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President Vladimir Putin has dissolved the Russian government. The Russian elections are just three months away. A Russian spokesman said the decision to dissolve the government was based on "the approaching major political events in the country and a desire to give the president full freedom in making decisions, including personnel."

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Weird. And yes, an insult to the populace as well, Barbarossa. 

I'm not quite sure exactly what it all means as far as the actual effect on the government except, as noted above, to ensure Pukin's contol of power and/or to strengthen the quasi-dictatorship that he's developed. Maybe he has a so far undisclosed medical condition or something where he'll be down and out and needs a puppet he can count on to be his mouthpiece if he's off the air for some time. 

I'll be keeping an eye on future developments.

(In a way, I guess it's similar to the U.S., except in the U.S., the cabinet and unseen advisors makes the decisions and the president is the puppet.)

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I heard on Yahoo that the guy Putin nominated as Prime Minister is from the communist party! Could this become the USSR all over again?

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USSR=feared world superpower

Post-Communism Russia=weak country with a comparatively quite small global influence

It should surprise no one that so many Russians want to make things more like they were in the days of the USSR given that.

And I'm sure that many people outside of Russia too would like to see Russia rise back to what it once was, as the US has recently become viewed rather negatively in much of the world as we are the only remaining superpower and have become overbearing in our involvement elsewhere; they would like it very much if we once again had a rival to "keep us in check" as it were. What a lot of people don't see is that China has a lot of potential towards filling that Rival role in the future.

And, think what you will of America's foreign policy, the fact remains that the world is actually safer now that there aren't two rival superpowers consistently at each other's throats... since now there isn't a constant looming threat of nuclear war. Terrorism is today's looming threat. Still, terrorism has the potential to cause quite a bit of destruction and kill a lot of people... but nuclear war has the potential to wipe all life off the face of the earth. I think I'd rather be threatened by terrorism. How about you?


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Putin wants to compete with America and the UK for world power house. Since 1990, Russia has lacked in that department and Putin is acting like an dictator than a president. So that is my two cents worth. JKB

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Very good question and very good points, Duke. I think the real question is whether the populace wants to be a superpower again ore whether they want the capitalistic western lifestyle with the cool designer jeans and 50 brands of soap at the supermarket. Might be a hard call for them, given human nature and the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed since the dissolution of the USSR.

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Oceanmariner, he is not from the communist party, he is a former member from the communist party, something very usual in the russian political world.

About the question if Russia could become USSR again, the answer I think is that it is yet becoming USSR, in many politial procedures the system is frightening coming back to past.

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Is Canada the Poland of the 21st century?  We lie between the two "super" powers.  If Mr. Putin is making national socialist noises that's one thing, if he is making comintern noises that's another.

Being democracies, we will wait for the first slap.  We could well be off into another "cold war".  It will be interesting to see if Putin tries to annex the Ukraine.  Should be like Hitler taking back the Ruhr, but we should react this time.


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Originally posted by: coolotter88 isn't dissolving parliament a normal part of government anyway?quote>

Yes, but not 90 days before a (maybe) election.  You usually call the election and then immediately dissolve the parliament.


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I think russia is gettin ready to become like the former USSR, but that's just me.

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Indeed, Russia seems to be headed down the wrong path... This article is from earlier this year, and now Putin has dissolved the government. That can't be good.

I encourage everyone who hasn't read the article to take a look at it, its pretty scary stuff.

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Originally posted by: N_O_Body It will be interesting to see if Putin tries to annex the Ukraine. quote>
 

It appears he may be more interested in Georgia, where Moscow's power is even more strongly felt.


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good thing it dosen't happen in the US!

Only time will tell of what willl happen!


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I don't see whats so god damn scary about a resurgent Russia? Good for them, and besides the US armed forces would receive a boost, we wouldn't have time to get into Iraq etc. Just as long as there is no Iron curtain, with people being oppressed I don't see anything wrong with a resurgent Russia.

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So what are you gonna do to stop him, diplomacy? Or will it be a finger on the button? This can't be good. But let's wait and see until he does something (even more) irrational.

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Originally posted by: Goldfish4209 So what are you gonna do to stop him, diplomacy? Or will it be a finger on the button? This can't be good. But let's wait and see until he does something (even more) irrational.quote>

Whats to stop? Not like its anyone's country except Russians. And finger the button wouldn't work, because he could finger it back 3.gif

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Originally posted by: Yoman3
Originally posted by: Goldfish4209 So what are you gonna do to stop him, diplomacy? Or will it be a finger on the button? This can't be good. But let's wait and see until he does something (even more) irrational.quote>

Whats to stop? Not like its anyone's country except Russians. And finger the button wouldn't work, because he could finger it back 3.gifquote>

 

He's a cagy old spy, and likely an excellent bluffer. I doubt a nuclear showdown is his heart's desire.  Russia is a powerhouse of natural resources, with the largest energy deposits in the world. I think he's doing what he can to leverage his country into a better position. I would if I were him.


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There are more than just Russians in Russia, Yoman3, just as there are more than just Americans in America. Saying that Russia as a collective whole has the right to decide its own future, be it resurgent or not, is indeed true, so long as that decision is left in the hands of the people and all the people. The Russian GOVERNMENT making that decision pre-emptively is what is troublesome. I'd like to see the article mentioned by Micah to better understand the current situation; at this point this Zubkov seems more of a puppet or decoy than the real mcCoy, if you catch my drift.

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Hi, all ...

Only one little step with government in my country and great discuss about it - this is very interesting for me ....

I think about this - this is common PR step - no more, this country hold big rock in her hands from XVIII century (Romanov N4, N5 , N6, Lenin, Stalin - etc. for today)

Great vacuum bomb is not for World - this is for us - now we must  think about our country - "OK we are number 02 in this world - not number 120 with health and living conditions".

And I like Manticorefan's speech - interesting mind !

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The Nashi article was disturbing, but think of their population projections compared with the Chinese or India- Part of it may be driven by a genuine alarm over growth rates, and not wanting to follow the trends in the west of a declining, older population. Even in SC4, this is bad. The whole youth camp sounds like an 80's frat boy movie mixed with hardcore indoctrination. Cadre Cola, anyone?

I suspect there is quite a back story to the political maneuvering. I don't think it's a good omen, though.


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Originally posted by: Yoman3

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Just as long as there is no Iron curtain, with people being oppressed I don't see anything wrong with a resurgent Russia.quote>

The problem is, only a very few people have benefited from Russia's embrace of capitalism, and those are mostly ex-communists.  The majority of Russia's people are in just the same position as they were before the fall of Communism, and many even worse.  Has no one here heard the horror stories of people drinking household solvents because they couldn't get any vodka?  How bad off does a society have to be to get to that point?

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Originally posted by: Teddah  Has no one here heard the horror stories of people drinking household solvents because they couldn't get any vodka?quote>
 

If that's the case, maybe it's time to quit drinking anyways!


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I mostly agree with Manticorefan. He has the most realistic russia-view among you guys. I lived in the US and I know how many information comes to that society and I know how differently you think. I don't tell you these 'cause I am a European, I just agree with some of you how see what I saw.

First of all there is not the communist who you have to worry about. In russia the third largest party is the Communist Party, but since the fall of the USSR they couldn't get close to power, just as close as an opposition party get in the parliament. Somehow it is true, that those who benefited from the shift in economic systems are very few and now they hold a lot of power. This is the usual case when privatization happens in a former-socialist country. I don't know why do you call this new elite communist? Basicly these guys are extremly rich businessman and by this they can't communist of course. They won't rebuild the communism in Russia, as in today's conditions, they can obtain more power and more money then back in the 80's. Another intersting thing is that the new elite is relatively young, so this is the other reason why they can't be real communists. They started their life and enterprise in the 80's. Like Putin. Putin was and intelligence officer in East-Germany in the '80s. Like most of the new elite.

And there is another thing why you shouldn't worry about this whole new elite, as in most of the western democracies, and basicly in all of the democracies, the real power is the economic power. Who rule the US? Big companies own the power. You will argue about it, but that is the case, and this is why the US is working so well. The GDP grows at the rate of 5 or 8 % or more in the US. Because government can make company-friendly decisions...

This is the same in Russia, except, there are guys who rule out the power of money. Such guy is Putin. In the US or in Europe usually the economical elite pays the politcal campaigns of their favourite politicians, and the winner helps these elites. In Russia, Putin's politcal power overrules the economical power. Otherwise it is the same democracy like in Europe but a little bit indeveloped.

But for example the living standards in Moscow and St Petersburg are very high according to the the country's other standards.

And the other aspect is that the Russian Federation is alread a power of energy and they are slowly shop in Europe. I the russian capital is buying european companies and the russian money wants to invest, like the american money.

Let me continoue my opinion later. Excuse me.


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