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[hawkpride147 1]

Originally posted by: SpokaneFlyBoy

Originally posted by: david1314

Originally posted by: SpokaneFlyBoy

Originally posted by: 2nerdy4u I am totally aware of the taxiways over the roads. Coolest thing in the world to see a plane crossing above. The majority of planes don't use these taxiways, however, and stay on one side of the airport. I think these taxiways are for accessing service areas or something.quote>

I can easily explain the reasoning for this. Time costs money. the other runways are closer for the airlines and thus less fuel and time to reach it and get in the air. Every minute wasted on the ground is easily several hundred dollars when you have jet engines guzzling fuel at rate close to 1500 lbs of fuel an hour (approximately 250 if I recall the weight of jet fuel correctly). Unless you really need to be on the other side of the airport, or the runway(s) designated for take-off on your side are so congested that taxiing to the other side is actually quicker, it would be illogical to do so.quote>

Sorta...The time you are likely to cross the roads are on intercontinental flights, and arrivals and departures at individual airline rush hours.

Its simply a question of how many planes you have coming in at once.  The nature of airports is that small areas of the terminal handle large amounts of traffic at a time, this is to facilitate connections.  At an airport where the commuter terminal and the majority of AA's gates, when all 4 (I know there are 5, but only 4 can be used simultaneously) of the runways need to be used to land planes, it doesn't matter how long the taxi is....10 mins of taxi is MUCH less expensive than 1 minute of flying.  'Time is money' doesn't apply so much when fuel is the major elastic cost in the equation rather than labor.

But anyway, because Hubs are designed wholly on the premise of facilitating connecting flights, the goal is quite literally to place the maximum number of flights to the minimum area...we call it a terminal .  But to get that many planes in to the gates, you runways can only handle so many aircraft per hour...so quite simply, if you have x planes arriving to the B concourse within 1 hour of eachother to connect you need more than 2 runways to service it...necessarily planes will have to cross the field.

It is true that outbound flights will much more often use the runway on the same side as the terminal, but particularly with landing aircraft, it is much less expensive to get it down somewhere and then maneuver on then ground.

Intercontinental flights work in much the same way because they all tend to arrive at similar times of the day to other aircraft arriving from the same region due to timezone considerations.

There are of course tons of other factors that go into runway usage, but as far as airport design goes, those are the main considerations.quote>

Quite right, I was speaking on departing aircraft and in doing so neglected the factors on arriving aircraft. Thank you for expounding on the aspects of the arrivals that I forgot to give attention to.quote>

As a frequent flier of DFW Airport, i can give some insight into the road crossover usage. crossover is 99% of the time never used on departing flights. you simply depart from the side of the airport you are on. crossing over the road is pretty common on arriving flights that are not american airlines. american has terminals on both sides so you just end up on whatever side you land. at DFW you land on the side that you are coming from (east or west). for example if you are flying from Las Vegas on US Airways, you will

[football_fever 6]

I need a little help with my airport. I'm trying to make a rough recreation of LAX. I know I don't have enough space between terminal arms here. How far apart should they be to allow planes to get out of gates and such? Which lots should I be looking for in the airport menu for the yellow lines that guide planes to taxiways and runways, since they all look so similar and don't have any guides as to which way the lines will face once it's plopped? Any and all help is much appreciated.

[outriderdriver 4]

My airport is dedicated to the guy that pushed me to make it, its Nealos international Airport

Due to pic size limits:

<img src="http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9780/serpenaashtonjan2868119ax0.png"

[KingTitan 6]

Just wanted to comment on your airport so far football_fever... Looks great. I don't have any ideas whatsoever. LOL But don't you wish somebody would make an actual LAX? The architecture of it is incredible. If there is one....heck...point me in that direction..... Yours look great so far friend.

[football_fever 6]

I absolutely wish someone would make LAX BATs. I considered requesting the old control tower in the BAT request thread, but I think I found a way to manage. Nothing a little photoshop can't fix...

[Smarty218 2]

Wow outriderdriver, that looks fantastic! Very nice use of somy's space shuttles.

EDIT: 200th post!!!!

[Haljackey 17,398]

Originally posted by: The_Hutt You realize the FAA would have a heart attack if you had planes taking-off & landing within a few hundred feet of a high-rise jungle, no?quote>

FAA?  Whats that?

Anyways, my runways are clear of any high rises, so things are okay.  Besides, having a BIG airport in a BIG city = BIG commercial office cap relief = skyscrapers.  Thats how airports work!

[YesFan90125 0]

Okay, I love all the airports and now have some great ideas, but where'd the control towers come from? I still need to find one. If you have one to download or know a place to download one, please let me know. Cool airports!

[teddyb4492 1]

Hello Everyone;  I though i might show you a new Airport & Air Base i have been working on.

This is the Island of Aragon and the city of San Uasidro.  all Of the Airports on the island are a joint venture between the Islands transportation department and the Islands Military. 

[feliwi 4]

teddyb4492: Great airport, with a lot of lots I don’t know. Did you make them on your own, if yes grwat work, if not, please tell me, where they from. These cargo 747 and the FedEx MD-11 are simply great looking. And there are some military planes I don’t know. But one more tip, maybe add another one or two runways because it’s a really large airport.

All: Also great airports in this thread, maybe I’ll upload one of mine too.

[Smarty218 2]

Nice job, very organized.

[Smarty218 2]

Great Job, very organized.

[teddyb4492 1]

feliwi: Thanks for the comments, yes i did make some of the lots myself, i just took other peoples props or lots and reworked them for myself, im not a BATer, but a lot maker.  you can find the cargo 747 and the Fedex MD-11 here http://homepage2.nifty.com/tabinohito/index.html  , it is a Japanese site by tobinohito, he has some great stuff.  and yes i am looking at at lease 1 new runway.  We will see, i want it to be as real as posible.  I just started a total rework of a older airport so lets see how that go's thanks for the comments.

Smarty218: Thanks for the comments, i try to make it look real and for it to look like it works, you "could this really be operational".

[Superchan 23]

some of these airports look amazing.

[Skram 4]

Here's mine , what do you think?

I know its very small but its my first airport. If i make a bigger one i'll so you guys!

[Smarty218 2]

Good job, but what is that circular building up in the top right?

[The_Hutt 11]

Here's my recreation of Sacramento International Airport (KSMF) at night.

[trich daddy 0]

Wow!  Fantastic recreation! 

[Smarty218 2]

Yeah great job, I'm a frequenter there!

[BlackPhoenixSim4 0]

How do you use the lot editor to put these Kumba's 767 Plane Props in an airport...I'm having problems. And also how do I find the file names of these props in the editor and under what tab? Could someone please give me the details on how to do this...Thank you.

God Bless

[pilotdaryl 25]

The_Hutt: Your airports are really looking great!  That Sacramento recreation would be a 10/10 if it could be rated!

[BlackPhoenixSim4 0]

What exactly is the "0x2c5d0000---Tag1x1x3_Runway---Gnome" ?

[neongamer 3]

This is my airport thus far, it is called Sabrina Airport (should be internatuional when I input the planes and such)... Enjoy it!

[Craig91 12]

Another great airport The_Hutt you really are an expert at this. Love the layout of your airport Neongamer, but is that is that a train linking the bottom right hand building with the main terminal. If it is I think you should probably make a concourse over its more practical. Otherwise I think it's great

[neongamer 3]

This is basically the main statistics of the airport.

Terminal 1 boasts

5 concourses:

Concourse A, gates A1-A14

Concourse B, gates B1-B14

Concourse C, gates C1-C12

Concourse D, gates D1-D12

Concourse H, gates H1-H10

Overall, terminal 1 has 62 gates.

Mobile terminal, accesible via a people mover from terminal 1.

Terminal 2 boasts:

10 gates, all for Airplanes The size of Embraer E-195 or smaller. Primarily used by CRJ operators.

Terminal C (for Closed) was the main terminal until the airport expanded. Now it serves as an extended security/ customs/ screening centre for cargo and suspicious packages. Packages from originating of terminating in Iraq, Iran, Cuba, Russia, Vietnam or any country where diplomatic relations are poor are subject to screening full stop.

The airport has 4 runways, 10/28 L/R, 1/19 L/R

10L/28R and 1R/10L are both capable of handling any size jets, while 10R/28L is capable of up to the Boeing 737-800, or Airbus A320, and 1L/19R is capble of handling a Bombardier Q400 when weather conditions are favourable.

The airport uses an above ground monorail system, dubbed the 'People Mover', which takes passengers from Terminal C, to Terminal 1 Arrivals, and Terminal 1 Departures. Both have different stops. The longest trip is from Terminal 1 Depatrures to Terminal C, as it is routes a long way round the airport so that a new terminal can be placed without major disruption to the service. Anyway, enough waffling, here's some pictures!

1R/19L, the GA runway.

The ITC (Intermodal Transportation Centre), which handles incoming and outgoing passenger on Rail, People Mover, Taxi, Car or Bus.

The People Mover just outside Terminal 2.

Terminal C, the dormant backbone of the airport.

The concourse structure of the airport. This is Concourse D, showing the outer 'spokes'.

[OffTopic 3]

Wow, love the monorail in the airport. Nice job!

[The_Hutt 11]

Good terminal layout, neongamer. I'd recommend you lengthen your runways to at least 8,000 feet long (152 tiles) and give your runways more separation from the parallel taxiways for added realism.

[bbfan02 23]

Great job on that airport! I like the runways.

[neongamer 3]

Actually, the parallel taxiways look to be about level to what they would be in real life. The bottom bit in the first picture is a bit constricted, you know .

[The_Hutt 11]

Originally posted by: neongamer Actually, the parallel taxiways look to be about level to what they would be in real life. The bottom bit in the first picture is a bit constricted, you know .quote>

Wrong. A Boeing 747-400 has a wingspan of 64.4 meters. If you took half of that (32.2 meters) and recognized that half the runway/taxiway width is 16 meters and that the distance separating your runways and taxiways is only 32 meters, two 747's passing each other on the runway/taxiway would have an overlap of .4 meters. They would, therefore, collide with each other at the wing, causing potentially catastrophic damage to both aircraft (chopping your fingers off one hand would be a suitable analogy). Many aircraft have similar wingspans, and some even have wider ones.

You need, at minimum, 64-meters (4 tiles) of separation for safe aircraft movement. If it's too constricted, then demolish it and build another one elsewhere.