plopable buildings effect CO$$$ demand?

[jaredhighwindII 4]

i was thinking of plopping all 5 buildings from the new WTC complex in my growing downtown city (of my region). Since they take up space i rather them provide jobs instead of just sitting there and being nice eye candy (they look AMAZINg, thanks to whoever took the time to make them).

 

now if i plopped a building that created 10k CO$$$ jobs, would this effect my overall cities demand for CO$$$ business?

  Edited October 29, 2013 by Cyclone Boom  
-Moved to SimCity 4 General Discussion-

[zombie12 14]

yes it would

[infamousjbe 593]

It'll probably have an effect on the whole region for that matter. 

 

Plopping any building with a high amount of jobs will have an effect on your city. It's good to give a few Sim years between plopping such buildings. This will allow the sim some time to "catch up".

[Mr Saturn64 742]

With plop able landmarks of significance like that, it will make he area of that city better.

[APSMS 1,893]

It's important (if you want to plop jobs and save the simulation) that you wait until you have sufficient demand (via the RCI graph) before you plop the buildings. Else you could cause a recession in your city and screw up the regional demand as well.

 

That being said, it's perfectly fine once you have the demand to plop away; waiting for the simulation to catch up is also a good idea, as it allows the buildings to become occupied. It is worth noting that the building query doesn't actually list the number of people working there, just the available jobs. The actual worker count can be seen in the Route Query Tool; the total number of commuters is the number of actual workers.

[Cyclone Boom 17,016]

Yes, when demand isn't sufficient, plopping high-capacity buildings will create problems. Balancing demand vs supply is most important. If there's not enough supply, the building won't be sustainable, and could lead to abandonment. It'd also eat up your CO$$$ demand. Basically, in this case, you'll need a CO demand greater than 10,000 for it to work.

Anything RCI will impact the demand.

Even though it's a ploppable, the game doesn't really know any different. It treats all RCI buildings the same, assuming they've grown naturally. The demand simulator can't function with such a strong abnormality. In relation, that's why residential ploppables don't work.

You'll probably need to build regional connections to gain a strong commercial demand. This will eventually lead to the growth of stage 7 and 8 skyscrapers. There are a few mods that speed up this transition, such as the XX Turbo.

Otherwise, something else you could try is to plop the landmark versions as placeholders, gaining the visual effect. These wouldn't impact demand, and can always be replaced at a later stage.

[T Wrecks 10,209]

Even though it's a ploppable, the game doesn't really know any different. It treats all RCI buildings the same, assuming they've grown naturally. The demand simulator can't function with such a strong abnormality. In relation, that's why residential ploppables don't work.

In fact, the reason why residential ploppables don't work is that while Sims can enter a ploppable lot like any other one (civic structures with jobs wouldn't work otherwise!) and leave it again, nothing that originates from the lot itself can leave ploppable lots. Once again this is not a problem for civics, because nothing originates there and needs to leave. It is not a problem for commercials, either - same thing. This is why plopped commercials work.

 

It is a minor problem for industry because industry generates freight that's supposed to leave the lot. The time it takes to reach the edge of the map is used to calculate the freight trip length, one of the desirability factors for industry. If the industry has been plopped down, freight trucks will be trapped inside the lot, unable to leave. The freight trip counter will max out, and this desirability factor will be in the negative. However, since there are other factors (crime, garbage, fire coverage, pollution for high-tech), this one is not decisive. It will keep your industry from providing as many jobs as it could, but the buildings can still survive at a decent level.

 

Residentials generate Sims that need to leave the lot. These Sims don't just travel there from somewhere else, they originate right inside the lot. Unable to leave, nobody in the residential building will find a job, and the building will be abandoned as a consequence.

[Cyclone Boom 17,016]

In fact, the reason why residential ploppables don't work is that while Sims can enter a ploppable lot like any other one (civic structures with jobs wouldn't work otherwise!) and leave it again, nothing that originates from the lot itself can leave ploppable lots.

Very interesting, thanks for the insight. Figured it was because of some abnormality. But always wondered about the exact mechanics of why they don't function.

Anyway back to ploppable commercials...

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Well, I think that is settled now.  Ploppable C does raise the dickens with your demands, and it takes the simulation a while to recover from a big one.  The ABC rule applies in this game as it does in life.  Always Be Careful.