BSC Common Dependencies -- Issue with some old SG Lots

[simster007 403]

Some days ago it was time  to clean up my plugin folder. Many double items, outdated content etc. I decided to install the BSC Common dependencies V8 from SC4evermore and check all my old BSC dep files if they are part of the cleanitols (manually, the cleanitol doesn't work on my mac)

After that some residential lots didn't show the building anymore, I could not even query them. Here one pic as an example, there were some other lots showing the same issue:

 

I could find out that the problematic lots come from SG RLS, no idea from which pack. Same lot with building and query in this pic:

 

 

I ckecked all SG deps I had removed and it showed up that these lots need this old dep in my plugins to  work: BSC BAT Props SG Vol04

This dep should be part of BSC mega prop pack SG Vol1, or am I wrong? Before the clean up both files were in my plugins and their content should be part of the Common dependencies?

Has anybody an idea what is going on here? Do I have to keep these outdated dep because they were part of my plugins when the simulation buit these lots?

 

[Tyberius06 12,274]

4 hours ago, simster007 said:

Some days ago it was time  to clean up my plugin folder. Many double items, outdated content etc. I decided to install the BSC Common dependencies V8 from SC4evermore and check all my old BSC dep files if they are part of the cleanitols (manually, the cleanitol doesn't work on my mac)

After that some residential lots didn't show the building anymore, I could not even query them. Here one pic as an example, there were some other lots showing the same issue:

 

I could find out that the problematic lots come from SG RLS, no idea from which pack. Same lot with building and query in this pic:

 

This dep should be part of BSC mega prop pack SG Vol1, or am I wrong? Before the clean up both files were in my plugins and their content should be part of the Common dependencies?

Has anybody an idea what is going on here? Do I have to keep these outdated dep because they were part of my plugins when the simulation buit these lots?

 

Hi there,

You are not wrong, but I'm a bit late and will be late for a while. 

4 hours ago, simster007 said:

I ckecked all SG deps I had removed and it showed up that these lots need this old dep in my plugins to  work: BSC BAT Props SG Vol04

No-no, that old file actually not needed, that was always in any version of the BSC MEGA Props SG vol01. What you are missing are the building exemplars. 

The BSC Common Dependencies contains the updated/revised versions of the SG Model Packs (residentials included, which meant to supersed the original smaller prop and model packs that were released on STEX over the years with the different housing BAT projects by SG). These packs were originally released on SC4D LEX back in 2007-ish and they contained the building exemplars, BUT they were meant to support the revised SG Lot collections on LEX. During Project ZIP (when we replaced many of the exe installers on LEX) in 2021, both the model and lot packs got a revision and the building exemplars were moved from the prop packs into the lot packs. There was a warning about this on many of the download pages:

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        **Bear in mind while this model pack contains SimGoober's several models which are available on the STEX and/or PLEX as single uploads, this doesn't contain the occasional growable building exemplars and custom queries from those single uploads. For the lots based on this pack the updated (with the X-Tool/PIM-X) growable building examplars can be found with the lot files in the respective WHATEVER LOT PACK (it used to be specified which one)

The SG Residentials have a bit different story, because the original LEX upload used to contain the LOT packs as well, but when the LEX died we only restored the Model Packs as the Residential Lot packs would go into a dedicated SG Compilation. But these got the same treatment too, so the building exemplars had been moved to the LOT packs. 

So the reason that you see empty lots is because the building exemplars are not there. 

4 hours ago, simster007 said:

Do I have to keep these outdated dep because they were part of my plugins when the simulation buit these lots?

For now I would recommend that at least in the case of the SG packs (they are the most affected by this situation) you should keep the old packs and when we release the SG LOT collections on SC4Evermore, then you can remove them finally for good. 

Sorry for the inconviniences, it did not appear in our original plans that the LEX will die on us...

- Tyberius06

[simster007 403]

@Tyberius06: Hi, thx for your time and effort to give me this detailed answer. I totally understand that updating and organizing all the LEX content (is project zip here aditionally still ongoing?) must be a more than time consuming task and appreciate that very much!

30 minutes ago, Tyberius06 said:

No-no, that old file actually not needed, that was always in any version of the BSC MEGA Props SG vol01. What you are missing are the building exemplars. 

Do you speak of v1? I don´t have that available. It is really the file BSC BAT Props SG Vol04.dat that keeps the lots alive, I double checked that.

BSC Mega Props SG vol01 v2/ v3 don´t work, I tried both.

Anyhow, I got it running for now and when the SG stuff will be available at sc4evermore I will try that.

37 minutes ago, Tyberius06 said:

Sorry for the inconviniences, it did not appare in  our original plans that the LEX will die on us...

You don´t need to feel sorry for that. It's your work that keeps fun things in SC4 alive!

[spiritualfire 138]

Thanks for posting this. I just discovered today I was having the same issue with SG lots and couldn't understand why or if I had done something wrong in the Dep Pack's installation.

@Tyberius06 echoing the same thing, thanks for all your hard work!

 

@simster007 I tried your method of adding the Vol04 back in but no avail, I assume something else is going on.

  Edited February 18, 2024 by spiritualfire