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Originally posted by: waway625 yeah..i think EA is now officially known as the most hated , least respected game publisher in the world 9.gif

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i think UbiSoft takes the cake for that one.

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also, HL2 is not really a generic shooter game. if you guys ever used the SDK, you would know how much work and effort went into that game. Also, with all of the tech, (Facial expressions, no cut scenes, w/e) it is just amazing. The story is also amazing. I used the SDK to make a project, and my dad helped me out, giving me impressions as to what to add, etc, and then i would add it/make the scene file. My dad was amazed at how hard Valve worked (My dad thought it was just a generic shooter before this project), and he wants to watch me play it. He really likes it, surprisingly.

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Ubisoft, and EA are the big money eaters.. when Ubisoft annouced they were not going to use star force... yeeeah right!

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Originally posted by: mayormot What I find disturbing about SCS is the authoritarianism aspect of it.  Just what kind of "society" is SCS supposed to be simulating?quote>

EA discovered that some Sims and SC gamers like to create unpleasant scenarios. The authoritarianism choices in SCC are an explicit acknowledgement of that desire.

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Originally posted by: mayormot 

What I find disturbing about SCS is the authoritarianism aspect of it.  In SimCity, Sims do what Sims do and as Mayor you just have to deal with them.

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You don't have to have an authoritarian city.  You can build a city without any police whatsoever, as long as you don't have buildings which encourage crime, or unhappy sims.

However, it is a lot of fun to mentally command people to attend the local asylum....

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Originally posted by: greenday5494
Originally posted by: waway625 yeah..i think EA is now officially known as the most hated , least respected game publisher in the world 9.gif

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i think UbiSoft takes the cake for that one.quote>

well, ubisoft is hated for starforce/copy protection/malware

EA is hated for crappy games (esp this year when they effd up my favorite series Simcity, NBA live and NFS)

so you take your pic which youd hate more 3.gif lol

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Well, i personally hate ubisoft (along with the whole Project Stealth team) because they COMPLETLY effed up splinter cell, my favorite game series of all time.... It seems its a new trend in the game industry, to dumb things down. look at these following games that were dumbed down, compared to their predcessors:

Team Fortress

SimCity

Splinter Cell

among others.

is that the new cool thing to do at the developers offices?

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Originally posted by: greenday5494

Splinter Cell

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The first 3 Splinter Cell's were incredible... but Double Agent was a massive dissapointment... even the graphics had been dumbed down 41.gif

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Yeah, EA are terrible. Gaming would be much better off without SSX, Fight Night Round 3, and Tib. Wars. /sarcasm

EA have made some demented decisions, of which SCS is one. But they are not some evil corporation out to ruin gaming. If you don't like their stuff, simply don't buy it. There are competitors. Honestly. They put out year after year of iterative sport franchise games and are torn to pieces for it. They put out an attempt at something original and new and are torn to pieces for it.

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Heres an idea:

~This is still not a site about pirating.~

BTW I forgot about M.A.X.I.S., I wish they were here.

Now reasearching city life 08

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I think this game is a complete mistake for EA, but what should they care, they have EA sports and what not.

This game is completely ineffective in any of its goals.

Whichever audience they were targeting i think they werent even shooting the right way.

For one thing, this game has the majority of loyal simcity fans complaining that it is unrealistic and a half-ass attempt at SC5.

So EA just lost a HUGE source of income in my opinion.

Also, if they ever do make expansions nobody will buy them, unless you still have hope for the game, because quite frankly people will be scared of their money going to waste. Newcomers to the series will most likely think that the game is extremely boring and will not pick up on the series and you just wait and see..in a couple of months eBay and Amazon.com will be swarming with "Used SCS original box!! like new!!!" and they will all sell really cheap. And nobody will buy it for more than £6.00. As for tilted mill, I feel sorry for them, EA was putting he pressure on them and this thing was finished almost overnight for the Christmas season. I prefer what Monte Cristo is doing..devoloping a good, balanced game based on the opinons of those who matter, THE CONSUMERS. Surely Cities Unlimited will be a much better game than SCS and will pick up most of the fans that SCS simply did not have the power to.

I am finished ranting5.gif

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Originally posted by: El Burro
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Splinter Cell

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The first 3 Splinter Cell's were incredible... but Double Agent was a massive dissapointment... even the graphics had been dumbed down 41.gifquote>

 

seriously. Look at the next one, i cant even look, sorry, whenever i see ubi's logo, i just roll my eyes. I cant stand them, i dont buy anything from them anymore.

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Greatly worded. I personally did not find SC4 hard at all. I feel SC3 was more confusing. SC4 had more tools and utilities built into the game to help a city grow with demand. The one thing I cannot stand in the SC series is Water Networking, I hate it so much but I know my Sims need water just like I do in real life. Thus, I build it. None-the-less, EA has not gotten my support on SCS. I keep going to the stores and grab SCS and City Life cases and compare them. City Life has to be better. Maybe Cities Unlimited will be better than them both. Who knows..... but EA will not receive a single cent from my pocket. Sure if someone buys me SCS as a gift I will then give it a try... but not on my budget.

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What is even more unjust is that Monte Cristo will probably make LESS money than EA anyway because they dont have all that glamorous advertising with all those polished little happy pictures of people having a blast playing the game. I will buy it anyway, because the unedited shots have me drooling. And if Cities Unlimited isn't good either I will still endorse it because Monte Cristo is an honest company whose actions are actually influenced by consumers.

It's a nice game on the outside sure..but its as shallow a game as the Colorado River my friends.

There is absolutely NOTHING that envelops me in the gameplay. Whereas SC4 can look pretty and provide deep, Challenging gameplay.

But of course, this is usually the low-brow kind of crap that EA does to make money, take a franchise of high-quality and make a crappy game with trusted names slapped on it for effect.

SimCity Societies has gone on the wrong path. Almost like if Mcdonalds tried to sell vegan food one day.....

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Maxis makes better Sim Games. Not EA. When I Got Need For Speed Carbon. That Game Is Such A Joke. You Only Get 4 Bosses In The Game. That So Dang Idiotic.

I Want Maxis Back To Make SC Games. Not Tiled Mill or EA.

Simcity3000 And Simcity4 Put Together might Make a Simcity 5.

Don't You Think?

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screw EA, they messed up Command and Conquer, messed up SC4 and a lot lot more.

maybe we should file a lawsuit.

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Originally posted by: waway625
Originally posted by: greenday5494
Originally posted by: waway625 yeah..i think EA is now officially known as the most hated , least respected game publisher in the world 9.gif

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i think UbiSoft takes the cake for that one.quote>

well, ubisoft is hated for starforce/copy protection/malware

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Ditto! I was the first one to say it! 9.gif

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New here and thought I would check out some of the talk on SCS. First thread I read was this one and I was reading allong untill I got to this quote 

"look at blizzard, the opposite of EA and arguably the best game makers out there"

Every serious RPG player out there, every serious strategy gamer out there and every serious mmo player out there blames Blizzard for the downfall of serious computer gaming. Starting with Warcraft which was the complete ruin of turn based strategy games, Diablo which took RPGs to an unbelievably low level of intelect and then WoW which dumbed down mmo's for the mass market.

Please if you want to point fingers at other companies, dont use Blizzard as an example - Blizzard is good for 2 things - taking everyone elses ideas and making them mass market and then making money. Its a formula that worked for them and everyone else is trying to do the same thing, including EA.

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Originally posted by: StringEvery serious RPG player out there, every serious strategy gamer out there and every serious mmo player out there blames Blizzard for the downfall of serious computer gaming. Starting with Warcraft which was the complete ruin of turn based strategy games, Diablo which took RPGs to an unbelievably low level of intelect and then WoW which dumbed down mmo's for the mass market.quote>

Well first of all, Warcraft was RTS, not TBS. If you're blaming them for making a great RTS game because it harmed TBS gaming, then I'm not sure how to respond to that. Diablo is fun, which is the most important thing. And WoW... MMOs needed to be dumbed down. They were inaccessable and not much fun. Blizz made a great MMO which people love playing.

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I'm not blaming Blizzard for anything, I'm simply stating another view. Blizzard took the game Dune and turned it into Warcraft, which was a huge seller which in turn was the demise of companies wanting to take a chance on new TBS games. Diablo, sure it was fun and I'm sure there are a lot of people out there saying the same thing about SCS. As far as mmo's needing to be dumbed down, a person could look at SC4 and say the exact same thing... none of that makes EA the "evil empire" that the original poster would have us believe.

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Originally posted by: Anung Mwka SCS makes me really really worried about what they've done to Spore......quote>

Shush! Don't say such a thing! *knocks on wood*

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yea, monte cristo deserves the money, and the only game i played from blizzard, and enjoyed alot, was StarCraft, and then i bought W3, never really got into it, but thats prolly becuz i was too busy with other games :/

StarCraft was actually my first videogame i've ever played, and i still play it and own it. Yes, i am 13 if you are wondering, and yes, SC's age group is 13 and up, not 13 and below.

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i may be the lone wolf but EA HAS come out with some great games, i mean, The Sims and the sims 2 . 3 in the making, those are wonderfull games?!?!?! i mean sure they might make mistakes, but all you guys hate scs because you are the top of the top of simcity fans, alot of not as crazy fans like SCS?!?!?

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EA isn't an EVIL corporation, they're just trying to stay ahead of the competition by mass producing games. However, they should take more time on the games and they should market any sequels to the fans of the original series. Why waste a huge, dedicated fan base?

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Originally posted by: labkindaguy i may be the lone wolf but EA HAS come out with some great games, i mean, The Sims and the sims 2 . 3 in the making, those are wonderfull games?!?!?! i mean sure they might make mistakes, but all you guys hate scs because you are the top of the top of simcity fans, alot of not as crazy fans like SCS?!?!?quote>

Honestly, I kinda like it. I mean, I always liked just building sandbox style, just designing it however I want without pushy people telling me what to do. 3.gif Plus you can mod almost anything, at least if you know how to use XML. I think it's better than City Life because there is more possibility for other styles of citybuilding, rather than those ugly tenements that pop up next to mansions or those annoying culture clashes. But Sc4 will always be better than Sc:S.

EA may be an evil corporation, but so are millions of others. (*cough* including BP *cough*) What makes EA any different than other rich corporations, like McDonald's or Walmart? If you hate EA so much for being a greedy corporate moneysucker, you might as well boycott our entire economy, since we're all at some level greedy. Maybe except the Dalai Llama or the Pope, but they don't play video games. 3.gif

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Originally posted by: String

As far as mmo's needing to be dumbed down, a person could look at SC4 and say the exact same thing... none of that makes EA the "evil empire" that the original poster would have us believe.

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Fair point, and one I can't argue with. I retract my comment on MMOs.

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Originally posted by: panthersimcity4 EA may be an evil corporation, but so are millions of others. (*cough* including BP *cough*) What makes EA any different than other rich corporations, like McDonald's or Walmart? If you hate EA so much for being a greedy corporate moneysucker, you might as well boycott our entire economy, since we're all at some level greedy.quote>

Hey if you wanna rant about we could open a thread about them too.2.gif

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TagDaze is right, all kinds of companies do the same thing.

One of the worst I can think of is Nintendo with its infinity of mario parties. They also managed to run sonic the hedgehog into the ground, after they got the franchise from sega. Sonic Adventure 2 was the last good game they came up with, when Sonic Heroes came out... I don't even want to go there

From what I understand, people usually do not like sequels. They expect them to be the same thing as the original, then if its different its like, dude they ruined it! And if its the same, they complain about the lack of new content. I think Blizzard has the right idea with Wow. They have the original, a tried and true product, and they add on to it so there is always new things to do. Of course thats easy to implement into a MMORPG... but still

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