Toronto VS. New York

[dabadon5 295]

im sure Toronto is nice but there is no comparison. Toronto is like a orange,New York is like a big ,juicy,scrumptious watermelon !

[ilikehotdogsalot 311]

Okay, we get it. You don't like Toronto, geez.

[dabadon5 295]

yes i am. once you get to know me, or maybe i was just being sarcastic ! who knows ?

[colddevil 0]

Toronto is definately better than New York, everything revolves around New York, why not Toronto? Why not Canada? Always America (No Offense).

It's so cramped in New York, and New York's most famous buildings are stadiums, that's just sad, whilst Toronto has more serious businesses to attend to rather than watching a game of baseball or whatever.

Toronto is diversed, it has alot of wide open space, I wouldn't say it's the most multi-cultural city in the world, because Montreal is.

If it were Montreal vs. Toronto, I'd go with Montreal, because that's where I live

[Joetropian1 1]

New York New York New York New York New York New York New York

I would always say New York unless it dissappeared or something. Then I would not even post here, and if I did it would be to argue 'why can't we have London in this v.s.?'

JT1

[hawkpride147 1]

another point in this discussion...how many songs are there about NY vs how many about toronto? same thing with movies...

[IDS2 3,396]

Yeah, no question about it, New York is the financial hub of the world and the economic center of the western hemisphere. 4th largest in the world depending on who you ask, 4X Toronto's size. Of course, then you add things like crime...but Toronto has it too. I'm sorry Trononto, but New York wins by a long shot. Not much to compare.

[hawkpride147 1]

@isd2 actually nyc has one of the lowest crime rates in the nation now (crime rate being crimes to people ratio)

[legalizeit 18]

Originally posted by: hawkpride147 another point in this discussion...how many songs are there about NY vs how many about toronto? same thing with movies...quote>

Actually, Toronto probably is in more movies than New York - except that TO almost never plays itself.

Your dark epiphanies, your true lines and smoke

Your glistening rails and streetcars all aglow.

"Always the wind and the persistent snow

Gets into your eyes and your mouth and every fold of your coat"

Everybody hates you but they don't know what I know

It's Christmastime, Christmastime in Toronto...

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: legalizeit

Actually, Toronto probably is in more movies than New York - except that TO almost never plays itself.quote>

Well, given how large and crowded a city New York is, it's impractical to close down streets and control traffic to film in Manhattan... and even in the outer boroughs, it becomes an expensive undertaking. Toronto is a popular city to film street scenes for movies in since it's a sizeable city and you can get that urban feel, but it's not so crowded as to make doing so a practicality problem.

Still, the original point is the city in which the stories are set, not where the scenes were filmed. By that regard, Los Angeles would probably be way on top (Hollywood being there and all).

[TRNSTN 0]

Originally posted by: colddevil Toronto is definately better than New York, everything revolves around New York, why not Toronto? Why not Canada? Always America (No Offense).

It's so cramped in New York, and New York's most famous buildings are stadiums, that's just sad, whilst Toronto has more serious businesses to attend to rather than watching a game of baseball or whatever.

Toronto is diversed, it has alot of wide open space, I wouldn't say it's the most multi-cultural city in the world, because Montreal is.

If it were Montreal vs. Toronto, I'd go with Montreal, because that's where I live quote>

hahah, you'd think we don't promote our Stadiums, but look at what's in almost every postcard of Toronto? The BIG SPANKIN' Skydome, takes up a good 1/5 of most pictures. If you mean serious business by the Canadian National Tower, well ho ho, Toronto has to be better than NYC

[hawkpride147 1]

Originally posted by: colddevil Toronto is definately better than New York, everything revolves around New York, why not Toronto? Why not Canada? Always America (No Offense).

It's so cramped in New York, and New York's most famous buildings are stadiums, that's just sad, whilst Toronto has more serious businesses to attend to rather than watching a game of baseball or whatever.

Toronto is diversed, it has alot of wide open space, I wouldn't say it's the most multi-cultural city in the world, because Montreal is.

If it were Montreal vs. Toronto, I'd go with Montreal, because that's where I live quote>

1. ever heard of the empire state building? or the chrysler building? or the world trade center?

2. toronto has more serious business to attend to? really? i think ny has plenty of serious business...most likely more than toronto...i mean, there is manhattan where offices for hundreds of large corporations are located.

3. I still would have to contend that by having the UN and embassies, and such, ny is the most. culturally diverse city...you can walk down one block in ny and hear 15 different languages...and that's in the areas where tourists won't dare go.

and finally the reason everything revolvs around ny and not toronto is this...1 size...ny is much larger population wise, 2. history...ny has been around for 400 years while toronto has been around a long time, it doesn't come close to ny, 3. the reasons i stated above, 4. tourism, 5. movies, 6. the american dream, 7. broadway...i could go on and on...

[legalizeit 18]

Originally posted by: hawkpride147 3. I still would have to contend that by having the UN and embassies, and such, ny is the most. culturally diverse city...you can walk down one block in ny and hear 15 different languages...and that's in the areas where tourists won't dare go. quote>

Toronto is, generally speaking, more diverse than New York. Almost half the population of Toronto were born outside Canada. In addition, because Canada's philosophy is multiculturalism (as vs. American assimilation), that bit of hyperbole just might literally be true in Toronto.

Toronto has more serious businesses to attend to rather than watching a game of baseball or whatever.quote>

That's because their sports teams have such an amazing spirit of loserness watching them is torture *AHEM* Leafs suck *COUGH*

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: legalizeit

Originally posted by: hawkpride147 3. I still would have to contend that by having the UN and embassies, and such, ny is the most. culturally diverse city...you can walk down one block in ny and hear 15 different languages...and that's in the areas where tourists won't dare go. quote>

Toronto is, generally speaking, more diverse than New York. Almost half the population of Toronto were born outside Canada. In addition, because Canada's philosophy is multiculturalism (as vs. American assimilation), that bit of hyperbole just might literally be true in Toronto.quote>

Just to point something out: most of the people you hear speaking foreign tongues in New York are likely tourists or people there on business. People who live in New York speak mostly English and/or Spanish.

There are pockets of the city where other languages are common, but those are the only two that really prevail pretty much all over.

[hawkpride147 1]

yeah. i was pointing out the buisness standpoint. it is such a part of ny, that it affects the culture...and the history is also very culturally diverse

[legalizeit 18]

business friendly environmentquote>

Not always a good thing! Too often it's an euphemism for letting them run amok and giving tax breaks, all of which comes at a cost to the average city-dweller. I'd much rather my city spend money improving parks and city services than give some multinational a tax break to move in - and the very fact they're enticed by that means they'll just as easily up and leave if another city gives them a better deal. We'd get too far off-topic if we went into the reasons why, but there's a reason tightly regulated economies like the Scandinavian countries have better quality of life than free-market corporatocratic ones like the United States.

It's also quite silly to just compare subway statistics. What about the streetcars? Shouldn't we include buses as well? "[city] vs. [city]" can mean so many things and there isn't really any objective way to say one is better than the other. New York obviously has a great deal more cultural and economic significance, but that doesn't necessarily make it a better place to live than in the shadow of what was for 30 years the world's tallest tower. Neither is big-city life for everyone, I'm sure some look at "New York or Toronto?" and answer "Thunder Bay" or "Providence".

[patriots_1228 51]

Originally posted by: colddevil Toronto is definately better than New York, everything revolves around New York, why not Toronto? Why not Canada? Always America (No Offense).

It's so cramped in New York, and New York's most famous buildings are stadiums, that's just sad, whilst Toronto has more serious businesses to attend to rather than watching a game of baseball or whatever.

Toronto is diversed, it has alot of wide open space, I wouldn't say it's the most multi-cultural city in the world, because Montreal is.

If it were Montreal vs. Toronto, I'd go with Montreal, because that's where I live quote>

 

and what fine institution of knowledge did you attend? New York is one of the most diverse cities in the world, much more diverse than toronto. Did you know that new york has a higher jewish population than the Tel Aviv metro (which, is in isreal, the only prodomenantly jewish country). New York happens to have this big open space too, don't know if you have heard of it, its called central park. Not to say its greener, its not, but, i bet you could fit the entire population of toronto in central park. New York is most certainly not about baseball, when i think of new york, i think of wall street, times square, buisness. More buisness goes on in NY than toronto, and thats a fact. New York only has two well-known stadiums, and im telling you that the meadowlands is not famous world wide or even country wide landmark. The only famous stadium in new york is yankees stadium, and they are tearing that peice of crap down. And i could say the same for toronto. Its only world famous landmark is an observation tower (although one cool observation tower ). New York, meanwhile, is the capitol of world renown landmarks. Times Square, Central Park, The Empire State Building, Ground Zero , The Chrysler Building, Brookyln Bridge, Yankees Stadium, Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island. Those are all landmarks that i knew before i could name one landmark in my own city, boston. Toronto is a gorgeous, wonderful city, but like every other city except for london and hong kong, it does not stack up to New York.

EDIT: Just to back up my diversity point:

Toronto is 57.2% white, where as New York is 45% white.

[kellydale2003 2,276]

I love Toronto. New york has too many problems (conjestion, pollution, heritage buildings in the way of development)

Toronto has those too. But Toronto still has room to grow. And did anyone go in the underground malls? There huge and awesome!

+ I'm Canadian!

[godjcjk12 0]

I live in LA but NYC hands down.

[your_adress_here 11]

Originally posted by: patriots_1228  i bet you could fit the entire population of toronto in central park.

quote>

Over 5 million people in Central Park? That would be interesting...

EDIT: Just to back up my diversity point:

Toronto is 57.2% white, where as New York is 45% white.quote>

From wikipedia:

Toronto is one of the world's most multicultural cities. In 2004, the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) ranked Toronto second, behind Miami, Florida, in its list of the world's cities with the largest percentage of foreign-born population, but Toronto has the highest percentage of foreign population, according to the 2006 Canadian census. Miami's foreign born population is dominated by those of Cuban and Latin American descent, unlike Toronto whose foreign born population is not dominated by any one ethnic group.quote>

[greg22 0]

ive been to both and its Toronto hands down, ive vowed to never return to New York. New Yorkers are gay, they just walk into you and *****. In Toronto they dont do that. Its the people who stop me picking new york.

[torontotransit 2]

Originally posted by: patriots_1228 granto- sorry to point it out but the NHL will fold in about 0.2 milliseconds. see, its based in america, and more americans watched some russain soap opera on channel 200 somthing, than the NHL stanley cup.quote>

THe NHL started in canada actually!! go on Wikipedia!!!The thing is that the US has more large cities so there are more teams. But the NHL is actually Canadian

[Mebert 5]

New Yorkers are gay, they just walk into you and *****.quote>

Thank you for being polite, understanding, non-stereotypical and downright un-homophobic. It's good to know that our society still produces such people.

I'd have to say New York. 8 million people beats Toronto, the Subway beats Toronto, the location beats Toronto ... sorry. Hell, New York has the world's largest man made object. Nobody else can top that.

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: Mebert Hell, New York has the world's largest man made object. Nobody else can top that.quote>

Second largest, actually. The Great Wall of China is bigger than Fresh Kills Landfill.

And, well, we may have the second largest manmade object, but it's just a huge pile of trash. Where all of the city's trash went for many years before it was closed. Not something to brag about, really.

Although it is a testament to the size of New York...

[Mebert 5]

The Great Wall of China is bigger than Fresh Kills Landfill.quote>

No, I don't think so. According to Wikipedia, the landfill has a greater volume.

[Duke87 1,070]

Originally posted by: Mebert

The Great Wall of China is bigger than Fresh Kills Landfill.quote>

No, I don't think so. According to Wikipedia, the landfill has a greater volume.quote>

And they seem to have a legit citation, too. Well, my source was a trivia book published in 1994, so I guess it was out of date.

[greg22 0]

something for New York to be proud of, the Landfill!!!, you know where Toronto sends its trash?....Michigan!!........."Detroit...Toronto's dump"

[Godzillaman 21]

Originally posted by: greg22 something for New York to be proud of, the Landfill!!!, you know where Toronto sends its trash?....Michigan!!........."Detroit...Toronto's dump"quote>

One the deal expires though, they aren't going to accept any more...apparently...

[robertg0902 0]

Hey don't Toronto compare it's self with Toronto you know Toronto the city and Toronto the suburbs and see how that goes.

[robertg0902 0]

Hey don't Toronto compare it's self with Toronto you know Toronto the city and Toronto the suburbs and see how that goes.