Trying to install NAM 39

[City_Slider 2,716]

Hello,

im trying to install NAM39 since 2 Hours? I installed that Java thing correcctly, but it wont let me install the 4GB Patch. The Installer are asking for a Path.... witch one should i pick?

[jeffryfisher 2,176]

You need to find the path to your installation of the SimCity 4 executable. Your shortcut or launcher should tell you where it is (somewhere under program files (x86)).

[rsc204 21,806]

By default, for a Disk version you would find the main program (exe or executable), SimCity 4.exe inside:

C:\Program Files (86)\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps

Of course if you didn't use the defaults, it'll be wherever you installed it. The patch application is not unique to SC4, it can patch any valid .exe file. So you need to tell it which one you want it to apply the patch too.

[City_Slider 2,716]

Whew, finaly

[City_Slider 2,716]

OK, NAM is isnstalled. But if i pic something out of it, the tiles are "blinking"- For Exanple the Flups:

Its going on my nervs.

[rsc204 21,806]

We can't control that in terms of how things are modded. Put another way, if this is happening, it's your hardware that can't handle SC4's graphics properly. Are you running the game with Software Rendering?, which is sub-optimal and causes lots of glitches like this.

Goto SC4's install folder, where you found SimCity 4.exe, there should be a file there named MYCOMPUTERNAME-config-log.txt. Open this in Notepad or similar, then copy and paste it's contents into your next reply. This will give us a lot of useful information that might explain such graphical weirdness.

[City_Slider 2,716]

Something like this?

Spoiler

Log generated on 12/25/2020, 21:38

Flags
-----
hardwareDriver = true
DXT = true
fullscreen = true
MMX = true
FPU = true
backingStore = true
forcedFSAA = false

Strings
-------
userName = Home
appName = SimCity 4
version = 1.1.640.0
osVersion = Windows NT 6.1
computerName = HOME-PC
CPU = GenuineIntel
sglDriverName = DirectX
sglDriverVersion = 2.0
driverName = igdumdim32.dll
driverVersion = 10.18.14.4264, GUID: D7B78E66-4752-11CF-E877-00F0A9C2CD35
cardName = Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
cardVersion = Vendor: 8086, Device: 0412, Board: d0001458, Chipset: 0006
cardIdentity = Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
soundDriverName = 
soundCardName = Primärer Soundtreiber
buildType = Release

Numbers
-------
cpuSpeed = 3192
memory = 3996
freeMemory = 1384
screenWidth = 1024
screenHeight = 768
screenBPP = 16
videoMemory = 192
textureMemory = 192
textureStages = 4
bogoFPS = 0
bogoMPPS = 0

Rules
-----
applying Sound
applying high sound detail
applying City Detail and Day/Night Settings
applying low computer power>
applying high computer power
  option 9 = 3
  option 13 = 1
  option 15 = 3
applying Texture Quality and Building Variety Settings
applying low memory>
applying high memory
  option 3 = 3
  option 14 = 3
applying Variable Speed Automata
applying default
  option 10 = 1
applying Standard hardware
  option 0 = 1
  option 1 = 1
  option 2 = 1
  option 4 = 0
  option 5 = 1
  option 8 = 1
  option 7 = 1
  option 6 = 1
  option 11 = 0
  option 12 = 0
applying Standard hardware>
  option 1 = 2
applying Standard hardware>>
  option 0 = 2
applying Standard hardware>>>
  option 2 = 2
applying Standard hardware>>>>
  option 4 = 1
applying Standard hardware>>>>>
  option 11 = 1
applying Two stages
applying Lotsa vidmem
applying Poor color cursor
  option 7 = 0
applying Not Slow GeForce

Options
-------
Visual Effects       current:   2 recommended:   2
Cars/Sims            current:   2 recommended:   2
Shadows              current:   2 recommended:   2
Atmospheric effects  current:   1 recommended:   1
Water effects        current:   1 recommended:   1
Software/Hardware    current:   1 recommended:   1
Cursor               current:   1 recommended:   0
VariableSpeedAutomata current:   1 recommended:   1
Translucent UI       current:   1 recommended:   1
Graphic Detail       current:   3 recommended:   3
Building Load Speed  current:   3 recommended:   3
Texture Quality      current:   3 recommended:   3

Properties
-------
forcesoftwaredriver = false
renderdynamicview = true
renderstaticview = true
renderwatereffects = true
rendercloudsandfog = true
forcepointsampling = false
forcebilinear = false
forcenoalphablend = false
forcenoalphatest = false
rendershadows = true
renderdecals = true
usesecondstage = true
forcedebugtexture = false
renderparticleeffects = true
renderflorashadows = true
renderterrain = true
showupdateregions = false
usecursoreffects = true
drawlottextures = true
drawlotfoundations = true
drawlotwalls = true
forcetexturerepeat = false
usescreenshake = true
renderui = true
useupdaterectclipping = true
usevertexbuffers = true
showboundingboxes = false
useoverlayculling = true
rendersnapshot = false
noaddsigned = false
nopartialbackingstorecopies = false
usescreenflash = true
renderautomata = true
preferopaque = false
displayalertborders = true
drawlotopaquetextures = true
useviewcleanup = false
doautozoomandrotationchanges = true

viewoffsety = 0
viewoffsetx = 0
texturebits = 32
lodoffset = 0
shadowdebug = 0
maxparticlestarget = 10000
particlelodoffset = 0
effectprioritylevel = 5
backingstoremaxzoomall = 5
backingstoremaxzoombuildingsprops = 5
backingstoremaxzoomterrain = 5
backingstoremaxzoomflora = 5
shadowquality = 2
minvehiclezoom = 3
minpedzoom = 4
cursortype = 1
depthoffset = 2
debugtexture = 0
dirtyrectmergeframes = 4
sounddetail = 2
buildingvariety = 2
buildingloaderspeed = 1
modellodoffset = 0
stringtexturecachesize = 1024

particleeffectslod = 5
splattexturescale = 50
texbindmaxfree = 8
particledensity = 1
particledamping = 0
particlescale = 1
lightingupdatedelta = 0,0001
shadowmodelthreshold = 12
demolishmodelthreshold = 12
rendermodelthreshold = 6
rendermodelthresholdscroll = 40
particlesizethreshold = 300
maxvehiclepct = 1
maxpedpct = 1
opaqueuialphavalue = 0,55

 

[City_Slider 2,716]

Hm,

i just checked it in other Regions. There it works without that "blinking". Its only in the Region, that i would like to play: New Timbuktu, the Region Cori made.

*E*

Same Region, but without that "blinking". Now Grafic Bux

Guess i´ll go back to 32. Thats Version is working on my System.

[City_Slider 2,716]

Hm,

now i have this Problem with all NAM Versions i testet 38, 34 and 32. Always the same Problem= the Tiles at the Mouse are blinking. Guess im going to uninstall SC4 and reinstall it

[rsc204 21,806]

12 hours ago, City_Slider said:

Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600

There's your problem.

I have the exact same iGPU in my systems, both an i7 4700 and a i7 4970k CPU. The drivers do work, but there are problems and this is simply part of that, the drivers don't support functions SC4 needs to display without issues. You can of course try updating the drivers, when I first had one of these iGPUs in 2013, the drivers were so bad with SC4, it was literally unplayable. An update in 2015 finally fixed that, but it is still very far from perfect.

My solution was to add a dedicated GPU to my computer, which worked perfectly with SC4. If you are using a laptop, you'll simply have to live with things, you can not add or change the GPU for such machines. But, if you have the option to install one (i.e. you have a desktop with a spare PCI-e socket), you can do so for very little money with a second hand Nvidia/ATI card. Likewise a laptop that also includes a second dedicated card, should not be using the Intel one for SC4.

Note that there is nothing wrong with the HD4600 GPU itself, which plays many games well at 1080p. But the drivers are simply crap at legacy support.

12 hours ago, City_Slider said:

Guess i´ll go back to 32. Thats Version is working on my System.

This has NOTHING to do with the version of NAM being used.

56 minutes ago, City_Slider said:

now i have this Problem with all NAM Versions i testet 38, 34 and 32. Always the same Problem= the Tiles at the Mouse are blinking. Guess im going to uninstall SC4 and reinstall it

See... Likewise this has nothing to do with your install of SC4 either.

If you continually try to change things, because you don't understand what is actually at fault, all you do is make it harder and harder to actually fix anything. Reinstalling SC4 is futile and will not fix this problem.

If it worked before, let's try to work out what's changed, rather than simply trying to change everything until it works.

[City_Slider 2,716]

Done,

with NAM 38 it works fine... and without this "blinking" thing

[rsc204 21,806]

14 minutes ago, City_Slider said:

with NAM 38 it works fine... and without this "blinking" thing

No it doesn't. I'm sorry but you will find the blinking keeps coming back, but the problem may not be consistent.

As I mentioned before, there is nothing about how a given NAM version is made, that affects this problem, nothing. Those FLUP portals have not changed since their first inclusion in the NAM.

Your quest for the "best" version of NAM to use is ultimately a futile one, the best is and always will be the newest.

[City_Slider 2,716]

I just updates to 39 and testet some Regions... no Problems... till i reinstall the Timbuktu too Region. After this, the "blinking" is back.

i´ll test it once agin.

*EDIT*

I testet some more Regions with the same Result= NAM works. I was wondering, i never got this Problem before. Not in Years.

[rsc204 21,806]

Since you've recently re-installed SC4, it is possible that it's setup differently. The solution would not be to simply keep re-installing the game, that actually makes life harder. For example, you now need to remember to patch it again, along with running the 4GBPatch anew. However, if you only have one GPU, the Intel HD 4600, there isn't likely to be anything you can do about it. You can check this, simply open the Start Menu and type (to search for), "Geräte-Manager" (1). Open this and look under the category "Grafikkarte" (2).

If your system has more than one GPU, it would be listed here. You can also check the date/version of your graphics driver, if it has recently been updated, that might be responsible for the change.

The big change in NAM 37 and later, is that something called the Controller Compiler is no longer automated, just like the 4GB Patch, the old installer just handled this for you. Without running this, the installer must instead give everyone a Full Controller, in other words all the code needed to run every NAM feature. But, if you don't need all the NAM features, this is inefficient and will require more system memory/RAM (Arbeitssprecher). On this post, Tarkus linked to a smaller controller without the RHW (Real Highway) code. Provided you don't intend to use RHW, it may help with the problem, as it is less resource intensive. That said, if the blinking problem was occurring when you tried older versions of NAM, which have much smaller Controllers by default, it's unlikely this is going to have any effect.

[City_Slider 2,716]

Wow,

thanks a lot, that you are translating in German *Thumpsup*.

Guess, i figured it out, where the "Problem" was ;-) ... if im building, checking, zoning or something like that, i do it in "Pause Modus". And at this Time, nothing is blinking. 

I need to say sorry and yes, you where right.

[City_Slider 2,716]

I cant understand it. SimCity is running since about 3 Years on this PC... without any blinking or other Problems. It started by trying to update it. Now the "blinking" stays. Im sure there are some old Grakikcards around who i could us. Or one of our other PC´s. But 1st i´ll give my Laptop a Shoot.

[City_Slider 2,716]

Aha... the blinking think is a Java Problem. Just to let you know. On this Maschin runs the newest Version of Java. Windows 7 dont like it.

[rsc204 21,806]

1 hour ago, City_Slider said:

Aha... the blinking think is a Java Problem.

SimCity 4 doesn't run on or use Java in any way, so there would be no way for it to influence what you are seeing.

[City_Slider 2,716]

New Desk Puter.

Install SC4D... check

Install sku2 Patch... check

Install BAT U2... check

Install NAM... check.

Starting the Game, open a New City and checking the blinking= nothing

Could it be, that i got this blinking by an download?

 

[City_Slider 2,716]

Install the "Must to have"... check

In Game... Blinking? No

Install my Regions... check

In Game... Blinking is back

After deleting the Regions... check... blinking is gone.

Hold on... still testing.

BTW, its still confusing to play SimCity at two Puters ^^

*Edit*

I put the hole Plug in Folder in the Documents at the new Maschine (without the Regions)... check

In Game... no Blinking

Now i try to install the Regions... thats the last Point on the List.

BRB

*EDIT*

After i reinstalled te Regions, the blinking is back. Now i delet em agin and will c whats happend.

BRB

*EDIT*

The blinking is gone. So there is a Problem with one ofe the Regions.

Next Try. I´ll delet the Regions Folder on this Maschine...

BRB

*EDIT* The blinking is still there :-(

[City_Slider 2,716]

Ergo= as long as a wont import a new or played Region, all works well. iF I INSTALL A NEW rEGION LIKE tIMBUKTO TOO; I WON THE bUG:

Sorry about the typing, new Keyboard is on Way.

[City_Slider 2,716]

Problem fixed. Thanks for your attantion.

[City_Slider 2,716]

On 30.12.2020 at 8:44 PM, City_Slider said:

Problem fixed. Thanks for your attantion.

Sure not. I installed SC on 3 PC´s. At all PC´s the same Problem (without an old XP Laptop). But after a while of playing, that blinking think is gone. Wondering why, wondering how...

Have a good Day, Oliver