The SimCity 5 Thread (Formerly "Is SimCity 5 Ever Coming Out?").

[sly-f0x 0]

scs is rubbish.wat they need to do is make a sc5 or wat evr the hell they want 2 call it and make it like sc4 just improved.

[JakeMD 107]

That was a bit harsh. Maxis is done with SimCity, I don't know why we are all getting our hopes up

Cities XL is the new simcity.

[Robstersfive 0]

Nope looks like EA truely are clueless bunch of idiots just raving on that yes still alive with sc3000 ported to the crappy Iphone 

Copy paste link the guy asks EA directly if there be a SC5 and surely it didnt die back 2003, his responce from the EA women is very very depressing lol

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=56894 

listen to them avoid the question very depressing guys Cities XL mayb the future but how sad to see iconic series end like this, EA to corperate Maxis was a small team used to care about its fans, Even spore was a bit of a joke really

[choco1 4]

Well, I shall be watching for Cities XL keenly as it frankly is looking fantastic. It is true that SCS was a slightly misguided attempt by EA to broaden the appeal of the franchise and so in the mean time I'll continue to play SC4 as it remains a thoroughly enjoyable game.

But look, we were all surprised about the announcement of Simcity Societies. I think we may well be surprised in the future with another, hopefully more welcome, announcement from EA.

[BuggUla 405]

I agree... keeping fingers crossed.

[wozzar 154]

Originally posted by: R600 Does anyone actually know why EA came out with SimCity Societies? The game is a load of rubbish. quote>

Because EA saw this $$. They were hoping to cash in on the casual gamer and also the players who play the Sims would buy it. But as we all know it didnt turn out like that and it was a flop.

[Patricius Maximus 236]

Nope looks like EA truely are clueless bunch of idiots just raving on that yes still alive with sc3000 ported to the crappy Iphone 

Copy paste link the guy asks EA directly if there be a SC5 and surely it didnt die back 2003, his responce from the EA women is very very depressing lol

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=56894 

listen to them avoid the question very depressing guys Cities XL mayb the future but how sad to see iconic series end like this, EA to corperate Maxis was a small team used to care about its fans, Even spore was a bit of a joke really quote>

Start rant.

EA has no concept of Simcity, or what it is, or how to make a Simcity 5. From the interview, they simply view it as a vehicle for imagined profit, a brand to be slapped on an inferior product without a thought.

EA should, like many other businesses, stop thinking about short-term profit maximizing and think about their long-term sustainable profits, as that is what keep a company afloat. Simcity 4 has actually outsold Simcity Societies since a few months after the release (and the termination of the "new release" bias all people have). Simcity 4 has been more profitable than SCS will ever be, and they do not realize it in their own delusional, artificial reality they have created for themselves to exist in.

Listen to your customers, EA. Create a product which they will love when they get it, when they play it, and especially 6 years into the future when they play it, like Simcity 4, Simcity 3000, and Simcity 2000. For comparison, compare the profit generated from Simcity Classic, 2000, 3000, and 4 with the profit generated from all of your inferior spin-offs, which are far more numerous. It is obvious. The superior games created more money for you, and you should get back on the road to long-term profitability.

End rant.

That is my honest opinion of EA and how they have handled their acquisition (p.k.a. Maxis). Their sole goal is to generate the most cash as quickly as possible, which means they overhype an inferior product. This is a road to bankruptcy, and it will serve them right to dissolve.

[mproca 0]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4749/simcity5sc001lz4.png

I'm sorry to ask but from what game is this picture? i know it's not an sc5 picture but it looks great.

[The_sanderson 6]

I think it

[killercereal0104 0]

I believe that EA is a piece of crap company that doesnt care about there customers. They only care fore themselfs and money. I also don't get why they don't listen to there coustomers, I mean if we buy there games, than why don't they ask us what we want and make games better. EA should also take more time in creating there games. If the spent more time making the game than more people would buy and play the game, instead of buying the game, try to install it, realize there computer can't run it, than either throw it away, sell it or give to a friend. Either way EA should come out with a SC5 that is very versitile. If a SC5 game is created, than it should be able to turn the graphics down enough that it could be played on old computers. The game should also support great graphics, so when people with good computers play it they can experience it in high detail. Some people might not know this already, but Flight SimX can be played with such amazing graphics that the best computers in the world have trouble playing it. But....... it is also compatable with computers that aren't as great. What do you guys think?????

[JakeMD 107]

Now now, EA isn't that bad I don't think that was the purpose of this thread...

[CCFC 0]

Maybe they will bring the canceled game called 'Simsville' back where you can build a city and run peoples life's at the same time, then The Sims and SimCity fans would get everything they want. I know I would enjoy it, and then they don't need to develop SimCity and The Sims anymore but just Simsville and they would pay less to make it and get more money.

[Jezus53 18]

I can't believe no one has brought this up. All of you are saying that SimCity 4 is out selling Sim Societies, even today! So if I were to think of that from EA's perspective, I would think this. "Okay, we have product that has been out for 6 years and is outselling one of our newest products. That means that the older product is still lucrative and doesn't require any updating." It's all about economics and logic. I'm pretty sure you've heard you're dad or grandfather say this, "If it isn't broke, don't fix it." (improper English and everything) I agree that a SimCity 5 is needed because of reasons such as diagonal bridges and improved graphics.

As for everyone saying that SC4 still crashes computers today, what computers are you buying? I had a Gateway with I think 1 ghz processor and 512 mb ram and it ran fine. Hell, it ran it just as good as my computer now and it's easily 4 times better. But that's just my experience.

[killercereal0104 0]

I still think that EA should create sc5 that has adjustable graphics so old and new computers can play it. That would be the best option

[1ajs 49]

Originally posted by: Jezus53 I can't believe no one has brought this up. All of you are saying that SimCity 4 is out selling Sim Societies, even today! So if I were to think of that from EA's perspective, I would think this. "Okay, we have product that has been out for 6 years and is outselling one of our newest products. That means that the older product is still lucrative and doesn't require any updating." It's all about economics and logic. I'm pretty sure you've heard you're dad or grandfather say this, "If it isn't broke, don't fix it." (improper English and everything) I agree that a SimCity 5 is needed because of reasons such as diagonal bridges and improved graphics.

As for everyone saying that SC4 still crashes computers today, what computers are you buying? I had a Gateway with I think 1 ghz processor and 512 mb ram and it ran fine. Hell, it ran it just as good as my computer now and it's easily 4 times better. But that's just my experience.quote>

the dual core cpu's and sc4 don't mix to well and cause conflics and theres some issues with vista. but hey if one wants to make sc4 run good just pic up an old amd 2600 and get 2 gigs of ram for it and a old vid card say a ati 9600 or a nvidia 5200 lol

[Msprintz 25]

Originally posted by: 1ajs

the dual core cpu's and sc4 don't mix to well and cause conflics and theres some issues with vista. but hey if one wants to make sc4 run good just pic up an old amd 2600 and get 2 gigs of ram for it and a old vid card say a ati 9600 or a nvidia 5200 lolquote>

Really? must be a system specific problem I guess.  This of course is based on the fact that SC4 runs like a charm( on a quad core setup with 4 gigs of ram and 1 gig Nvidia 9800 card). 

Only issues are usually related to NAM puzzle pieces that can sometimes cause a CTD, and that's rare as I exercise caution when using them and save often. 

There might eventually be a true sequel to Sim City 4, only question remains when( if a sequel is ever to be in the works).   Right now my moneys on Monte Cristo, as they seem to be getting everything in gear at the right time to give EA a big blow.  Our only hope is to see how EA responds, and what it means to the future of Sim City.   

[1ajs 49]

sc4 loves to crash on me even with out custom content

[shortie221272 0]

Societies IS Sim City 5.... and it is a disaster in my opinion. There is no continuity in the series... just a way to put the Sims in there.

My honest opinion

[FrobozzDaMad 0]

@1ajs: SimCity4 has serious problems with some multi-core CPUs. There is an easy fix though. Launch the game. Let it load to the region screen. Hit Ctl-Alt-Delete and bring up the Task Manager. Click the "Processes" tab. Find "SimCity4.exe" in the list. Rt-click and choose "Set Affinity". You'll see CPU# for each core you have. UNCHECK all but 1 (I usually leave the highest numbered one checked). Apply.

Also, it helps sometimes to go into "Set Priority" and choose "Above Normal" or even "High". I wouldn't ever choose "Realtime" as it can really mess your system up.

Click back to the game, you should be rock-steady now!

Here's something I'm curious about. I think it's pretty obvious EA has abandoned the SimCity franchise as a highly detailed city-simulation game. Has anyone expressed interest of developing an actual SimCity style game-engine from scratch? The concepts of the game engine aren't terribly hard to understand: You have a grid, you populate it with exemplars which are your base "object types". These exemplars do different things. Some represent networks, some represent sections of lots, etc. Meanwhile, you have background processes running mass calculations on this network of exemplars to figure things out like education, pollution, traffic density, desirability, etc.

Keep the goals reasonable such as "reproduce the SimCity4 game engine, maintain backwards compatibility for all standard sc4lot, sc4desc and sc4model file structures" and expand from there. The long-term advantage would be the community of hardcore city-builder fans like us would have a set of engine-source with which to develop off of, bug-fix, maintain for future operating systems and hardware and slowly work in new features. You could for example optimize the graphics engine for modern video hardware, or compile it for 64-bit native systems to take advantage of monster amounts of RAM, or break up the background calculations to different threads to take advantage of multi-core CPUs, Things like dropping in a new transport network would be cake at that point.

[Patricius Maximus 236]

Originally posted by: shortie221272

Societies IS Sim City 5.... and it is a disaster in my opinion. There is no continuity in the series... just a way to put the Sims in there.

My honest opinionquote>

Yes, Societies is the fifth game released [at least masquerading] as a Simcity. It is the chronological successor to Simcity 4, but is it the successor...

Numerically? No.

In Substance? No.

In Spirit? No.

If you wish to have a successor to Simcity 4 (i.e. Simcity 5), in spirit and in substance, look for Cities XL.

[City2TheMax 3]

I don't know why they think it's so hard to create a Simcity 5

All that would be nice to see would be improved graphics, simple fixes to the game engine itself, expanded traffic control, and I would be happy

[cubenax 2]

Originally posted by: City2TheMax

I don't know why they think it's so hard to create a Simcity 5

All that would be nice to see would be improved graphics, simple fixes to the game engine itself, expanded traffic control, and I would be happyquote>

I personally feel, that, with the STEX and other SC4 content exchanges, the game is great. I don't see much more room for improvement. 

[eternal_sky 0]

I've been a diehard fan for years, and I personally was rather disappointed when Societies came out due to the fact it lacked a majority of the elements found in previous SC titles.

I've started a petition to EA to show the number of dedicated fans who would like to see a "SimCity 5" put into development.

There are rumors all over the net about one coming out in 2012, and if that is the case we'd like to let them know beforehand what features WE the players would like to see.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/simcity5-petition

Hope we can count on your support!

Now for the skeptics who are sure petitions DON'T work.

I've found they do when you get people to sign them LOL.

But seriously, with the other three petitions I've counted so far on the net, I can conclude they failed because:

1. There really was no direction or intent. By that I mean the mission simply stated to EA to make a new SC for the simple fact that "Societies SUCKS".

In the petition I've created, I've began a letter, politely explaining the intent of the petition. As signature increase I will continue working on it.

2. No publicity. In another petition I've found (which I believe is on the Simtropolis forums sowhere if I'm not mistaken), has roughly 2,500 signatures. And thats it.

In order to spread the word, I'm starting groups EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!

~ Social Networks - Facebook, MySpace, Yahoo! Groups

~ Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games (MMORPGs) - Second Life, There, Eve Online, World of Warcraft

If you think about it, out of the thousands of players, there has to be a handful of SimCity Gamers.

And finally, good old fashioned word of mouth (word of mouse in this case LOL).

If you go on YouTube and search under SimCity, you'll find thousands of SC fans with videos or commenting on videos. I've already begun sending informing them about the petion and it's objective.

Slowly but surely, it's catching interest. I mean it's only been two days.

And we all know Rome wasn't built in one. Well, maybe if Romulus & Remus were playing SC all day LOL.

And finally, the Students.

I happen to be Architecture/Urban Design student. I didn't necessarily come to this career conclusion with out a little extra influence if you catch my drift. I'm hoping I can reach others who were influenced like myself at universities across the world for support as well.

I'm sure many of you think I'm absolutely mad now.

I prefer seeing the glass half full, not empty lol.

To finally conclude this rant, let me say once again, that I hope we (other hardcore SC fans and myself) can count on your support.

Heres the link again

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/simcity5-petition

[pete1061 0]

Let us bow our heads for the passing of a once great franchise....

Quite honestly, I wouldn't want a Sim City 5. not one made by maxis and published by EA.

Look at what maxis has done in recent years.... SCS, Spore. They have become puppets of EA making games watered down for 'casual' gamers. All they care about is big hyped up release numbers. EA poisons everything they touch.

Personally, I refuse to buy any EA products after the disappointment of spore.

EA is too big.

I have a lot of optimism for Cities XL.

[saloja7 0]

This reminds me from another game series that I love to play - Heroes of Might and Magic.

Briefly the game series goes like this (in my opinion):

Heroes of Might and Magic (I) - Good

Heroes of Might and Magic II - Great

Heroes of Might and Magic III - Magnificent!

Heroes of Might and Magic IV - Huge disaster

Heroes of Might and Magic V - Magnificent!

Perhaps the Sim City Societies is the "huge disaster" and the next one will be again magnificent. Hopefully.

[killercereal0104 0]

hopefully the next sim city whatever its called will be that magnificent after the disaster. eather way i dont think that ea is going to make a new sim city for a long time. there too busy with spore sims and other games

[killercereal0104 0]

hey what about this idea.... in a city there can be resources like oil, iron, coal, and even gems that your city can to other citys for money, but when those resources run out you there is no more selling that item. But on a negative note to that to run a coal power plant you have to mine or impot fuel.

[rainyday 2]

Okay Guys. For the last time, Maxis is done with Simcity, actually Maxis is done altogether, it no longer exists, not even as a subsidiary of EA. Simcity 5 is never coming out and in my opinion, all of the modds and downloads from all of the SC4 fansites make up SC5. This thread is pointless because it has been told time and time again that the game will not come out.

I'd just like to voice my opinion on this.

-Rainyday

[CLR95 11]

If the thread is pointless then why were you reading it?

[mproca 0]

it's simcity = zoning for RCI ?

it is still possible to have a SC5 in the next 10 years... let's hope at least we have an SC4.5. better and better with each plugin

about SC5 it's a bit hard to create. even for the fans. why? let's see the huge sys req of SCS !!!

next.... they need a new 3d engine

next.... it is a little too hard to make 3d models for all those roads, streets, avenues, one-ways, highways, ground highways, rails, rails, monorails, trams, etc..... it takes some time to make roads and highways to look good enough! only roads and highways....

next.... the buildings won't take too much time nor the trees and other stuff.

next.... game optimization....

the only pb may be.... the system requirements. biggest cities with high details and high resolution need a lot of computer power. and people doesn't have enough money to buy this power so the sales of this game may be low. building a game with such a great power hungry also need powerfull machines.... costs.... then the electric bill will also be high.... costs so it is profitable to launch SC5 now? I don't think so. And the SC4 is still great!!! and they are also some similar games: city life, citiesxl... so SC5 won't appear too soon sorry.