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[delija21 295]

here is current progress on my towers

By delija21 at 2008-04-30

[SimFox 803]

I write this with a heavy heart!

But I think I should say it, as I doubt anyone else would.

I think you really should hold your horses instead of quickly producing a lot of sub par stuff. My problem with it all is that I don't really even see you try to improve. You take large and ambitious projects and then leave them at sketching stage to be put on STEX. Why?

Take your time, but make something well. You'll learn a lot in process. Now it seems you just repeating same stuff with no progress.

Sv. Sava and your last upload are both very crude, particularly House Of Parliament. Why did you have to hurry it so much up? it is just some bizarre collection of basic primitives. with nor refinement what so ever.

I really wish you would work more . You have good eye, see proportions and shapes well, but that is just a start. You have to develop you gift, not waste it! I would be willing to help you with advise...

[delija21 295]

Thanks mate,i realy apriciate your comment. I know that there are some things that i could 

improve and beleve me i'm trying.I put a lot of work in the parliament,made roofjunk and other small details but i just couldn't export it....i dont't know if it was too big or it was something else but the only way i could export it was by deleting those details. But i also have to desagree on your comment on Sv.Sava...there was nothing else to model on it...there isn't actualy any other details,the only thing that wasn't good was textures,i know that but i don't know how to make custom textures and i have to use those i can find on the net. Beleve me,i'm trying to improve my modeling skills,i think i showed that with BLaM HQ,i know it wasn't as good as yours BATs but i still beleve it was pretty good,also my current project....i will try to make it even better than BLaM HQ,but i didn't get what you ment with the texture issues...i didn't copy textured tower,i textured them individualy...btw i would really apriciate your advise on my projects,because this is still all new to me

[SimFox 803]

Well, I didn't say "not enough modeling" I've said crude one. Speaking of Sv. Sava - take for instance the windows under the central Dome - do you think they look like in real thing? I don't think so... Could you have made them much better and looking like on the real thing with your current level of skill - absolutely!

About the Palace of Parliament - it was suggested by me and others that the reason for failed export is the overall size of the structure. And was suggested that you would consider to chop it in pieces. Level of detailing had never anything to do with the export. You have chosen instead of exploring that option to just make is smaller and still cruder and drop it on STEX. That is exactly what I'm talking about. You avoid challenge. but only challenge will make your skill advance. But if you'll be giving yourself excuses all the time it will not.

Anyway, you are free man, and I'll speak no more of it. I just wanted to speak my mind of. I didn't want to offend of upset you..

[delija21 295]

You are not offending nor upseting me....like many other BAT makers here i also want to hear all comments...i realy appriciate your advises and i will try to do my best,because i do want my BATs to look as best as thay can

[WeekendCityPlanner 19]

Well,the towers still have a bit to go. For example, the walls and windows look like they're textures, I can't tell. But what I can tell is that it looks monotonous. Another is the entrance area, looks lifeless, plus the texture of the roof entrances appear to be the exact same. Maybe you should model the base, and not have a base made in lot editor. You should do some of that stuff first, then make other improvements, if Simfox agrees, after all he is better at this than me.

[delija21 295]

added nitelites and unesco and who logos

By delija21 at 2008-05-01

By delija21 at 2008-05-01

Nemesis i was thinking to model the base but i havn't decided if i'm going to do that or not

[zzazzmatazz 3]

This building is coming along great! keep up the good work!

[WeekendCityPlanner 19]

Okay, now I know that the walls and windows are not textures. But I still think you could do a little work with the textures.

[delija21 295]

i'm finish with the UNESCO and WHO HQ,just have to export it and see how it looks in game,so i've started on a new project...this is how it look so far

By delija21 at 2008-05-04

By delija21 at 2008-05-04

[SimFox 803]

Well, I wouldn't say that previous twin towers are ready... And if you would publish here Z5 render of them it would be obvious why...

But that aside, this new project of yours. Let's catch some issues in an early stage. It is a perfect illustration of crudeness I have been speaking earlier. Look at the portico on your model. And then look at portico on ANY stylistically similar buildings. Do you not see obvious misses? Also about those statues... The warriors, well those may be ok, but that feeble horse, got to go. It is absurd, particularly in that portico.

Another issue that is a bit questionable in my mind - is that relative size of windows. Again in buildings of similar styles it highly unlikely. At least in the way you've done it. Top floor windows will not be large than those beneath them.

One question. Is that we see here is a whole of the building, i mean hight wise? I'm particularly interested if the will be something under current lowest level?

[delija21 295]

SimFox: That is relative size of windows....i know it's unlikely but as you can see in the pic of the RL building thay are a little bit larger than those beneath them. And it's not the whole building,there will be two lower levels. Why is the horse absurd?? And wat's wrong with the porticio? Btw this is how it looks now and here is a pic of the RL building

By delija21 at 2008-05-04

By delija21 at 2008-05-04

By delija21, shot with CyberPix E-350V at 2008-05-04

[JakeMD 107]

The horse is absurd because of your modeling defficenty Just kidding lol. Its probably because of an error with one of your modeling steps, try to re-work it, or flatten it out against the wall there. The torso looks a bit too far out than the rest of the horse.

[Jasoncw 11,941]

Well, the thing is that, yeah, you have a horse there, and yeah, you have a chariot there. But They're both just kind of sitting there. In the real building they're one big dramatic statue/relief.

What I would recommend for that, is to find a photo of it straight on, and then apply that to a plane. Then you can poly edit the plane. Between the shadows from the simple model you'd make, and the shadows and detail from the photo, it will look great for SC4.

[patfirefghtr 160]

Delija that is looking real sweet!!!

[SimFox 803]

Well seeing now the building picture one thing is very obvious - proportions are quite off. And it is exactly proportions that make things to look absurd. As in the case of horse it was way to feeble in respect of it's surroundings. It didn't look like a decoration, but rather like a joke. The sculpture group inside the portico is about the size of the window, greater perhaps, your horse on the other hand is about 1/3 of it. You don't see that? You have to recheck all the proportions of the building and particularly portico's.

About windows of the top floor. The way the building is set that floor is clearly set out as a separate piece. in your model it is just another floor. That's why bigger windows on it look awkward.

Generally look carefully on your source images. they thing you are making is wrong on so many counts that it it pointless to list them all. Some simplification may be in order. But in the I don't think we are speaking about simplification here... In some case you've made thing more complex. Pointlessly...

[praguc 0]

isn't that last building the Railway Museum in Belgrade? Are you doing that or just using it as an inspiration?

[delija21 295]

yes,it was Railway museum in BGD,but since i have lost all my files i'm not going to make it,i have started on my new project...serbian house set and i have just finished my first house

By delija21 at 2008-05-13

[SimHoTToDDy 2,939]

Niiiiiiice, I always have room for more houses! Base is a lil weird, unless its going on a 1x1 lot. Otherwise, looking good. I look forward to more!

[WeekendCityPlanner 19]

Wow, that looks pretty good. Great modeling, fantastic textures!

[delija21 295]

nice to see you like it....here is house nr 2

By delija21 at 2008-05-15

[jacqulina 162]

cute little houses there

[delija21 295]

current progress

By delija21 at 2008-05-15

[SimFox 803]

these are realy sweet! I think you've nailed the style to the t!

[delija21 295]

here are all 4 houses that will be in the set

By delija21 at 2008-05-16

[zzazzmatazz 3]

Those house's look wonderful!

by the way, good job on the Slavin monument you released! 

[delija21 295]

Thanks mate...here is my new project...Usce Tower

By delija21 at 2008-05-18

[delija21 295]

can someone tell me what am i doing wrong with the nitelites

By delija21 at 2008-05-19

[panthersimcity4 162]

I love those Serbian houses, they remind me of Poland.

[SimFox 803]

Read Mental Ray Final Gather and Dayligting tutorials in Max Help. those must help.