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Love that foggy effect is awesome clint!

England (a logic one)quote> England doesn't exist as an independent state. You actually mean the UNITED KINGDOM of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. England is NOT synonymous with UK. Secondly, I doubt anyone charged with terrorism has been tortured in the U.K, perhaps used by the U.S to TRANSFER to countries where torture is allowed. That is all.

Such Drama Simfan! Obviously, New Rhodesia felt the need to sanction your nation after it was caught red handed bribing nations against us!

Beautiful!

very British Muzz, Looking Great!!!

Very pretty Union Day Update Jeb, SCJU PRIDE!! Love the drama about the hostage situation, too!

Outstanding, Carmine. Beautiful! You make the SCJU Proud! x

Metacafe has ads before the videos. Ads which prevent the video from loading if you try and adblock them, to boot. Therefore, Youtube>Metacafe. And since when is Youtube a community? Seems like nothing more than a place to post videos to me...quote> Is any of that even relevant? I honestly don't think so. Great video my friend, I really enjoyed it!

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No, I'm really trying to paint it as anything. I didn't say that The Netherlands endorses that. I didn't say that their doctors were trained to bump off their sick patients. quote> Still Voar, your choice of wording left alot to be desired about neutrality, and not having a dig at the Netherlands for having Euthanasia as part of their universal healthcare. I'm pointing out that A) the potential is there for people in state-run programs to not truly care about their clients, in this case patientsquote> and how is that in anyway different to capitalist healthcare systems? We're talking about systems not people or culture within those systems that allow for individuals within those systems to not care about patients. Again, it has nothing to do with state-run or privately run hospitals, it has everything to do with human nature, internal bureaucracy, culture and law. State run hospitals are no more inclined to be oppressive or negative toward their patients than Capitalist hospitals are to not treat the homeless. It's a gross stereotype either way. B) it's much easier for the state to take that kind of opinion and force it on you when they control the service.quote> But you're forgetting one tiny detail. LAWS and Rights (both national and international). One's rights in relation cannot be infringed upon without the consent of the people, at least here in the UK and the NHS here, imho does a truly wonderful job. State-run anything is, in reality, a monopoly, and no one needs to look past Microsoft to see where that can get the world. quote> That's a gross generalisation if I ever did see one! LOL at the time, even the UN wasn't impressed with what it saw.quote> Actually the article said: "The U.N wasn't convinced abuses would not happen", not that "it wasn't impressed", judging that there hasn't been a massive backlash since the date of that article (2002 btw), it seems that their fears were ultimately ungrounded, or that its just not happening on a scale the UN expected. As for U.N, it wasn't impressed with the U.S.A going into an illegal war against the principles and articles of the U.N charter, but that's a discussion for another time. Now, stepping aside from what they are doing in the Netherlands, the real point of the issue is that abuse happens (in this case, I'm using euthanasia as an example) and it's much easier to ramrod abuse through on to people when the state controls the service.quote> But again, no systems is perfect, there will ALWAYS be abuses of the system. but that's not to say the system is at fault, moreso the human beings exploiting it. You seem to believe that there is some difference between the evil controlling government and the poor defenceless people (which is what I am getting from your posts), whereas most Europeans take the stance that the government is composed OF the people. We tend not to differentiate, because our checks and balances (within parliamentary systems at least) tend to protect the people from anyone seeking to exploit them, at least to the degree you seem to be implying. Second of all, I don't see at all how state-run medical service is any more prone to abuse, than say a corporation solely concerned with profit at the expense of peoples health. In fact, in my eyes, I'd say a corporation, whose sole purpose to survive is profit, is MUCH more of a threat to abuses, if it prioritises economic gain over its consumers. Rather than a nationalised healthservice that provides a service via taxation. Let's say the hypothetical state of You Suck existed and they had a law saying that anyone over 75 was to be put down. In a government-controlled system like that, there's little that the average citizen can do except to hope to overthrow the government. In a private system where the government doesn't control it, if you have a doctor that decides to kill off patients over 75, all of his patients are going to go somewhere else when they get to that age. quote> but see that's the crux of your argument, and it's biggest failing, is that it's ALL hypothetical.. Hypothetically more prone to push certain agendas against the people, Hypothetically more prone to abuse than capitalist healthcare, etc... While in reality, I don't see how "socialist medicine" is in anyway more inclined to abuse than capitalist ones. Free enterprise is about choice. Government-controlled services rarely offer choice.quote> free Enterprise is also about profit and the accumilation of wealth, as the great fellow welshman Aneurin Bevan woud say if he were still alive: "Profit has no place in Healthcare". I would rather go to any state run hospital that would offer near or equal service ANYWHERE in the UK, than go to "one of my choice" and be slammed with a £4000 bill after whatever. But that's my opinion. Socialism leans towards the idea of the government controlling everythingquote> No that's your opinion, I believe someone posted a definition a few posts back. I invite you to scroll up and check it out. This is part of why Africa never gets out of poverty. Money is sent there by the truckload and because the government controls everything (and they're corrupt), nothing ever gets done. quote> That's an INCREDIBLY simplistic view to the situation in Africa. It is FAR more complex. How about EU protectionism? drought? Global Warming? Internal War? Exploitation? Slavery? Genocide? Lack of water? There are a MYRIAD of reasons why Africa is in the position it is is, simply explaining it away because of an evil corrupt government linked with an idea of socialist medicine, is frankly bizarre!

LOL, sorry Voar. But I cannot possibly believe that, no more than I would believe that the current U.S administration was responsible for 9/11. More likely, she was confused and the doctor recommended the most humane option available. You dress it up as a European Totalitarian state, that forces citizens into euthanasia, while clearly not the case. Occams Razor and all that.

thankyou for the lovely mention Carmine! <3

Hey Glenni, a firend linked me to your CJ and the drama over at SC4D. I have to say that the whole thing is completely over the top. It seems to me that on reading the "mod comments" about the reason your CJ was banned, was because your historical narrative was not pro-American, or Western-Centric. Your narrative therfore, is "offensive", because its content is not agreeable or comfortable with those in power. Unfortunately, for them, they fail to grasp that it's a CJ, not a wikipedia entry and that the views expressed in your CJ are merely one side of the picture. Somehow I feel that if someone bashed the USSR along a similar narrative, that would be acceptable. As always, you're welcome to post your CJ at the SCJU. It's a shame other sites don't respect that freedom of speech doesn't equate to agreeing with a westernised standpoint. Shame, but at least I can enjoy CJ here. Best Regards Sixu.

That's presuming the planet even was ours that they landed on.. Considering we saw no recognisable landmasses from orbit.

such a wonderful mosaic of an airport hotdogs! Really well done!

[image Removed: Image Size Limits are 800x600] - BarbulaM1, I have provided a link below to the imagehttp://www.newrhodesia.org/images/advunderg.jpg Above is a geographical representation of the lines in question. coollotter88: For the ares that have been constructed, as fas I am aware they handle traffic just fine. wallasey: Thanks Pal! It took teo freakin' days!

The New Rhodesian Underground: Images must be 800x600 or less.--hym

Wallasey, are you into Nation Roleplaying at all? New Rhodesia (the province) is part of the "Free Kingdom of Wales" which is inturn a member state of the SimCity Journal Union. I was wondering if you'd be interested in joining?

Loving those gorgeous canals, Luke!

Very Sexy Carmine, you do the SCJU proud with your updates.

You're getting progressively better and better at SC4 building, remember, the most import aspect is DETAIL. Follow that general rule, and you will go far.

Amazing! Really great and interesting turn of events to the Pheonoia situation.

Brilliant Slann, lovely use of graphics here!