simmars-forum-threads Sim Mars, a SC4 Conversion

[phungus420 0]

That's exactly what I'm saying Redlotus. It just seems to me that we have increadible modding power that we should apply, and alot of changes could be made easily to radically alter the game, and make it more of a mars colony game. Also the suggestions I made would still keep the genre as a sim building game, just allow us to have a more SimMars feel. As is I havn't read anything that's practical that would really give this project that magical touch. I'll go look for a thread on this type of brainstorming related to the project.

Alos I've been offline for quite sometime, and I didn't see when you got on the mod squad redlotus, but a belated congradulations is in order. So good job, and you deserve it, I definatly saw you making some great contributions.

[simmax 0]

So this project is on its way... Hmm. I didn't believe in Sim Mars at first, but I should have done so. I still won't support the project, I'll wait and see how it turns out. I don't care much about playing SC on another planet, but this project is one word : GREAT. Maybe 2 : HUGE. https://community.simtropolis.com/assets/emoticons/24.gif>https://community.simtropolis.com/assets/emoticons/24.gif>

[GouRou 2]

yeah, we KNOW how to turn the game on it's head. but how many years are you willing to invest to change it so radically? it's nice to think of all of this modding, but the time element seems to have slipped your mind. we dont have a lot of modders, we have a lot of everything else tho. modding is the one place on the game where we can do the least. it will take long enough just to do what we HAVE to do.

[ForesterSC4 0]

The aircraft will have to be hovercraft type vehicals etc powered by anti-gravity and or magnetic repulsion. The fule can be the discovery of how to use it of anti-mater by the renowned Mars scientest Doctor djlaf jfljflsj jdasfjjl.

[GouRou 2]

heh, 50 years, not 500. fuel will probably be hydrogen all around, or some other equally easy to make fuel. most personally vehicles will be simple ground crawlers, high speed vehicles may be faster versions, dunno yet, but for sure it wont be anti-gravity. trains are maglev, we are working on those as I post this.

[ForesterSC4 0]

For linking Earth and Mars you could make a stargate like the program so items can go to/from Earth/Mars.

The tube idea over all the roasa is great for using the game ideas just modified. On the cost of this you could keep the road cost the same but add a prep of making the tube first. This could be paid for by a combination of Mars taxes and funds from Earth.

[GaryGerbrandt 6]

You should try to get kd5rax on the project.

 

Gad, the Petronas towers on Mars... sweeeettt...

[renzore 0]

THIS IS A GREAT IDEA! would some1 please continue on with this idea and make something and here are my ideas for the mod.....
1.Cars with oval shaped bodies like oxygen pumpes on the back and no wheels instead or just some types of trains
2.futuristic looking buildings with pumps and pipes and things
3.Super solar power plant
4.instead of roads like big tubes for cars or trains and sims to walk through
5.Water pump with a huge facility that takes deep mars ice called ice aquaifiers and converts it into water for the populace
6. instead of trees could be rocks
7. for landmarks could be ancient alien artifacts and such
8.instead of airports space stations with some type of space shuttle instead of air planes
9.if possible some type of large dome to enclose entire city like a man made atmosphere
and there ya have it for now[:0]

[ABCD12345 1]

Cool Project  Sim Mars.

 

BTW i like to see flying cars.

[MC6Ash 4]

NO flying cars... please.

[eroseu 0]

This is going to be a bit long, but i think it's worth.

One of the things that people care most about simcity4 is reality, so i think a sim mars without reality would be condemned to failure. As i'm an engineer i know some things about physics, things that applyies in earth as in mars.

1 - Transportation:
this is one of the most important features in simcity4 so is one of the most important things that really has to have reality.
so i've heard about fastest roads and streets, but people forgets that as long as there is less gravity on mars, there is also less traction and so it's dificult to acelerate. Even more dificult would be to stop when hiting the brakes. So i think that streets should be made of dirt, but with normal costs as soil in mars is very rocky and had to be clean. this streets should have very slow speeds (even slower than earth streets) and would run normaly (without any tubes). Roads would also have slower speeds but higher cost due to tubes. Avenues could be inside tubes and have normal speeds but higher cost due to being made of magnetic iron witch could atract cars to the soil making them stable.
Mag-lev trains would be the principal transportation feature in mars. People would go to work every thay in mass transit and only rich people would have cars and only to recreation. Normal trains would go in tubes and only for freigth pourposes.

2 - Industry:
Agricultural plays here one of the most important roles. Hidrophonics could provide food to the population and work kind of earth.
Dirty industry would be most mining stuf. But polution can't be smoke, as there is no atmosfere in mars, so it could be in garbage only.
High tec would be normal like on earth.

3 - Residence:
Never forget that people have to be provided air as much as power and water. lots of posters wanted to change power into air. I think it have to be added, it can't be substitued.

4 - Commerce:
This is a major problem. In simcity4 comerce growths due to traffic volume. But if we are going to avoid leaving our homes in cars, i think something has to be changed.

5 - Services:
Schools, hospitals, police, fire services, and all have to be present as on earth. People are people and the needs remain.
Like on earth power has to be provided in very the same way. But a new thing would be air. As my opinion air should be provided like power, and a building canot growth without it. As for power sorces, one things has be kept in mind, as there is no atmosfere in mars that canot be burners, no coal, no oil, etc. As there is no air there is no wind also. But what could be arranged is that a coal or oil power sorce should be provided with air in order to burn.

This is getting long and the ideas keep flowing, but here stays my contribution.

[octopus7 33]

what about those trucks in the I,robot film, they are definetly awesome, i also like how the vehicles use spheres instead of tyres for improved steering, and mag-lev trains could also be seen, and while i'm on about the film, i'm amazed no ones made a BAT of the U.S robotics tower, that would be a mission and a half, LOL

[S.A.A 0]

Personally, I think transportation should all revolve around trains/maglevs on Mars.

I would imagine if you wanted to terraform Mars, you would want to try and keep Mars as clean as possible with non-polluting forms of transportation and industry. After all, terraforming Mars would take a lot of time and by the time Mars becomes completely terraformed, people would start wanting more high-tech, low polluting jobs and forms of energy and transportation.

Although I guess another form of transportation could be through tubes, ala Futurama.

[Techleo 18]

Well technicaly pollution is exactly what you want. On a massive order. Co2 being a greenhouse gas is a excelent warming gas. Nitrogen as well is useful since it increases pressure. Not that youd want all sorts of pollution. Reealisticaly tho asteriods are the best source of gases and such. That of mining the atmosphere of Jupiter and Saturn. All of which is theorecticaly feasible and within our material means.

[S.A.A 0]

From what I remember, NASA wants to use satellites to direct light from the Sun directly on to polar ice caps on Mars and eventually have fungi grow in the water (pond scum, etc.) to produce oxygen and whatnot. Of course, this plan could have changed since this is what I remember hearing maybe 5-6 years ago.

The thing is, pollution couldnt be used on Mars anyway. Mars doesnt have a magnetosphere so solar winds would be able to erode the atmosphere of greenhouse gases. One possible workaround would be to pump out more greenhouse gases than the winds take away. Problem is, volcanoes would probably be the only way to outpace the solar winds (since this is on a global scale). Unless it becomes possible to artificially erupt volcanoes (like Olympus Mons), it is going to be very hard to produce a livable atmosphere for Mars (unless people dont mind living on a planet that averages 55 C below zero ).

[orishavit 1]

Date: 8/30/2004 10:04:52 PM
Author: S.A.A
Unless it becomes possible to artificially erupt volcanoes

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Sure you can do this, God Mode => Disaster => Volcano => Choose a location!

[S.A.A 0]

Heh, if it were only possible to make bigger volcanoes. The ones we have now are puny.

[orishavit 1]

I guess it's possible, but I'm afraid that's not my department...

[monkeylover2004 0]

I have an idea for Power... Its a little evil but bear with me!

How about a Matrix style powerplant. A massive farm of towers holding cubicles with people in. The Robots in Matrix fed off the power from these millions of people, maybe other people could too?

Come on guys!!!! If you dont do it, i will try lol.

[Boris225 1]

LOL, you might want to try that one yourself.

Besides, we already voted on our final power plants list...

[seas123 0]

is this just to make SimCity 4 look like mars?  Doesnt seem that logical.

[SIMpleton 2]

Sitting in front of a computer for hours at a time building virtual cities doesn't seem that logical either.

This is a mod for the love of the game, picking up the concept of SimMars after Maxis dropped it.

[TheCrybKeeper 300]

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Well, after reading this, a second time. More in detail as I should have I have come to another not so final conlusion. SimMars is an exiting idea and all I can do is make custom textures. anybody want some I will make it and post it in Officail texture thread.

 

If not? no problem. I am humbled and will shut my mouth now.