NAM General Discussion Thread

[MallowTheCloud 41]

Date: 6/28/2005 7:37:16 PM
Author: Mickebear
MallowTheCloud: that sounds like the typical NAM bug (which cannot be fixed) to me. Were there a station or other network transit enabled item close by when you were hovering over the railway?

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Yep. I didn't know about that, but JUST before I came in here to edit that I had found that thread, you had replied

Thanks for the info, though!

It was the GLR. Sorry for bothering you all.

[ledthug1983 1]

i recently downloaded the nam 6/17/05 and i dont have anything for the highways,im sure im missing more stuff too,could someone please help

[Tropod 144]

When you downloaded the file, there would also have been a ReadMe file & other documentation. At the first sign of trouble, people need to read the documentation. There isn't anything that can be said that isn't alreay taken care of in the documentation.

[Hordijk 18]

Tropod this is off-topic I know I know I know (sorry)
But I need to say it

you should change your avatar it's kinda not suiting you!

you need a more elegant one!

 

sorry again I needed to say.

[Hordijk 18]

ow and before I forget were can I get the ATL mod with the turnig lanes

if somebody could tell me yes please.

never mind allready got it stupid question.

[chocolate_city 93]

Am i mistaken that there was a elevated one way road curve that was available through the latest NAM (as part of the one way road bridge puzzle pieces?) ..!!!????

[peecee5050 0]

I've downloaded NetworkAddonMod_Beta_06.17.05.zip. When I try to extract the zip file I receive a dialog box asking for a password, as shown below. It seems that there are several files contained within the zip file that are password protected. What can I do?

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//NAM_zip_password.jpg align=baseline>

[Andreas Roth 607]

What ZIP program do you use? I used WinZip, and it worked fine.

[dzi 0]

Date: 7/1/2005 4:03:29 AM Author: peecee5050

I've downloaded NetworkAddonMod_Beta_06.17.05.zip. When I try to extract the zip file I receive a dialog box asking for a password, as shown below. It seems that there are several files contained within the zip file that are password protected. What can I do?

https://www.simtropolis.com/idealbb/files//NAM_zip_password.jpg align=baseline>

quote>Are you sure you downloaded it from STEX?

[peecee5050 0]

Thanks for the replies. I just solved the problem.

dzi - I downloaded the file from a link in Greyveil's Newbie Help Thread:

[Andreas Roth 607]

It seems a lot of people have problems when using the built-in Windows XP unzip function, esp. when long filenames and subfolders are included. A dedicated ZIP program, such as WinZip, WinRAR or StuffIt, as you mentioned, should work better in any case.

[peecee5050 0]

Andreas - Yea, I should have known better than to expect something from Microsoft to work properly. I just ordered StuffIt Deluxe 9.0 for Windows -- limited time special $29 physical shipment.

Thanks again.

[Tropod 144]

chocolate_city:
There were a whole new heap of puzzlepieces with the latest version. Whether some of these would be considered as 'curve', well that would depend on ones perception I guess. A lot of the newer puzzlepieces includes diagonal-based puzzlepieces, which includes corner puzzlepiece & diagonal puzzlepiece.




Regarding ZIP file & password protection:
I honestly do not know why this would occur. I have never had this particular issue with the NAM, & (for clarity) certainly do not put any kind of passwords on any uploaded files. I have though experienced this sort of problem myself with other zip files. It is a little unusual really, as it has only been recently that this sort of thing has been occuring (to myself at least with some zip files).

[frimi2 0]

Date: 7/2/2005 10:47:45 AM Author: Tropod chocolate_city:  Regarding ZIP file & password protection: I honestly do not know why this would occur. I have never had this particular issue with the NAM, & (for clarity) certainly do not put any kind of passwords on any uploaded files. I have though experienced this sort of problem myself with other zip files. It is a little unusual really, as it has only been recently that this sort of thing has been occuring (to myself at least with some zip files).

It comes most with a corrupted download. Download again and the problem is gone (or, may be, not )

[gosling2003 0]

How about puzzle pieces for multi-highways with proper switches and turns (no offence lakeyboy) like the 401 in southern ontario.

 

 

Of course you would have to add puzzle pieces for roads/aveunes to pass over it too.

 

My bad...i just realised that this is in the wrong thread...sorry.

 

        -Gosling

 

 

[MiniMark 7]

Ok heres another couple ideas. I apoligize if someone has already suggested these in on of the several pages (Plus im too lazy to look and read them) lol. But here we go.

How about a downgrade option for roads. Instead of taking the road option and dragging it over your street to upgrade it, how about a road downgrade so when you click the street option  and click over the road it will turn back into a street. So it saves the hassle of buldozing the road and place back a street. This way it will give the streets back to the sims lol.

 

My last option is (well not necessary needed for the NAM but it could be) is that a patch to fix the text tool (eg a street label) does not dissapear while upgrading the street, road or even connecting.

 

Comments are welcome!

[zarikov 0]

I have the latest version of NAM, and everything works except the increase of capacities. My subway is still 2000 passengers even with the 'radical custom special'. I've removed all other mods, waited years in maps waiting for them to increased, pretty much everything I can think of. Any ideas?

[MiniMark 7]

Date: 7/3/2005 8:14:39 PM Author: zarikov I have the latest version of NAM, and everything works except the increase of capacities. My subway is still 2000 passengers even with the 'radical custom special'. I've removed all other mods, waited years in maps waiting for them to increased, pretty much everything I can think of. Any ideas?

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Ya i have that exact same problem, although for some crazy reason everyone seems to be using the rails as I have 3 train stations well into the red. (7800+ people) Yet the city is 74,000 people i would of thought they would be prone to be using the road/avenues that I have originally laid out for them.

[MiniMark 7]

Date: 7/2/2005 1:11:21 PM Author: gosling2003

How about puzzle pieces for multi-highways with proper switches and turns (no offence lakeyboy) like the 401 in southern ontario.

Of course you would have to add puzzle pieces for roads/aveunes to pass over it too.

My bad...i just realised that this is in the wrong thread...sorry.

        -Gosling

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Being from Ontario, Canada and currently living in the GTA i would have to agree with you 100%. Something that SC5 should have or perhaps our NAM creators can help us out with that. Although the highway would probably be the off the scale in terms of congestion (if the 401 was built in SC4)

[Shadow Assassin 336]

I'm just wondering -- how high is the elevated rail over road piece?

[Swamper77 90]

Date: 7/3/2005 10:10:07 PM Author: Shadow_Assassin I'm just wondering -- how high is the elevated rail over road piece?

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The paths for the trains/el trains are at 15.5 above the ground. The car paths on the road/one-way/avenue puzzle pieces are at 15 above the ground. I assume the units are meters given the way Maxis set things up when they were designing the game.

-Swamper77

[Tropod 144]

Date: 7/3/2005 8:37:25 PM
Author: MiniMark

Date: 7/3/2005 8:14:39 PM Author: zarikov I have the latest version of NAM, and everything works except the increase of capacities. My subway is still 2000 passengers even with the 'radical custom special'. I've removed all other mods, waited years in maps waiting for them to increased, pretty much everything I can think of. Any ideas?

Ya i have that exact same problem, although for some crazy reason everyone seems to be using the rails as I have 3 train stations well into the red. (7800+ people) Yet the city is 74,000 people i would of thought they would be prone to be using the road/avenues that I have originally laid out for them.

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I've already replied to one of you via PM, but may as well mention it here too.

None of the NAM files modify (Building) Lots at all, in anyway whatsoever. Nor do any files contained within the NAM modify any TransitEnabledLots.
The different Traffic_Plugin files modify the actual networks themselves. This has nothing to do with the Stations, subways, bus stops, toll boths etc, that sit on or use the different networks. And despite being related & being affected they, networks & TransitEnabledLots that use the networks, are entirely two different things.

[flanig407 0]

just downloaded the new NAM...quick question...the turning lanes on the avenue only appear for an avenue-avenue intersection, right?  not for avenue-road intersections?

[Andreas Roth 607]

Yes, they appear only at avenue x avenue intersections at the moment.

[simzebu 19]

My pathfinding does not seem to like bridges. I am using the Perfect pathfinding, along with 2x capacity, 10x commute, 10x speeds. But I recently had taken down a bridge because it had become clogged, and when I replaced it with a highway bridge, it stoped woring. a route query of the highway leading up to it shows that a few people travel over it, but querying the bridge shows none. A traffic data view shows no congestion. as in not even the green highlight. How can I fix this?
This has also happened in another city right after the version before the current one was released.

EDIT: Tried saving and quitting, and then re-entering the city. did not work.

[Tropod 144]

Can't say I've ever seen or heard of bridges not working pathing-wise. There's no reason why any bridges should not work, assuming they've been joined up correctly with the rest of the network. The NAM does not touch any bridge files at all as far as I'm aware, except onewayroad bridges (which it adds). I would suggest re-examining the set-up you have. If the problem does continue, feel free to post a picture of the problem.

[mystic_horizon 1]

I have a question. How well does this T-Intersection stack up to the original? It's not up to scale, but I do like to download 3ds highway parts to recreate this.

 

[simzebu 19]

Date: 7/6/2005 2:42:22 AM
Author: Tropod
Can't say I've ever seen or heard of bridges not working pathing-wise. There's no reason why any bridges should not work, assuming they've been joined up correctly with the rest of the network. The NAM does not touch any bridge files at all as far as I'm aware, except onewayroad bridges (which it adds). I would suggest re-examining the set-up you have. If the problem does continue, feel free to post a picture of the problem.

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Over the water:


South side:


North Side:


Shot from reigon transport view:


Another pathfinding problem that has occered elsewhere. the intersection was changed recently do to the obvious congestion:

A route query shows that some sims take the proper ramp, while others go straght and take a 90 degree turn, as if it was still an avenue intersection.

[Tropod 144]

In future, please try use *.JPEG format for images as *.PNG images take way to long to load (even for images of the same size). anyhow


Pic1:
The fact that you've got a tunnel there, could be (partially) contributing to the problem, but not necessarily. It's a bit hard really to grasp any issue based only on that picture.


Pic2:
The fact the highway tiles near the bridge or the bridge tiles itself are not coloured (green or anything) to me highlights the fact that the exe hasn't picked up on the network tiles yet. This is typical for newly made sections of network tiles. Sometimes it may take a couple of months or more before new network tiles are recognised by the engine. But those highway tiles should at least be green, even if it isn't being used at all, like this;

Essentially, this is the main problem. And it has nothing to do with the NAM, as it does not modify any of those files related to that bridge or any other apart from onewayroad bridges. Basically, you need to give the game more time to update. If it still doesn't work, then you may need to rebuild the bridge, but as I mentioned, the highway bridge tiles should at least show up as green on the dataview congestion map even if it isn't being used.

Pic3:
Same as per Pic4.

Pic4:
Isn't really relevant, considering Pic2&3.


Pic5:
That's not the Route Query, that's the Dataview Congestion Map, they're entirely two different things. The Congestion overlay map just shows the congestion of tiles, not where or how Sims are using a given network, they're entirely two different things. So that pic is rather quite normal. It's the Route Query Tool that handles the actual where & how of commuter routing. So the '90 degree turn', isn't actually a turn as such, the game is just highlighting which tiles have whatever congestion on them.

[Beitsaad 0]

I have this problem. I thought it was because I had this running: sidewalk avenue mod ver. 2
so I took it out of my plugin folder. But that didn't appear to solve the problem. I then realized that if I zoned around the intersection that the cement would no longer be visable. So I thought I had it fixed, but then I realized that the cars will not use the turning lanes at all. Does anyone have any suggestions for me to try? I tried to search through this thread and other searchs but I apparently suck at searching. Thanks ahead of time.