 748]

Looking good!

Up until the early 1920's, roof and penthouses on NYC apartments were not generally used for residential purposes or for roof gardens, but rather, for laundry and storage.This happened even in luxury residential buildings.

With time, penthouses in older residential buildings were occasionally converted for residential uses, and roof gardens were sometimes built, but this might have happened or might not have happened.

Speaking about 876 Park avenue, it looks like having some plants on it's roof, which could be recreated or not.

A wall ad for this type of building is probably not a good idea.

Side and back walls of commercial and industrial buildings, and of hotels, were often painted for advertising purposes, but this was less common in residential buildings.Additionally, it's extremely unlikely to find ADs on buildings located on mostly-residential neighborhoods, like for example Upper East Side.

Something you might find from time to time is a banner, hanging from the wall, advertising apartments on the building.

This is usually found in newly built or newly renovated buildings, and on rental apartment buildings.

All things considered, i'd say it would be rather unlikely to be found on the type of building which is being BATed now.

  Edited September 22, 2012 by Francis90b  

[IL. 1,043]

I don't think that a real problem that it doesnt fir with the NY reality in 1920, consider it an old building that have been renovated and now it is living in 2012, not 1920 or before

I thinkk think that a recreation area on the roof would be a great idea.

But I may agree with you about the wall publicties.

[Francis90b 748]

True we are not in the 1920's anymore, yet things are slightly more complex.

For example, buildings don't always go complete renovations - and in this case some areas of the building might be left as before, while other might be changed - even facade cleaning, or partitioning apartments inside a building, or replacing window sills, might be "renovations".

And, when they go for a complete renovations, some things might be left unchanged, not because the developer doesn't want to change them, but because the way in which the building was built could not allow him to implement those changes at all, or without paying an huge price.

Therefore, some knowledge of the past might be an additional layer of information which could be used in order to make a more sensible and accurate decision - and therefore, produce a more exact representation of a possible reality, be it at 1920, 1967 or 2012, or any time you wish.

And, if we decide to dismiss any additional information and claim that what we see now is just the only relevant information upon which to base our decision, then we should double-check concerning the firmness of our grasp into the current reality...

I would suggest you taking a look at Park Avenue on Bing maps - lots of building have residential penthouses and roof gardens, lots of other ones have nothing of this...in the current year 2012.

  Edited September 23, 2012 by Francis90b  

[IL. 1,043]

I agree about that, I don't like to delete the past or it's traces either, even if the building is too modern, it should have some specifications of the country that it was built in.

But I don't see how changing a part of the roof into a recreation area ruines that past and traces, on the contrary I think that it makes it look, surviving and showing that it is a very old building, like most old buildings have some parasite plants growing on the walls and maybe the roof.

[Francis90b 748]

I'm afraid you might miss my point - i was aiming at suggesting to take a wider perspective at the issue of observing and analyzing things, and acknowledge that reality might often have more nuances and undertones than we might think about in first place - and that we should enquire about a wider context, and not at just what we see or expect (or wish to see), in order to make a truly reasonable decision.

  Edited September 23, 2012 by Francis90b  

[IL. 1,043]

Why don't we talk directly about the model and stop the generalisations?

[Francis90b 748]

Concerning about the model, you are trying to force an open door - i actually stated how things are in the exisiting building which is the base for this BAT, and took no position as wheter a roof garden should be placed or not.

  Edited September 23, 2012 by Francis90b  

[IL. 1,043]

-_-

Pleaas, what are you talking about? lol

[Jack_wilds 550]

dramatic texture development...

[mattb325 28,890]

Looking great - I really love the many different asymmetrical shapes at the rear of the building.

[simlink 1,098]

Amazing looking BAT - the window details and textures are extremely awesome!

[Susaji 523]

Amazing Texture!

[IL. 1,043]

About textures, I'm sure that the roof's texture is not done wright?

Also maybe some roof junk will be nice, like some wooden boxes or something.

  Edited September 24, 2012 by IL.  

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

IL.- Thank you, I will ass some bushes on the roof it's likely I will added som but not get carried

away with them. I think it's not a great idea to put a post advertisment on the side of the building, because it's a apartment building.

About textures, I'm sure that the roof's texture is not done wright?

Also maybe some roof junk will be nice, like some wooden boxes or something.

Hold on now, I have not even did the roof textures in that update, I do have the roof textures on it now, I should post a n update soon.

Francis90b- Thank you, your right on a lot of things. I have to tell you, your really great on spiling out the details. I know I will add some bushed to the building and a few trees but nothing to extreme.

Jack_wilds- Thank you!!!

mattb325- Thank you!!! ;D

sim_link- Thank you!!!

Hazani Pratama- Thank you!!!

  Edited September 24, 2012 by Aaron Graham  

[Aaron Graham 4,417]

Worthington Apartments

I have added more details to the model and the roof textures. D

[Gn_leugim 858]

luvely