The Simtropolis Closet

[thatmonkeysim 8]

please dont turn this into a flame arena no one is forcing anything on you... we are just having a civilized conversation...

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[sepsis 17]

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[The boy formerly known as Evil Muzz 27]

For all your parents know, the Simtropolis Closet thread could be about what we wear . You don't have to look at it, The name could mean many things!

[thatmonkeysim 8]

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Simtropolis Closet could mean the stuff that is in the closets of ST members...it doesnt necisarily mean its about sexuality

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[hogmeister 7]

CFB, I am sure your parents aren

[cheese91 9]

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If you have an issue with the thread, simply don't click on it. If you are worried about your parents seeing, and you feel like you are doing something wrong, just don't go into the Off-Topic forum, or wait until the thread has died down a bit. If you get your game taken away, that is not our fault. The administrators and moderators can not delete a topic just because it makes YOU unhappy, and because YOU might get into trouble. If they found this topic to be inappropriate, I'm sure it wouldn't have lasted for 7 pages. It's an excellent topic in my opinion, most people have handeled it extremely well, and you should be mature enough to deal with a subject like this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Zelgadis 638]

Date: 7/14/2005 8:42:25 AM
Author: thatmonkeysim

Date: 7/14/2005 8:29:04 AM


GLBTs ARE PEOPLE TOO!


as for the topic at hand...


i have been having questions about my oreintation lately... and im glad that people here would take it better than people at home... and i know my sister is gonna see this and she i gonna be surprised but its been on my mind for a long time and just want it off it before it rots inside of me...


thank you GB for making this topic



btw... the mods said that this is ok so get over it... its gonna be around for awhile

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I think I speak for a lot of people here when I say that we know what it's like to be in the questioning phase. I've known many in this stage and it's been about 50/50 whether they come to the conclusion that they are indeed gay.

I hope it did indeed help you to get that off your chest. It's never good to let it rot inside, as you put it. If the question keeps bugging you, and there is a person whom you can trust, by all means pay him/her a visit. It can do wonders. My aunt helped me greatly though my time.

Also, thanks to everyone who defended this thread much more eloquently than I could have. (That includes you, thatmonkeysim.) And how gratifying it is that it appears that this includes some of our straight friends here.

That said, I would like to request that the participants here, with whom we have been having a civilized discussion, to be wary. It occurs to me that somebody might try to deliberately start a flame war in this thread in the hopes of getting it shut down. Let us not take the bait if that happens!

ISF

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Yeah, thats cool.

This thread particulary emphasises the humanity in this forum. The main reason I have stayed here, is because, although there are 80,000 members, it feels like a big hug

 

I know, and hope that all others know that we are all here for each other, both on and off SC4 conversation.

[SpartanBadger 4]

Hey I was just wondering if any of you teenagers have some sort of a gay club at your school? I go to a campus with three high schools on one plot of land, and we have the GSA (gay straight alliance) and seeing that this is America, it gets a lot of heat. I for one don't have a problem with it, I mean seeing as I don't have to participate in it if I don't want to. It's a pretty small group with only a few dozen members (to my knowledge at least) but there are going to be 6,000 students next year and I really wonder how many of them are gay/bi. One thing that really upsets me is that some teachers have tiny rainbow stickers that let students know it is a gay safe zone meaning that the students can talk to the teachers and feel safe. To me that's just pathetic because only some teachers have that, and it just seems to separate the teachers, I mean if you don't have the rainbow on your door, are people going to think you are a homphobe? Don't misunderstand why I'm upset with this, I fully support the idea of students being able to talk with teachers, but I think that students should be able to talk to any teacher, not just the gay safe ones. Don't you?

[mentarman 14]

XSpiderman, I think that would be nice, but that's not the world we live in.

[jmusshorn 7]

Date: 7/14/2005 5:48:42 PM
Author: mentarman
XSpiderman, I think that would be nice, but that's not the world we live in.

Indeed.

I know that my World History teacher Ms. Correa was definitely not a person to speak to about GLBT issues. See, she runs the local Christian club at our school, and she even tries to influence the children in our school with Christianity and republicanism (is that a word, Ian? ), which would be alright if it weren't illegal to discuss such subjects with your students in a public school.

Someone had come up behind me right outside of her class, pulled me to the ground and kicked me multiple times shouting yeah, you tink you so great you ~censored~ faget! (I know words were spelled incorrectly, they're just there to give emphasis on how stupid this guy sounded).

So, he runs off, and I stagger into Ms. Correa's room and tell her what happened. I told her that he had kicked me all whilst calling me a faggot. (I'm practically the only openly gay person at our school. Mix that with the fact that I'm white and I'm surprised that I'm not dead). She told me:

Well you better get up to the health room.
I'm in so much pain I can barely walk, can you call the nurse so she can maybe come down here or call my parents?
Well, no I can't do that.
Why not?
Well, I feel that you shouldn't have been so open about such a disgusting subject in a school setting, and that maybe you had this coming.

I promise, this is what she said. I'll never forget that. The kid got away with everything, and I got counseling for being gay. Justice served.

... No.

Just thought I'd shed a little light on the Hawai'i public school system.



~J

[masher 3]

Today we celebrate 7 months together with my boyfriend!!

[cheese91 9]

Jmuss- Wow. I was shocked when I read your story. Terrible. Really, really sad.  I'm more angry then sad, though. (I'm sad for you , of course, and sad that things like that happen to gays all over the world every single day) I'm angry at the way that woman handled the situation. She left you in pain, suffering. That digusts me. Gays are people! They are normal human beings! And they should be treated as such.

 

 

Dispicable(spelling?)  the way some people handle homosexuality in this society...

 

 

 

(If anything in that post could start a flame war, my apologies...This is a very  touchy subject with me...I get very worked up sometimes...I tried to be as cool and collected as possible)

 

 

 

EDIT- Congratulations Masher That's wonderful!

[MC6Ash 4]

congratulations masher! Hope you two have a happy long relationship together.

[masher 3]

Thank you guys!!

[jmusshorn 7]

cheese91: Thank you. You know, I was quite depressed after that had taken place as well, but I decided that the old proverb was right: What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger. I really believe that. I have this feeling on the matter: I have healed up completely, and I no longer have a problem regarding what happened. However, she will eventually realize how inhumane her action of standing idly by was and she will have to live with her inactions for the rest of her life. I almost feel to be the lucky one.

 

Masher: Congrats to you and hot stuff, there. Can I get a w00t w00t?

 

*Audience* w00t w00t!

 

~J

[nealos101 20]

Nice closet you got here,

 

Firstly, Id like to say Im straight, and my life is going fine with being straight.

 

Secondly, I have a few lesbian freinds and one gay freind, in which makes my life more interesting. Without them, they would make my life annoyingly boring and probably crack my confidence in half becuase they kept my chin up in bad times.

 

Thirdly, keep this topic open by editing it. People who haven't come out of their personal closet need stuff like this.

 

Fourthly, the people that have a poor problem with this thread can click that back button on top of their taskbar before they post homophobic/biphobic comments.

 

Fithly and finally, don't be afraid to jump out of your closet when the time comes, there's always a community to take part in.

 

Nealos101.

[Zelgadis 638]

Jemi, your story has a familiar ring to it. I've heard that same defense used time and time again by rapists. She shouldn't have been dressed so provocatively. She shouldn't have come on to me like that. It was wrong then, and it's wrong now.

What your teacher wants is for you to hide who you are so that she can maintain her comfort zone.

And as for your question, Republicanism may or may not be a word. However, English permits the creation of new words, and you properly grafted the suffix ism to turn it into another noun.

I had a French teacher in high school who often espoused her Republicanism. I was in high school when Nixon died. When that happened, she spent 15 minutes of class time giving a long-winded speech about how wonderful he was. When she finished, I shouted out None of that changes the fact that he was a criminal! Oh yes, she was hopping mad.

Later, I had a New Testament teacher in college who often spent 2 or 3 minutes at the beginning of every class explaining how wonderful Clinton was. Nice change of pace.

But all that is beside the topic at hand, so I'll shut up about it.

ISF

P.S. Congrats Masher! I hope the next 7 months are happy! And the next 7 months, and the next...

[dudyconstructor 46]

This is a good thread.

Personally, i'm not gay...but people are free!! They are free to follow their hearts, they should not abide to society labels, they should abide to what makes them happy.

 

 

[mentarman 14]

In response to jmusshorn:

WHAT!?!?! Does the principal know about this? The school board? Heck, the local newspaper? I guess maybe it happened a bit ago, and maybe you don't want to make that much fuss, but that is insane. It doesn't matter what she thinks of you or your sexuality, it is her job to keep you safe at school and she has failed in her job.
I'd like to agree with you that she will someday realize what she did, but unfortunately I doubt it. Obviously this incident is over but I'm concerned for others who might turn to her. Doesn't sound like she's a safe harbor at all (that's the stickers they had at my college for people you could turn to about sexuality without being judged.)

[jmusshorn 7]

mentarman: You're probably right. She will probably never realize what she's done, but I guess it doesn't really matter to me now. And yes, the principal knows, but he's almost worse than she is. Not in religious reservations, but in pure inactivity. He is a useless individual.

 

Anyway, I am strong and secure enough in my own mind to simply let it go. Nothing of such severity has happened since, and I still think that what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

 

Words to live by.

~J

[mentarman 14]

^^ I agree and think you are taking a good attitude about it. I guess it just disturbs me that a teacher would do this. No matter what, she should be looking after the safety of the students, it doesn't matter who you are or what you've done. She doesn't have to support who you are (though I wish she would) but it is her *job* to protect you. Grrr.
This just touched a nerve with me I guess. You expect certain things from other students, but the teacher should....oh, I've gone on long enough.

[thatmonkeysim 8]

jmuss that is the exact reason i dont want to tell anyone that i think i might be bisexual... i dont ever want to go through that and thats prolly why alot of people dont tell anyone there feelings...

[jmusshorn 7]

Date: 7/15/2005 7:36:05 AM Author: thatmonkeysim jmuss that is the exact reason i dont want to tell anyone that i think i might be bisexual... i dont ever want to go through that and thats prolly why alot of people dont tell anyone there feelings...

 

Well, I mean sure, there may be negative things like that that happen on occasion, but most of the time just the fact that I'm being honest and true to/about myself is more than I could ever want!

 

 I feel more sorry for the kind of people that would want to hurt others just because of who they are. They've obviously got problems that run way deeper than any problems that I could ever have.

 

Besides, on the subject of being honest about homosexuality; I can't keep anything like that about myself a secret. It's no fun! If you're the absolute only one that knows something as inconsequential as your sexuality, where's the fun in that? I guess I'm just too much of a blabbermouth when it comes to myself!

 

I have found though that most people are indeed greatly supportive of who I am. I mean, I'm the same person that I've always been; gay or otherwise. You've gotta have more faith in humanity than to keep such a thing from your friends and family.

 

All I can say is: Do whatever will make/keep you happy. If you want to tell people, then you'll tell them. Eventually all the hype, shock and/or all that *beep* will die down and blow over, and you'll still be the same person you always were.

 

Who knows? You may even bag a hot guy from the deal. I mean, you're pretty good looking; you'll manage.

 

~J

[thatmonkeysim 8]

omg why does everyone [girl or guy] think im hot!! i am the exact oppisite!!

[jmusshorn 7]

Oy, calm down. Did I say hot? No, I said good looking. Sheesh.

 

So, what exactly do you think that you are, anyway?

 

Bicurious? Bisexual? Gay? Questioning?

 

Just curious. *Pun intended*

[thatmonkeysim 8]

bicurious... i guesss i want to see what all the hype is about


ok ok... but im still not 'good looking'