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Join the club left and libertarian:

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -7.00

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.26 pcgraphpng.php?ec=-7.00&soc=-6.26

I seriously question the accuracy of that scaling - I'm not that libertarian you know, but I am quite left wing I agree; most likely more so than that chart would indicate.

I oppose anarchism though (which is why I feel that the said chart cannot be accurate), I support a democratic socialist economy (with a gradual transition from a mixed-Keynesian economy; evidently Keynes' ideas were much better than the Austrian-Chicago schools ideas that got us into this recent mess), and I oppose gun control. I am not a pacifist, although I do believe that wars if possible should be avoided, and that countries like the US need to reduce military spending at this point.

Your thoughts about the accuracy of the chart?

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Here be my apparent scores as depicted by the all powerful political chart:

Economic Left/Right: -5.38

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08

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wow, someone voted authoritarian???

Okay, so liberal moderate. Mostly I'm eh about it though, populist opinion that is the true base of real-world politics can be just too weird. My economic viewpoint is that I don't know if I really believe in the keynesian model. I just think the government should spend on worthy causes. That's pretty much it.

I always liked the ideology of the original ANC led by Mandela at the end of apartheid. Trying to bring down the white establishment of nationalized industry and dysfunctional trade into a free market that creates wealth, while the government spends money on the poor to make them better off. Sadly the clusterf*** of reality in Africa killed this I suppose but from a idealistic standpoint I liked it the most. You certainly see the difference though,South Africa despite being infamous always seemed like the best country in Africa to me. Soweto being positively upscale in comparison to the smelly tidewater slums of Lagos.

for "culture war" garbage I am unapologetically liberal. pro-gay, pro-choice, non-religious, and so forth. Naturally this is mostly generational. Though my attitudes on gun control have been shifting to more of a pro-gun stance lately.

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To be fair, the questions on that Political Compass are pretty silly: "Economic globalisation should support the needs of humans rather than trans-national conglomerates" -- who's going to disagree with that?

"I'd always support my country, right or wrong" -- you'd have to be a fascist to agree with that!

Anything which places Margaret Thatcher to the right of Adolf Hitler has to be taken with a grain of salt.

But in my case, I'm a hang-'em-and-flog-'em conservative, ardently monarchist and virulently opposed to the EU.  Hanging's too good for 'em -- bring back crucifixion!

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I call myself a liberal, with beliefs in personal freedom, social welfare and (with some reservations) in  economic regulation.I think that religion shouldn't be allowed to influence state laws or have particular privileges.

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wow most people here are left wingers. I scored to the right of the scale dont i feel out of place.... oh well I did notice that i scored close to Ehud Olmert and that moral politics test says im a Conservative/Neoliberlism which sounds about right for me, but then again im a gun totten American....

Now heres something that intrests me does your political Ideology affect the way you build your city?

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 Looks like i'm quite the Lefty scum bucket... but you all knew that already 48.gif

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I had an older one too from the Cupid site. I'm sure theres another one of these topics somewhere, but I might as well post it again -

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This is my political chart. I'm generally conservative on social issues such as gay marriage and abortion, but am a bit more liberal on other issues.

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I don't know... i guess if i WAS a politician i'd do whatever seemed best or more rational rather than follow a particular side or group... And when i vote (i only turned 18 this year) i'll vote for whoever seems the best candidate, i.e judge them individually

But i guess i'd be rational whatever that is in political terms

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I don't know... i guess if i WAS a politician i'd do whatever seemed best or more rational rather than follow a particular side or group... And when i vote (i only turned 18 this year) i'll vote for whoever seems the best candidate, i.e judge them individually quote>

So, in other words, if you were a politician you would not tow the party line, and be independent; and when you vote, you judge them individually. I consider that rational. Remember that parties are just an organized group of people.

But i guess i'd be rational whatever that is in political termsquote>

I consider voting rationally to be voting for who you think will best do the job they are being elected to do (i.e. President, PM, Congressman, Premier, etc.).

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Originally posted by: Patricius Maximus

I don't know... i guess if i WAS a politician i'd do whatever seemed best or more rational rather than follow a particular side or group... And when i vote (i only turned 18 this year) i'll vote for whoever seems the best candidate, i.e judge them individually quote>

So, in other words, if you were a politician you would not tow the party line, and be independent; and when you vote, you judge them individually. I consider that rational. Remember that parties are just an organized group of people.

But i guess i'd be rational whatever that is in political termsquote>

I consider voting rationally to be voting for who you think will best do the job they are being elected to do (i.e. President, PM, Congressman, Premier, etc.).

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Hmm, well the reason i would not 'tow the line' is mostly due to Simcity and some other data which suggests that the right thing to do is usually very localized and has nothing to do with a broad party goal or ideal. (I.e is theres a power shortage you need a new plant or higher funding, not a ban on nuclear weapons etc)

I guess if i WAS a politician i would to an extent be curbing my own opinion, both for social reasons (who wants to be a hated figure in the spotlight?) and because some of my opinions would be considered idealistic to an extent. In an ideal world (i.e if i was god rather than a politician) i'd be more free with my opinion and less restrained to reality, and my personality and ideals would take command- and i imagine that if i was the type of politician who gave his opinions control over his policies i'd be pro science and progress con religion con to gays, multiculturalism and freedom of religion, pro to technological advancement, con to divorce and polygamy, con to sex before marriage, pro to educational funding increases, con to funding to the military, sports, arts and culture, pro to funding for infrastructural improvements and expansion, pro to (and this is where i'd go into the controversial realm) culling of individuals using the prune method (i.e getting rid of dead growth (old people) and weaker growth, in a humane fashion of course) pro to curbing overpopulation and following the 'less people-more resources and higher living standard' system, pro to cars and trams and trains and buses, con to bicycles (safety reasons) pro to skateboards, con to bmx (it's called a skatepark for a reason ppl) pro to guns pro to birth control but con to sex without of a marriage pro to limitation of number of children per household con to counterpatriotism without of reason pro to freedom of the press con to freedom of speech without of reason (burning flags, protests that get out of hand) pro to the internet pro to some controls of internet content con to books and print (i quote from ghostbusters, print is dead) pro to cel animation, con to cgi and 3d animation, pro to increasing funding for health con to increasing funding for the environment (going back to my 'less people more resources' stance you'll probably guess that also means less pollution) pro to normality (a complex thing with a simple label) con to weirdness and pro to making a new season of Daria, cos that show was great.

But yeah if i WAS a politician i'd be rational (i.e situation and realistic based policies as opposed to idealistic and opinion based policies)

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Originally posted by: Wizard of ID

To be fair, the questions on that Political Compass are pretty silly: "Economic globalisation should support the needs of humans rather than trans-national conglomerates" -- who's going to disagree with that?

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Actually, the neoliberal movement, the Chicago School of Economics, and the Austrian School of Economics would oppose that. 11.gif They feel that letting corporations dominate would yield the optimal economic impact, which has been the cornerstone of their ideology. Of course, they are largely responsible for the current economic mess, but will never get the courage to live up to it.

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I've taken more than a few of these political compasses and some of the question are kind of vague, misleading or, well, stupid. See Wizard of ID's post on this page and Duke's on the first. They don't seem to represent libertarians very well, which is what I normally call myself. All of the tests call me a socialist, which is weird. First because socialism and libertarianism don't normally mix (not that they can't). Second because I've always thought of myself as a capitalist. I think the primary reason for the mislabeling is because of the corporate ethics type questions. They seemed to assume that because I think that companies doing X and Y is bad, I want to reform the government so that X and Y can appropriately be controlled. That's not the way I envision companies should be controlled -- companies should be controlled by the consumer.. they are the ones that buy the products and services after all!

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These compasses are largely arbitrary between left and right. Typically, it is because we already associate such positions with one side of the political spectrum that we assign these sorts of things. The left generally favours greater equality, social/civil freedom (although that is libertarianism), and looks at the power of the situation while the right generally favours economic freedom, a traditional society, and a general aversion to change. Libertarians favour anything that gives more freedom at the expense of anything else and authoritarians are the exact opposite.

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Originally posted by: Eastwinn

I've taken more than a few of these political compasses and some of the question are kind of vague, misleading or, well, stupid. See Wizard of ID's post on this page and Duke's on the first. They don't seem to represent libertarians very well, which is what I normally call myself. All of the tests call me a socialist, which is weird. First because socialism and libertarianism don't normally mix (not that they can't). Second because I've always thought of myself as a capitalist. I think the primary reason for the mislabeling is because of the corporate ethics type questions. They seemed to assume that because I think that companies doing X and Y is bad, I want to reform the government so that X and Y can appropriately be controlled. That's not the way I envision companies should be controlled -- companies should be controlled by the consumer.. they are the ones that buy the products and services after all!quote>

There are such things as left wing libertarians. Perhaps Noam Chomsky comes to mind. As you pointed out, left wing libertarians can mix together. In fact, it appears to be what most people on the left today in the Western world are, left wing libertarians. The accusations of the right about the left being communist are entirely inaccurate for this reason - communists are authoritarian.

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I am a Liberal myself, Conservatives are too old fashioned for me, lol

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I support the Democrats but have conservative views on gay marriage and gun control. Odd. Perhaps its just that I hated Palin and Bush with a passion.


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I took this test again today... Did a search to see where I was 3 years ago compared to now:

 

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I do consider myself a centrist so that works for me :)

 

The only ones I took a strongly agree/disagree stance on was race superiority (disagree), rich deserve better healthcare (disagree), people should keep to their own kind (disagree), mothers needing to be homemakers (disagree), astrology explains many things (disagree), and needing to be religious to be moral (disagree). I didn't strongly agree with anything.

 

 

Take the test here: http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

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Taking the test, I ended up here:

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Pretty nuanced, if I may say so...

To me, too left wind is inefficient, too right wing it too immoral, too authoritarian is also immoral, too liberal ends up in chaos, too progressive is risky, too conservative makes you fall behind of the rest. So therefore, I search for the right nuances to escape these consequences of the extremes.


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You realize that all this is totally subjective.  I am simply an SOB when it comes right down to it.  Perverse curmudgeon is probably a printable description.


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    Your true political self:

You are a

Social Conservative 

(30% permissive)

and an...

Economic Conservative 

(88% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Strong Republican

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

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I had never taken this test before so its interesting the different questions.


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Taking the test, I ended up here:

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Pretty nuanced, if I may say so...

To me, too left wind is inefficient, too right wing it too immoral, too authoritarian is also immoral, too liberal ends up in chaos, too progressive is risky, too conservative makes you fall behind of the rest. So therefore, I search for the right nuances to escape these consequences of the extremes.

 

To each their own, eh? Remember what is considered extreme in the eyes on one person isn't necessarily extreme in others. I know many people who call me an extremist, although I consider them the extreme ones.

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You are a...

 

Social Moderate
(55% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(11% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


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You are a
Social Liberal
(70% permissive)
and an...
Economic Liberal
(21% permissive)
You are best described as a:

Strong Democrat

You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.

 

I mentally replaced nation-specific questions with somewhat equivalent ones for Australia. Converting between party systems, that probably puts me in the strong ALP or Greens region.


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