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Pretty much what I expected. I try to be pragmatic and nuanced, but you can never escape ideology and fundamentally contested concepts, of course. Tests like the Political Compass of course underestimate the complexity of politics (it usually isn't black or white, for me it's mostly "yes, but...").

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Yeah, that's where I would also be. There was a tool online that decided which party was best for you. I got something between the Greens and the Sex Party.

 

I have a feeling it'll be hard to ask Google just what the "Sex Party" is. 

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I tend to lean conservative and libertarian on many things, except when it comes to business regulation, where I lean liberal/left (I do not trust "Big Government" or "Big Business"). However, I am pragmatic and prefer compromise and working together over intense partisanship and hostility which has become the mainstay of current US politics. Also, given the sorry state of affairs in US politics (as it has been for quite some time) I've grown more apolitical and distrustful of pretty much every politician, regardless of party affiliation.

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Yeah, that's where I would also be. There was a tool online that decided which party was best for you. I got something between the Greens and the Sex Party.

I have a feeling it'll be hard to ask Google just what the "Sex Party" is.

They are a party founded on they ideals of social liberalism and sexual health related topics. Some of their main policies include ending tax exemption on churches, euthanasia legalisation, regulation of the sex industry, full legalisation of abortions in Australia (most states have already), and reducing censorship whilst also reducing exposure of objectionable content to minors.

http://www.sexparty.org.au/Policies/Australian-Sex-Party-Federal-Policies.aspx

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Sex_Party


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My political view.  I do not care about any of this.  Therefore, there will be no taking of this test by me or posting of my results.  I only care about what the right thing to do is.  I like to keep life simple.  Life is far too short and far too easy to lose at any given moment to worry about the petty squabbles that accompanies politics.  If I could I would be a country all unto myself.  I just will not be controlled, not by anyone, and I will defend it at the cost of very life if need be, or yours if it came to it.  As long everyone stays out of my way there is peace, all I want is to live and breathe, nothing more nothing less, yet I would rather die or be imprisoned(for killing the guy who tried to enslave me) before I give up control of my mind to another.  Everything is always black and white with me.

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My political view.  I do not care about any of this.  Therefore, there will be no taking of this test by me or posting of my results.  I only care about what the right thing to do is.  I like to keep life simple.  Life is far too short and far too easy to lose at any given moment to worry about the petty squabbles that accompanies politics.  If I could I would be a country all unto myself.  I just will not be controlled, not by anyone, and I will defend it at the cost of very life if need be, or yours if it came to it.  As long everyone stays out of my way there is peace, all I want is to live and breathe, nothing more nothing less, yet I would rather die or be imprisoned(for killing the guy who tried to enslave me) before I give up control of my mind to another.  Everything is always black and white with me.

 

So actually you do care about political views? Because that is an ideological statement too :)

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Even answering your question would be a sign that I can be controlled.  There are more than just the two options you have laid out.  I will not be forced to choose between anarchy or apathy.

 

Anarchy is stupid.  ONLY the strong would survive in an anarchist state.  This world would be a crazy place under a true state of anarchy.  Think post-apocalyptic.  Gangs running around raping, killing and pillaging, that is anarchy, no regulation of any kind at all, no moral compass, no boundaries, nothing just the strong eating the weak.

 

No.

 

Apathy is knowing what to do and what must be done and not doing it.  I am in fact doing all that one individual can do reflect my social and economic standings.  In fact I own nothing and only work as much as needed to pay my bills and eat and maintain my Internet connection and other basic things like maintenance on items I won(which are few but are of exquisite quality).  This is that I can stay in a nothing to lose state of living, I am ready at a moments notice, when the people wake up and decide they want to take back what is rightfully theirs, I am ready to join them.  I would fight solo for our dwindling rights but I would be like a bug smashing upon a window of a car, people these days would see my ultimate sacrifice and it would be forgotten in 2 seconds or less.  A useless waste of life.  So instead I lie in wait.

 

I do not own anything convenient, no TV, no Bed(I sleep on a cot), no car(I ride a bicycle), no food stocked shelves or cupboards(I go get food when I am hungry), no this, no that.  I take only that which I need to survive.  You can hardly label that apathy.  It is indeed hard work to live a humble life.  I maintain a constant state of "nothing to lose".

 

No, I am neither of those, not even close.  You would really see only those two options?  Why would you give someone only those two options to choose from?  It just seems asinine and narrow minded to me.  No, I would make my own way before I had to decide on either of your two options.  I would be embarrassed if I got caught handing out ultimatums like that.  A short list of options and a lame attempt to classify me.  That is what that was.  There of course is absolutely no point in trying to classify anyone.  It is meaningless.  We are not known for our words, but known instead by what we do in life.

 

There was a poll done, a small and inaccurate one, one that asked the pollees if they were worried about global warming, nothing new there see that all the time, the result that the majority of those polled were in fact worried about global warming.  I see nothing wrong nor right about this.  But it does make me want to run a poll on those people who said they were worried about it.  The poll I would run would read something like this, "You are worried about global warming this much you have revealed, what are you willing to sacrifice your conveniences to turn it around?"  The majority of them would likely say no.

 

I do not do what I do for global warming(that above was just an example).  I do what I do because it just feels right, I need no other motivation.

 

-(I have to wonder now, Is your limited choices list an attempt to paint me into a corner?  A means of control?  Must you classify EVERYTHING and EVERYONE?  Everything absolutely must fit into column A or B?  What happens when something does not fit your profile?  Do you create a new column?  If so, would that not skew your classification system?)- no need to answer those, those are just my personal thoughts.

 

I respect you, but I cannot respect the limited choices you have laid down before me.  If you feel insulted, well, imagine how I feel that you tried to classify me as apathetic or anarchistic only.  Not trying to get a tit-for-tat thing going on here, I was expressing my heartfelt opinion.  I welcome yours, remember, I am all about black and white, if I can dish it I can take it.

 

Yes, Timmie, I DO care...when it gets in the way of right and wrong.

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Oh no, I'm a terrorist! Hate me :P

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-(I have to wonder now, Is your limited choices list an attempt to paint me into a corner?  A means of control?  Must you classify EVERYTHING and EVERYONE?  Everything absolutely must fit into column A or B?  What happens when something does not fit your profile?  Do you create a new column?  If so, would that not skew your classification system?)- no need to answer those, those are just my personal thoughts.

 

I respect you, but I cannot respect the limited choices you have laid down before me.  If you feel insulted, well, imagine how I feel that you tried to classify me as apathetic or anarchistic only.  Not trying to get a tit-for-tat thing going on here, I was expressing my heartfelt opinion.  I welcome yours, remember, I am all about black and white, if I can dish it I can take it.

 

Yoshi isn't forcing you to choose between two options, he is trying to understand your general thinking. There was no ultimatum and there was no forcing you to choose, there was an attempt to understand. There is nothing wrong with some limited classification (see Max Weber's ideal types). Classification (or in other words: giving things a name) makes the world better understandable because it reduces complexity (here lies the danger of classification too, of course, you can remove too much complexity). Classification doesn't necessarily mean you fit into a group perfectly. I, for example, have elements of socialism, humanitarianism, liberalism (in the European sense of the word), but also conservatism in my thinking. The same is more or less true for everyone, I think: we all think in a certain (but different) way, we have ideas from several ideologies, in different combinations. (You say you are for black and white, so why are you so against classification then?)

 

I think you have clear anarchist elements in your thinking, besides other elements (doing the things YOU think are right, not wanting to be controlled by other people or institutions, freedom of thought,...). Your evaluation of anarchism is too negative, I think. Anarchism isn't violent or chaotic per definition. By its nature, there is in anarchism of course the possibility for chaos, violence, survival of the fittest (a Hobbesian state of nature, since there is no Leviathan). But the nuance is in the word possibility, it needn't be that way. Anarchist ideas are not about a preference for violence, they are exactly about the want for autonomy, deciding for yourself (these ideas are among the ones you have formulated I think). I am not saying that you belong in the anarchist closet, what I say is more nuanced and allows for complexity: there are some anarchist elements in your thinking, among other elements (and not necessarily all elements of anarchism). To me, it seems there are important ecological and anarchist ideas in your thinking.

 

That's the power of classification: by giving certain things a name, you can easily understand the world. Because if we wouldn't classify at all, everyone would constantly need to explain in detail their thinking, whereas (though we lose some nuance) when we say "my ideas generally are socialist, anarchist and ecologist" we say more or less the same, people understand it quite easily, but with much less words.

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Hmmm...I was hoping to be further to the left than that  :golly:


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I  heavily favor the state over the individual, so that would make me authoritarian, I believe the state, and by extension, the society which the state serves, should take care of its members, which puts me squarely in the left, but I also believe there is plenty of room for well regulated capitalism, so Im not at the end of it. 

 

Though this scale is missing a vital dimension. The one that defines between progressive and conservative. Progressive would include for example, ones opinion the role technology should play in society and things like green issues. Progressive is clearly not part of the tradition left-right and libertarian-authoritarian scales. You have green parties that are clearly left on all other economic issues and you have green parties that are clearly right on economic issues. Furthermore, you can be a green hippie who wants as little as state possible or you can be someone who believes green innovation is something the state can play a positive role in. 

 

Conservative suffers from the same problem as conservative is essentially decided by ones stance on things like civil rights, abortion and the role of religion, as opposed to technology. Conservatives in the US generally favor the more liberal forms of economics, but it is perfectly possible to be conservative on civil rights and religion while at the same time favoring a more socialist approach to economics. Similarly, US conservatism tends to be more towards libertarianism, mostly because it fits nicely with their economic views, but Fascism is actually ultra conservative and clearly favors the authoritarianism. 

 

If we include this dimension into the model, I would be placed right somewhere with the progressives. I want more green technology and I want my politicians make that happen! Also, favor gay rights, womens rights, etc. 


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I don't usually fill out political surveys, but if I did I would be way back here  --->  aaa.gif

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Is european a political view?

If not, I'm conservative, progressive, green, christian(for positive religious freedom, but against sects), liberal in terms of culture and medicine, for european integration, against the US meddling around, ...

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Best revise that survry, didn't expect I'd be on the line!

 

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I based my morals on equality for the greater good, and partially for the state to help when it's needed and not needed for society.

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I dislike politics but I figured I'd take the test again. I've moved far more right and a tad down since last I took it.

 

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hahahaha omg

i think thats a liiitle too much :P
Also, yes the quiz is flawed, just like dukus said:

 

"Prime example: are big companies unethically exploiting workers in third world countries? Absolutely. Ought our government do something to curb that? No, it's not their responsibility to legislate ethics."
 

Exactly

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its all about anarcho-capitalism babeh  :D

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Taking the one Tr3amx posted, I guess my views are solid. I landed a little bit farther left than where I expected to be, but I guess thats normal.

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"This is America, where a lying, cheating degenerate like myself can prosper." 

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From political compass quiz.

 

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Political test from gotoquiz.

 

I did the test of OkCupid, but that test is more related to the United States politics than the politics of the world.


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hahahaha omg

i think thats a liiitle too much :P

Also, yes the quiz is flawed, just like dukus said:

 

"Prime example: are big companies unethically exploiting workers in third world countries? Absolutely. Ought our government do something to curb that? No, it's not their responsibility to legislate ethics."

 

Exactly

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its all about anarcho-capitalism babeh  :D

Oh heyyy a "fellow" Libertarian. A Canadian one at that, thought it was only big in America.

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Here's what I got.  It's at least in the ballpark of what I expected.

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