Detroit?

[rbdetsport 0]

This is a little off topis for this subforum, but does anyone out there have a city made to be Detroit. I really want to see how someone built Detroit. I can't wait until the Barry Sanders Project is finished so I can build Detroit.

[abyrd23 0]

the truth is that no one wants to do any cities in the mid west because they SUCK. the only cities that get made are popluar or sunny cities. i can tell you first hand because im from the mid west and no one is yet to make a great city recreation outside of indianapolis and chicago.

 

-aaron

[+Guest]

I've found that too.  I'm currently working on a recreation of Joliet, Illinois.  I'm having trouble with some of the street layout and I have a lot of landmarks to get, but it's on it's way.  Anyone familiar with the Joliet area ?

[Jasoncw 11,841]

There are too many diagonals in Detroit to really do it, and the only downtown landmark that is on the stex is my Free Press Building, which really isn't that much of a landmark. I do have a city with parts of downtown gridded out using satelite maps for scale, but the only part that really works is around lower woodward where it is a grid. And the lots downtown are convieniently divisible by 16 meters too. Someone is doing a city called hockeytown, but it looks more like miami than anything else, lol. I think there is a lack of old american city journals, personally. I have a city on my computer that I might make into a cj though.

[Goin2Chicago 4]

joshua28, i'm framiliar with joliet, me and my dad go to The Hill almost every saturday to get some good Mexican food. I live on the West side of Bolingbrook and every day on my way to school i look at all the stuff I see and imagine how it would look in Sim City. i do that almost anywere i go, speacially when i go to Chicago.

[nycsc4 5,250]

Originally posted by: abyrd23

the truth is that no one wants to do any cities in the mid west because they SUCK. the only cities that get made are popluar or sunny cities. i can tell you first hand because im from the mid west and no one is yet to make a great city recreation outside of indianapolis and chicago.

-aaron

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where do you live?  Because i can tell you first hand that St. Louis does not suck.  And i have also never seen Indianapolis or Chicago on this site. 

[tchaos713 5]

There have been a couple Chicagos, but I think the scale usually chases people away. Most do not have the patience of someone like ejc (New York, now Paris).

Every once in a while I get a hankering to do Louisville, KY (where I live), but I would have to do far too much batting to make the city look proper.

[newyorkstate 6]

Originally posted by: abyrd23

the truth is that no one wants to do any cities in the mid west because they SUCK. the only cities that get made are popluar or sunny cities. i can tell you first hand because im from the mid west and no one is yet to make a great city recreation outside of indianapolis and chicago.</P>

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<DIV>-aaron</DIV>quote>

Wow, that was a bit harsh..... but you're right!

[Daddy-O 1]

Midwest cities do NOT suck. What do you base this on - Gary, Indiana?

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Well, you seem to have found yourself some fine new territory. I assume you have a good editor like Photoshop or the GIMP. To make your city, scan in a topographical or a road map, place it in the background in your editor and do your greyscale jpg on a layer or two on top of it.

Photosuite will, for sure, write the layers out as separate files, so you can then go from there to suck the file into the game in the usual way.

If you want assistance setting up the region use the Landscape Designer to verify your map and build your config.bmp file. A lot cheaper than doing it all manually.

[s1977 0]

I can't argue with the general idea about Detroit and the midwestern US.

I would, however, enjoy the ability to use Detroit landmarks and buildings in the game.

Here's a short, off-the-top-of-the-head list for anyone to consider for construction:

1. The General Motors Renaissance Center - this is the world HQ for GM, located right on the Detroit River. I've noticed some nice add-on HQ rewards from what I picked up from the talented folks off the STEX . . . BellSouth and Coca Cola HQ come to mind. If anyone wanted to do the GM Ren Cen, it would be neat to have it done in similar reward style. The lot, essentially, would be expanded from a normal skyscraper lot . . . it's a main cylinder tower with multiple towers that surround it. Link w/photos here: http://www.buildingphotos.com/detroit/DE-rencen.shtml Plus, a solid wiki link here (for description): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_Center - the wiki link reports 8,000 workers for the GM Ren Cen, so that should be the comparable figure for a landmark w/jobs.

2. and 3. Joe Louis Fist & Spirit of Detroit - of all the landmarks in the link to follow, the Joe Louis Fist is probably the most famous, in my opinion. 2nd on the list (and most famous, according to the article from the link) is the Spirit of Detroit monument. You can view Detroit's landmark monuments here:

4. Hart Plaza - Before the subterranean modds, this large, mostly concrete park would not have been possible. As of today, it can be done. Hart Plaza is best known to electronic music fans as the site of the DEMF/Movement/Fuse electronic music festival. Hart Plaza features the Dodge Fountain monument, so it could be created as a dual park/landmark. The park Hart Plaza is best understood from an aerial view, and the best way to get the general shape (for all buildings, really) is through Google Maps. The address to search is 1 Hart Plz, Detroit, MI 48226. The satellite image of the park comes up well . . . the Dodge Fountain is the tiny cylinder in the middle of the large concrete area. Towards the street, to the n/w, is the subterranean bowl is located, which is the main stage for the music festival. The plaza itself is somewhat of a river walk, too. The shape of the park is irregular, but anyone who would do this park could get away with squaring the shape. Hart Plaza would be a fantastic seaside park/landmark for any city with canals/rivers. Links to photos in the park: http://pubnix.org/~mikeyd/pics/demf2000/detroitart001.JPG (<-- dodge fountain) + http://www.thed.us/hartplaza.htm (various photos) + ( (<--subterranean stage area, the bowl) + (<-- closeup aerial of plaza on a parade day)

5. Cobo Center ( link: http://www.cobocenter.com/ ) - this complex was host to a number of Super Bowl 40 festivities. from L-R, Cobo, Hart Plaza, and the GM Ren Cen rest along the river. The link has an interactive floor plan for the Cobo.

6. Campus Martius Park ( link: http://www.campusmartiuspark.org/ ) - the city has focused in recent years on this park as the 'signature landmark' of Detroit. In the winter, the park hosts ice skating.

Notes on construction of a SEMI/Ontario region . . .

Detroit is difficult to grid because it follows a street design similar to Washington, D.C.'s circular pattern. Woodward is the main city street, and it radiates from the river to the n/w . . . there are a few diagonal streets, but anyone looking to attempt Detroit won't be able to do the circular streets near the epicenter (Woodward, Jefferson, and the river). North of the city, starting at it's city limit, the suburbs of Detroit follow an easier pattern. Numerous e/w streets are named 8 mile/baseline (city limit boulevard), 9 mile, 10, mile, and so on into the 30s, progressive from Detroit's city limit northward. The city of Detroit almost goes hand-in-hand with the city of Windsor in Ontario. The cities are connected by the Ambassador Bridge and the Windsor tunnel. The city of Detroit is generally considered as an urban renewal state, given the vast amount of western Detroit remaining in early-20th Century decay. That land is mostly turn of the 20th, and it's littered with older houses and crumbling industrial. The western side of Detroit and the suburbs are generally unremarkable and easily left open for creative urban planners. The city itself does not have a reliable mass transit, either, so there is plenty of room for improvement. The general reason, in my opinion, for lack of mass transit in a metro area which holds over 3 million people . . . the city flourished under the automotive companies, so the lack of mass transit served to keep the automobile as a necessity to move around the area. In this age, the auto companies do not have the clout they once enjoyed, so the scenario is wide open for creative minds.

I hope some of this information may be helpful to those who are interested.

[marryescher 0]

Is1977- Im pretty sure I just saw the Joe Louis fist on the STEX, or maybe it was  on the CD you get for donating $20. Im not possitive though.

[sim1234 62]

s1977: If you place this request in the Official BAT Request Thread which is here, it will have more chance of being fulfilled.

[usad25 0]

Mid west citys don't suck. There just in the shadow of ther big greater ones. But I too would like to get a detroit region/city. I live about 50 miles west of the suburbs.

[ILL Tonkso 1,237]

Recreation Cities are hard to do, i tried recreating Portsmouth and London and its just not possiblem to many diagonals and curves to be made realisticly.

[tankmank 853]

i agre ill

[Simfan34 11]

I do wish that it was possible to do detroit,as I am obssessed with it (but don't live there) but the game's design doesn't allow of Judge Woodward's plan to go though

[usad25 0]

Where do you live?

[Simfan34 11]

NYC

[usad25 0]

You live in new york but you are obbesed with detriot? Well thats a first. I thought everybody thought new york was the greatest...... well I think it would be totally awesome to go there.

[fate556 5]

new york sucks i live in staten new york and i cant wait to move to canada hoensty there not much here except tons and tons of people , huge buidlings and not to mention rude people

[usad25 0]

Yeah but I think that I would still love to go there. I mean yeah I guess there is a lot of negitives but its been my dream city to visit.

[Silvercherry 0]

The reason no one does Midwestern cities is because they are almost all bland and unexciting. From someone who has lived in Michigan all his life, I very much prefer making cities like Miami or Los Angeles than something like Cleveland or Detroit.

[usad25 0]

Hey welcome to Simtrop

Well at least Michigan citys are'nt as polluted as Los Angeles. Or they don't have as much Traffic and Smog as Los Angeles has. Oh yeah and its not as expensive as LA. Now I'm not saying that LA's horrible, I'm just bringin' up the plus's and negitives's.

[Wlvrn567 0]

I am trying to handmake Metro Detroit right now and I have just started first on the Southern suburbs, because thats where all the industry is in Detroit bassically. I can't wait to do the northwestern suburbs in Oakland County because i grew up in Farmington Hills and I loved it there.

[Flumes 3]

Originally posted by: tchaos713 There have been a couple Chicagos, but I think the scale usually chases people away. Most do not have the patience of someone like ejc (New York, now Paris).

Every once in a while I get a hankering to do Louisville, KY (where I live), but I would have to do far too much batting to make the city look proper.quote>

 

I visited Lousville recently and I really liked it.  I don't know it well enough to try it tho, you should

Wlvrn, I used to live in Clarkston in Oakland County.  WONDERFUL AREA!!!  Good luck with Detroit!!!  I am trying to do Cleveland, but it isn't going to well, I really actually want to do all of NE Ohio, Cuhoyga National Park would be Awesome!!!  Akron would be cool to.  BAT NFL Hall of Fame for Canton, ohh yes, I could def. make it cool, but its very tough.

[Wlvrn567 0]

thats cool

[paperboy15 4]

I don't find recreating cities interesting (if I'm doing it), but I do enjoy seeing what others accomplish while attempting this. So, props to whoever may try Detroit!

v v v v   I noticed! It just wasn't necessary to mention that.

[SC4Noobie 5]

It's hard to believe that this thread has been brought back twice, and no one noticed...

[A Nonny Moose 8,261]

Originally posted by: SC4Noobie It's hard to believe that this thread has been brought back twice, and no one noticed...quote>

Depends on what you mean by an old thread.  We really aren't very keen on resurrecting threads that are too old, but this seems current in the last year or so.