Large residential zone using ctrl don't develop...

[sillyfreshdj 1]

I'll start by saying that i love this site and all the plugins kick a**!

Recently i learned that if i use the ctrl key while zoning i can make one big zone easily, instead of doing the very tedious 3x3 lots etc etc. So i circle the streets around the area i want to make residential, lets say 9X9 or something. Then i hold ctrl and plop my residential zone in there. Now for some reason this zone will NEVER develop.... I open one of my larger cities with high res. demand and try it there, and it still never develops. Why would it even give me the option to make a zone that large if nothing will ever happen? 

Thanks everyone, keep up the great work with the site!

[LironTheChick 20]

Because none or only a few lots are as wide as your 9x9 zone.

[earwax_man 18]

4x4s work better, the reason why it won't work, is that there's no buildings that size. Maybe get CAM, there are huge buildings with that.

[sillyfreshdj 1]

Thanks for the replies. Guess my question was obvious. Hey, what is CAM?

[shanghai kid 6]

I think the biggest lot/bat that has been made is 6x6, i'm not sure if it's Residental, Comercial or Industry but i think it's for all of them, as i've got develepmont on both 5x5 and 6x6 & even on 5x4, 6x4 so you just have to test the differrent sizes to see what develops.

Ps: Also check both the "stex" and "csxlex" over at sc4devotion.com, and maybe you can find these larger lots/bats + as @earwax_man says getting CAM is a good idea too.

[TekindusT 3,809]

CAM stands for Colossus Addon Mod, and enlarges the building stage, from 8 to 15, adding seven more growing stages. Buildings with stages higher than 8 are called CAMeLots, and they work as normal buildings, but they are skyscrapers and, in some cases, supertall structures. Here, in Simtropolis, CAM is not very popular; in SC4Devotion's LEX you can download the CAM and a bunch of CAMeLots and in the SC4D there are the specific threads talking about CAM.

[His Divine Hand 244]

It should be noted that custom content creator Bixel has created several residential 'megalots' that may be around that size. I might suggest you search for his work on the STEX.

[earwax_man 18]

I have a video of my cities before and after CAM, this is it:

Why wouldn't it be popular? Itmakes city buildings so much more varied

[jmusacha 2]

Thats because 7x7 is way too big a "footprint" for any residential buildings.  The largest I have had any luck with is 6x6 and that is only for commercial zoning (it builds a shopping mall). 

[doorknob60 11]

Originally posted by: earwax_man

I have a video of my cities before and after CAM, this is it:

Why wouldn't it be popular? Itmakes city buildings so much more varied

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Yeah, CAM made my cities much better Id you're willing to install all the base CAM buildings with their dependencies (technically not required, but you shoulkd do it). CAM is great.

[Cougar2004 127]

Just to ensure some balance to the discussion...

I think playing the game might be better without the CAM for many of us. UDI missions are very difficult with such tall buildings where you cant see where you are going. And when everything is so big, it looks cluttered, and hard to enjoy the aesthetics, hard to see the ground level activity, and difficult to query specific buildings of interest.

Perhaps if there was a new "cam-zoning" option (a purple zone) to just place a 10x10 or 12x12 area to selected parts of a city (where we want massive growth), and yet still keep all else normal, I think that would be a good balance. Then I could set my city centers for a few blocks of some cities to CAM-growth. But due to these usage concerns, I currently prefer playing the game clear of the cam, and since i cant just turn it on and off with a plop tool. It is an excellent choice if you want mega growth though. I seek more out of the game than just that one element.

And to clarify on the original question of this thread, Industrial zones can be large and continuous, and smaller buildings will populate as they wish. It is only Residential and Commercial where the building must fit the zoned footprint. So without having larger lots in the game, large zoned areas will never develop.

[yodadrummer 6]

get simgoobers residential bats...he has one that is 10x10 and it grows on a 10x10...its low density tho...hope tht helps

[mayor_brando 8]

Originally posted by: Cougar2004

Perhaps if there was a new "cam-zoning" option (a purple zone) to just place a 10x10 or 12x12 area to selected parts of a city (where we want massive growth), and yet still keep all else normal, I think that would be a good balance. Then I could set my city centers for a few blocks of some cities to CAM-growth.quote>

That's actually a pretty good idea.

Anyway, I don't have CAM, so I wouldn't know much about it, but if you're looking for buildings with a large footprint, just search the STEX.

[suaviscor 0]

I like CAM because it greatly increases pedestrian traffic.  Never liked the idea of sims driving three tiles, as is often the case.

[bixel 1,224]

Here is my Zone Cheat Sheet - granted most of these are my buildings. Some are from Paulvmontfort, Simfox, Skyfire, KS Japan, and others... good luck hunting down the buildings...

2x6 Tung Po

3x4 SLSCB

3x4 Moscow Red

3x5 Aon Center

3x5 Bell Wiew

3x7 Intercontinental Hotel

3x11 Manhattan Hill

4x2 21st Century Tower

4x2 Shinjuku Nomura

4x2 Dohn Building

4x2 Narloy Corp

4x2 Chao Tian Men Tower

4x3 Atlantia Tower

4x3 Trillton Tower

4x3 SompoJapan

4x3 ClarkTower

4x3 Jardine House

4x3 The Merton Tower 1

4x5 Cardinal Airlines

4x5 Centre Point

4x5 BOA HK

4x5 Jungold Finincial

4x6 Cinedom

4x6 Seagram Building

4x8 One International

4x9 Braemer Hill Mansions

4x10 Victoria Towers

4x11 Tin Hak

4x12 Sceneway Phase 4

5x2 Chase Building

5x2 Washington Atlantic

5x3 Union Bank

5x3 Quadro Building

5x4 BashnjaNa

5x4 Tiberian Thanefirst

5x5 Jiansu Tower

5x5 Cheung Kong Center

5x5 SkyChase Plaza

5x8 Cayman Rise

5x8 Shanghai World

5x8 New World Apartments

5x10 Tokyo Industries

5x10 Harbour Green Phase B

5x12 Shunhing Square

5x16 Sorrento (Easy Grow)

5x21 Park Central

6x2 KMB

6x3 Shenzen News Tower

6x3 Chase Tower

6x3 Far East Finance

6x3 Marun

6x3 750 7 South

6x3 Tai Pan Terrace

6x4 The Merton 2&3

6x4 Buena Vista

6x4 KPMC

6x4 Simcoe Place

6x4 Shibuya Shopping

6x4 Toshiba building

6x5 SungHung Kai Center

6x6 Conrad International

6x6 TaiYeun Phase 2

6x9 MetroCity 2 Phase 2

6x10 Harbour Green Phase A

6x12 MetroCity 2 Phase 1

6x14 Vision City

7x4 Mitui Main Building

7x4 Mitsui Main

7x4 Lippo Centre

7x6 Ma On Shan

7x10 Sceneway Phase 1

7x10 Sceneway Phase 2

7x12 Sceneway Phase 3

8x3 TaiYeun Phase1

8x4 Shirokiya

8x4 Dynasty Court

8x4 Harbourside

8x6 TaiYeun Phase 3

9x8 Liberte

10x7 Chelsea Court

11x6 Cerulean

16x5 Sorrento