Favorite Public Transportation System

[CapitolAnarchy 5]

Originally posted by: crazyyaya trolleys in really life are outdated, slow, ineffiecent, and land consumingquote>

 

No, the land consuming, outdated, and inefficient form of transportation are individual automobiles, not trolleys.

Trolleys are really energy efficient, cheap to maintain/build, and aren't very slow, as they move at an inner-city speed limit . While they aren't the best  way serve an entire city, they serve small area much more efficiently than a bus or a subway.

Also, most aren't land-consuming; as they operate on regular streets (1) and pedestrian malls (2) that would otherwise be single-purpose thoroughfares. They also can be implemented into old heavy rail lines(3) that are no longer used.

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[emsgoof 1]

And ohhh the sound of a streetcar going down the tracks.

I can still hear the sounds of the air and electrical system coming alive when flipping the M-G Master on the old PCC at the museum

Besides, as my father once said, "I never liked riding buses. I mean come on. You always know where the streetcar is going to go. Who knows if that bus driver is going to get lost or not!"

[ILL Tonkso 1,239]

Originally posted by: CapitolAnarchy

Originally posted by: crazyyaya trolleys in really life are outdated, slow, ineffiecent, and land consumingquote>

 

No, the land consuming, outdated, and inefficient form of transportation are individual automobiles, not trolleys.

Trolleys are really energy efficient, cheap to maintain/build, and aren't very slow, as they move at an inner-city speed limit . While they aren't the best  way serve an entire city, they serve small area much more efficiently than a bus or a subway.

Also, most aren't land-consuming; as they operate on regular streets (1) and pedestrian malls (2) that would otherwise be single-purpose thoroughfares. They also can be implemented into old heavy rail lines(3) that are no longer used.

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And thery can be modern and hi capacity too such as these in...

Birmimgham

Croydon (South London)

Manchester

Nottingham

[jayo 44]

My favourate has to be London's TFL i meen look at this!

I meen its relatively clean and the only problem being the price really.

Also,london has the most termini in the world and the busiest station in the world,Clapham junction getting something like two trains a minute

Here are some pics

[tankmank 853]

I like hks even though isn't big or any thing i like it

[montrouge 2]

Yes tramway or light rail are a good idea but in some place it can be really stupid,

Built a tramway in a dense city of 10 millon inhabitant is stupid.

A tramway in a place like this will be overcrowed.

And Paris make this mistake, now the light rail is overcrowed a subway should be more appropriated. In the avenue aroud the circulation dropped of 25% but the pollution increased of 10% why,  because the traffic jam due at light rail platform.

But with the tramway those district are beautifuf and Paris main Chinatown is at 30 min of Val de Seine business district and Chinatown is near Paris rive gauche business district

The ugly but not cheap towers of Paris main chinatown.

Now with the tramway this boulevard is more active.

[aleko 0]

Here it is! The transmilenio

Bogota Colombia

The transmilenio is the masive transportation system that the city of Bogota use, only in this time it covers a little % of the demand because is a system create  for be finished in a long term.

This is a transmilenio station.

The downtown

Here is the ultimate of transmilenio  a bus with three waggons

here the transmilenio with some photoshop

The transmilenio also  use tunels

[ILL Tonkso 1,239]

Originally posted by: jayo My favourate has to be London's TFL i meen look at this!

I meen its relatively clean and the only problem being the price really.

Also,london has the most termini in the world and the busiest station in the world,Clapham junction getting something like two trains a minute

Here are some pics

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Clapham Junction is a train every 13 seconds.

[Krio 626]

Stockholm's Tunnelbana.

[screamingman12 30]

Originally posted by: aleko Here it is! The transmilenio Bogota ColombiaThe transmilenio is the masive transportation system that the city of Bogota use, only finished in a long term.quote>

BRT, ick. My favorite transit system has to be the SF Muni: The F-Market line The J-Church line The K-Ingleside line The L-Taraval line The M-Ocean Veiw line The N-Juda Line The T-Third Street line The Cable Car System

[Deathamphetimine 2]

Wait, Tampa does have a Public Transportation system, HARTline. Hahahahahahaha oh, I crack myself up. But seriously, my favorite is BART/CalTran and Santa Clara Light Rail. It's so nice to go from Santa Teresa Blvd to Downtown San Fransisco with only one transfer station.

[ssfsx17 0]

I would say that BART is my favorite, but the problem is that it doesn't go to very many different places right now. It was planned many years before Silicon Valley developed. The future of BART reaching into Silicon Valley is not looking so good, either. The bus system that feeds into BART is pretty bad where I live, so the BART stations are often full of cars with no place to park. It's definitely a good model for focusing on connecting a few very important city centers, though.

[skybuilder109 4]

I have to say

I've grown up with the Translink system in Greater Vancouver, Canada

It has a Skytrain, Buses and trolleys, and the SeaBus linking two sides of the harbour.

Here are some pictures!

[Follarch 327]

This is Seattles Monorail line running from the Spaceneedle into downtown and back, and the city has planned and expansion of building many more lines through the city.

We also have Sounder Transit that consists of Commuter trains and buses.

And it even looks like we have a tram!?

[ExiL3 10]

Oslo T-Bane (Tunnelbane)

- Although it's called the tunnel - way, most of it actually runs above ground. (except for downtown of course).

... I am also a fan of the tram system downtown. In Norway called a "Trikk".

take care,

[Haljackey 17,385]

Wow a two-year bump.

Well, since this thread looks revived, I'll go with Singapore. It may be a super-dense city, but it has an amazing transportation system to support it!

[vershner 11]

I'm surprised the Moscow Metro hasn't got a mention. It's apparently the second busiest after Tokyo. It's also by far the prettiest:

[Duke87 1,070]

It boggles the mind how they manage to have a metro system that fancy and keep it clean and polished like that.

When the IRT opened their first subway in New York in 1904, they got very fancy with some of the decor. The station at city hall (now abandoned) had chandeliers, as did the still in use stations at 168th and 181st streets.

Well, if you pass through 168th street now, you can still see where those chandeliers once were, but they're long gone... and it's painfully obvious why, when one also notices that the high vaulted ceiling is noticeably coated with a century's worth of dirt and grime. It didn't take long for the IRT to realize that keeping such things clean was a practical imposiblity and so they simply removed them.

Still, I suppose it also speaks to one way American cities can be drastically different - if someone built something like that in New York where all sorts of commonfolk and riffraf would have easy access to it (such as the subway), it wouldn't take long before vandals broke the lights and the place became strewn with litter.

Even at Grand Central Terminal, fancy as it is, the platforms themselves are dirty, grungy, and relatively undecorated just like a subway station. You walk from there into the main atrium and it's like emerging from the dungeon into a fancy palace. A very sudden and very dramatic shift.

And they attempt to have the bathooms be fancy, but people treat them like they treat any public restroom and they're prone to the same filthiness.

[Simcitymaster13 27]

My two favorite public transportation systems are Colorado's RTD Light Rail and Disneyworld's Monorail

[Martin892 4]

Here in the Netherlands some cities have "hoogwaardig openbaar vervoer" ("high-end mass transit") or HOV systems, which are networks of bus lines at seperate bus lanes or bus roads, sometimes elevated to avoid intersections with normal traffic. In the city of Almere for example (pop. 200.000) you can get anywhere with buses departing every 5 minutes at 10 different bus lines (traffic light delay is minimized, so the arrival time display is correct most of the time). Unfortunately I can't find any pictures of it (but what's special about connexxion buses).

Cheap and effective way to get rid of congestion.

[Martin892 4]

I forgot this one.

[TekindusT 3,809]

I love Barcelona Metro. It covers the most part of the city and it's fast and quite reliable. It is very used by the tourists because it's simple and easy to travel on it.

It was founded, like many metro systems, from two separate companies and the shape of some of the lines is a result of the complicated city's orography and some frustrated rail plans during the fifties and the sixties.

Did you know that line 1 is one of the wider (or maybe the widest) metro line in the world? It is because it's built on a Iberian gauge (1672 mm against the international 1435 mm) because it was intended to link the Barcelona's railway stations.

Plaça Catalunya (Catalonia's Square in English) is a labrynth of three different rail systems: TMB, owner of the Metro lines; FGC and Renfe Rodalies lines, that run suburban trains.

[Yoman3 5]

NYC Subway (and commuter rail lines also operated under MTA / NJ Transit). Stations might not be the cleanest in the world, but it doesn't bother me at all. Its only a subway after all, train cars themselves are perfectly clean, especially the new ones, which are spotless.

I also have a love hate relationship with London's Underground, on the plus its pretty cheap, efficient, and gets me anywhere I need to go. On the downside, there is no air conditioning, which was hell this summer. And on the deep lines I have to duck my head in the trains they are so small (lets hope I never have to go on the Glasgow subway

[Dino007 1]

My favourite:

Inter City Slovenija

[Martin892 4]

wow looks better than the dutch intercity's. Is it hosted by government or what?

[Merlin of Flyote 8]

London is best.

 Big tube system, with trains every couple of minutes.

Buses on most routes every couple of minutes. Flat Fare System

Overground rail every 15 minutes.

Travel Cards and Oyster Cards for one payment travel.

Not many Cities can beat that!

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: Merlin of Flyote London is best.

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Flat Fare Systemquote>

Um, London doesn't have a flat fare system, it has fare zones.

[Merlin of Flyote 8]

Duke87

Not on the buses they're flat fare. one price regardless of distance travelled.

[toxicpiano 125]

London's, Vancouver's and the eurostar.

Seattle monorail is absolutely useless, it goes what, 10 blocks?

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: Merlin of Flyote

Not on the buses they're flat fare. one price regardless of distance travelled.quote>

Ah.

Okay, they got it right on the buses, why the hell didn't they get it right on the tube? Fare zones are an unnecessary complication.

Aside from that, the London underground is a pretty decent system. Two key flaws with it though:

1) it does not run 24/7, it shuts down for a few hours every night.

2) Basically everything is two tracks only, so there's no express service, ever... and no redundancy in the design, so if one track becomes unusable, the whole line is disrupted.