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Date: 1/18/2006 10:06:39 AM Author: generalee7 Hey all, my computer is crashing so I hope this isn't a double post. Has there been any work on diagonal runways (if they are even possible)?quote> I Sure hope that those crashes aint related to this pack Diagonal Runways are possible, with a lot of this and that. One could make textures for every peice and the making of the runway would be a massive jigzaw puzzle. We had someone working on it earlier, though trying it out with BAT's(Overhaning Props) bit it never got finished. Yes its possible, if the end-user is predared for a long grueling task(like building an airport isnt enough ^^) Cheers //Sim

TeddyB, Some people just are very selfish by nature and would rather whine about something than do something about it. They just want someone to blame, its a lot better doing as you did, and help out, and im thankful for your help ^^ And il be sure to remember your name when the time comes to test something new ^^ Cant wait to se that Airbase/Airport, Im hoping on releasing some nice new shiny jets as soon as work out how to bat them... Squares are easy, so are arches and so, but Fighters... nay, not quite so. ^^ Equilibria, I Like your airport, and the pond in the middle of the main terminal is very nice addition, good fantasy for filler there. Cheers //Sim

Date: 1/15/2006 2:01:40 PM Author: ten1902 so is it cool to use now, i mean have all the known bugs and kinks been worked out. im really excited to use these BATs but i wanna make sure all is good b4 i DL them quote> I personally havnt had chance to test it out, but Swamper77 had the BSC test team test the patch so yeah, its safe to use and all known kinks and gimmits have been worked out and have been solved, though id still recomend you to save regularly, that way you dont have to be afraind to lost stuff if the game decides it needs a pause ^^ Cheers //Sim

I updated the file several hours ago, anyway, the main file is updated an is located here. Everyone should download the updated pack and read the installation instructions closley, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! DBrasil, This bug has been fixed in ver 2.3, otherwise your english is good! Yes, the concepy could go far, we allready have seaports and trailparks, even a stadium kit i belive. But yes, if someone was to BAT all the buildings required and make a pack. I Do have a Ferry-Terminal(Ala European Ferry port) but i currently have batting on hold, partly because of this incedent with SWAP and majorly because of lack of RL time. metro_edwin, Unfortunatley its impossible to make a airport function as a regional one, but there is a lot that is designed to be an illusion of this, the Airport Tram, is an airport that looks like a bus-station. I Know that the it al looks like 50tis-70ties style, then again, most airports were build duting that era. I to would love to se some modern looking terminals, but that is way above my current level of skill in the bat. Furious M, You must have been searching while i updated the file, it should be up again now. I couldnt get onto the forums while updating(due to ST beeing overcroweded) so i couldnt inform about the update. sorry Cheers //Sim

E.J.C, The fix is also on the STEX, i have not yet ben able to update the file because of trouble with my PC's Raid5 Array. Im currently Recovering the 380GB's, and lets say that its not a fast process. About the region, at the most you have lost the work in one(1) city-tile, since thats the tile with the airport in. Im sorry that you had to lose even that much, but ranting still dosnt solve the problem, it at its best makes you feel good for awhile. norbutt2001, Thanks, Though i did have a 1 month closed testing and didnt get any reported crashes, i myself havent even been able to replicate the crashes eather, so I assumed that the problem was client side. The code is all greek to me, and i cannot se mistakes done there, Swamper77 luckily can, and did. The Fix is on the stex, released by Swamper77. Im going to update the Swap-File ASAP, that means as soon as my hard drive is recoverd and safe. I will inform everyone as soon as ive updated the File, until then i recomend not building any more airports, or downloading the fix and selfinstalling it. Cheers //Sim

Update, Swamper77 Just released a FIX onto the stex, im having trouble with my Windows and my E drive, so i cannot update the original file yet. to install this update you first need to go in and destroy any terminal buildings you might have build, these are the affected terminals: -All Joergs Terminals -Swap Medium Terminal -Swap Small Terminal Sorry for any inconvinence, there was a fault in the coding, that i was totaly unaware of, Swamper77 has been kind enough to lend his free time to fix this. *And there was much rejoicing* Il post another note here when the original SWAP file is updated, now ive got a major software-bug to fix on my PC, and if it comes to the worst, lets just say that EVERYTHING that was of any importance on my PC is gone. and its a lot worse than losing an city tile, even if amoing those files are all my sc4 stuff. Anyways, Cheers //Sim Edit: Date: 1/11/2006 6:19:23 PM Author: norbutt2001 EJC you are going a tad too far but I reallly can understand your anger, I am angry still, not because I lost a city which I had worked for months with (well I was extremly angry at the time), but because of the amount of time SWAP has been availbale without a fix, and in all honesty I can't see that much effort has actually been put into finding a fix, but who knows.quote> Sc4, is a hobby of mine, not work, and this term has been really buisy, my 2 journals have more or less faded away, and im trying to find time to update them, time that dosnt exist, and then there is BATin, and this Bug-Fixing. There now is a fix, even though all of this, and its not because of me, thank swamper77 for the fix. But please, dont judge my effort, its hard work just to find time to try to work somthing out in a language you dont even understand(Sc4 code), and its not really motivating to continue whith people like you that just complain. try doing as Swamper77 and do somethig about the problem instead of whining. I Thought i made it perfectly clear in my previous post that i dont want any more Idiotic Whining posts that dont serve a single pupouse here. if youve got something to add, or a quiestion that isnt answerd earlier in the thread, post. But if your just gonna post saying how much you have lost, dont, it dosnt help me, it dosnt help others, so stop beeing so self headed and go figure how to help instead. These kind of posts dont really motivate for further BATing nor bugfixing, id rather spend my time Playing a game or doing something fun. Also while at it, I dont have as much time for doing these things as most members, i have a full schedule allready. Cheers //Sim Edit2: Just noticed that there was a LOT more posts than what i previosley thought. E.J.C, Sorry to say this, ENOUGH WITH THE WINING! just shut up! norbutt2001, I noticed you had made a lot more posts before, and just to clarify, all above is not mentiond for you, but for the general public, i commented the fact that you didnt think that effort had been put in, and got carried away(il let it stand there though anyway) Swamper77, Thanks for your post, which everyone should read! Il update the file as soon as i get my PC back to normal state, last post i made from school. Once again, Thanks Swamper77 for the Bugfix. Also, i might add the reason for not withdrawing the Pack. -1- Not everyone was having problems -2- I Couldt replicate the problems reported That usually means that the problem is client-side, the downloaders side so to say. this wasnt the case as swamper77 confirmed, but im still curious of why it worked for me, and for a others aswell. Cheers, now im going to try to fix my PC //Sim

Hello everyone, and today i bring great news, but first and foremost, some personal replies to folk. The boy formerly known as Evil Muzz, You seem to have a vvery similar sollution as teddyb4492, and as teddy's later post seems to confirm, it works. teddyb4492, A Big thanks to your testing, and as you say, it seems to work, *bows* Really nice airport there too, absolutley huge. Oh, and the leading times are probably due to having such a large city, the more tiles that are used the longer load time (The pictures are a bit to big though, could you resize them to fit ST's regulations(800*600@ norwoodman, You dont have a bug, you have a missing dependancy ^^ check the readme, there sould be a link for Maxis landmark props be sure you have it. and the other dependancies too while youre at it. DBrasil, I am deeply sorry about your loss of time and effort, and as noted just below, a solution is hopfully close to becoming a reality. norbutt2001, Im sorry for your you too, and as mentioned below, a fix is in progress and hopefully it will fix all the problems. As for others bugfixing their bats, they do have the time and skills requierd for this, And to say that Airports are one of the weirdest things in the game in how they work, its a hard thing for someone like me to fix. Imagine trying to correct the spelling in a swahili text, when its the first time you actually encounter the language. Luckely we have people that are very talented at Simtropolis, and this thread has become a cry for help, and those cries were finaly aswerd. --------------- Its not a deal that i dont want to fix the bugs, i just dont know how, i figured if i could narrow it down to one reason i might be able to fix it, and a lot of people have been very helpful in trying to help me doing so, Hopefully we will all get a nice updated bugfree version soon, now that we do have one of the most tallented coders on the job. I understand that people are mad, id be too, but instead of just ranting, try helping. Its a modern-world problem, people sitting on their chairs complaining about what should and could be done, but i feel that if you dont try to help the slightest, you really dont have the right to rant. Ive gotten useful help, thoughts and ideas from people who know even less about coding sc4 than i do, and its been very helpful, bringing a problem to the surface is great, trying to help fixing it is greater, however complaning about how much you lost because of it serves no pourpose and should be kept inside your mouth(or fingers in this case) at all costs. That above is to all those who ranted, complained and even expressed hate towards me, without even trying to help. THIS IS THE GREAT NEWS!!!!! I just got a PM from a member, i highly aclaimed bug-fixer, and he thinks he has found a solution to the crashes, one in a patch format, a file so to speak. This is going to go through some closed testing to se through that it really dose eliminate the cause for the crashes, meanwhile im gonna ask you to try using Teddys solution, Saving every 15 minutes and letting the game run a few months at the same time. Maby even save more often on a slower computer. Ps. Merry Chrismas and a Happy New Year! Cheers //Sim

Shintose Evo Journal By Xiziz Introduction Hello everyone, i guess most off you have seen my name around, probably in one of my 3 prior journals (Stockholm, Stondon, Fwandrei, *sigh* all victims of harddrive crashes, but that will never happen again, thanx to some special precations listed a bit lower down). Im here to let my new Journal LIVE! This journal will be very different from my prior jornals, in quite a few ways. Not only begining at the top of my building skills, it will be cheat free(well exept for god-mode terraforming tools/trees), and the most absurb idea ive ever come up with... A Story, for once, one that will be vary weird and on the edge. But thats me, normal things freek me out ^_- The story is a continuation on the Fwandrei plot, though i rewrote Fwandreis plot, spicing it up a bit. if you have read Fwandrei you might recognise some places, if not, dont fear, it wont be needed. but most people seemed to think it was good, especially the latter part, if you do want to read it. System & Imagerules All pictures will be smaller than 640px wide, 480px high(per image, sevral images might be combined to create a large one. All Pictures will obide by the ST recomendation of <200kb. All Pictures will be hosted at Imageshack.us (might host large(region) pics on a separate web page, for downloading.My computer is running Windows XP Pro with the current specs as listed: Motherboard: EPoX 8KDA+ Processor: AMD 64 3000+ @ 2,00ghz(OCed to 2,50ghz sometimes) Memory: Corsair VS PC 3200, 1024mb(2x512) Graphics: Hercules 9600 256mb Harddrive: 1x 37gb WD Raptor for Sysem/programs/games Harddrive: 4x 120gb Seagate Barricuda alligned in a Raid10(Stripe+mirrir) Array, for failsafe data storage, this is where the region and all plugins are stored. in theory its so safe that i could Nail one of the harddrives to my wall, then throw it into a barrel of water, then screw it to peices and feed half ef them to my cats, and all the data would still be intact ^^ no more losing valuable data for me. Mods and Plugins Terrain mods: Ground Fog(Gizmo), MossyGranite Rock Mod(Pegasus), Brigantine Water Mod(Pegasus), No Palms(Swamper77), Middle European Climate Mod(Terirusu), Snow Capped Mountains(Terirusu), God Mode Pine Tree Mod(Pegasus). Automata mods: Bus & Train & EL & Mono Skins(Andreas Roth), Aircraft(Juntae0914). Transit: NAM(Various), EuroRoadTexturesMod & Zebra Crossing(Morifari), TunnelSlopeMod-b(BRF), Freight Station Change Mod(Erazor), Brige Height Mod(Joerg), Street Culdesac's(Qurlix), No One Way Road Arrows(Tropod). User Interface: GraphModd. V2(Tropod), TransportationMap Modd(Tropod), Edmonton Transportation Map Mod(TheJerseyDevil), Data view Mod(Thalassicus), Expanded UI Mod(Equinox). Gameplay mods: IndustryQuadrupler(Toroca), OperaHouse(Toroca), Prevent I-R lots(GranpaAl).With those in my 456mb Pluginsfolder are about 1783 Files, making a grand total of 1869 Files in 405 Folders. Region The Region is a grayscale called Island of Mindanao Indonesia ver. 2 by our flamesrock , though the isle was heavly reterraformed ingame, to siut some future needs, thereafter coverd in Pines. Great region though ^^ The Grand History, the Saga begins here, the above is purley informational. Prelude, Chapter 1, The Great war The Great War ravaged the Earth for hundreds of years, during this war humanity spread across the solarsystem. Leaving nothing but death and decimated populations behind them. Earth's original countris had united under 2 flags, The Union of Earth and The Alliance of Earth. The Union had the larger resourses and far more countries, but the people of The Alliance had stod the test of wars for thousands of years. The Alliance Consisting of the countries from Europe and some of Asia, The Union consisting of the rest of the industrialised world. While constantley beeing fought further away from the earth as time passed, The Alliance devised a secret plan, and entrusted all they had into it. They made their Stronghold on the Icey clump of metal called Pluto, the last stable body of rock before the vastness of space. As The Union battled The Alliance unaware of the plan The Alliance had devised to end the war, The Alliance had all resources on developing the requierd systems and keeping The Union at bay. The war raged for another 50 or so years before The Union got any hints about The Alliance secret plans. They responded by increasing the preasure on The Alliance. The Alliance started to lose ground, having to fall back from the moons of Saturn, with The Union allways behind them, they made a stand at Neptune. This stand was only to give time for the final preparations for the plan to be inisiated. They fought the longest battle humanity had seen since the days of Troy in the dead cold space above Neptune. Prelude, Chapter 2, The Alliance secret plan Early one cold morning outside Neptune the order for the Alliance fleet to be withdrawn was given, and a hasty retreat to Pluto followed. In a few hours they would leave the Sol system for good, leave all the death and destruction behind, and begin a new life far away, very far away. The Alliance had held out long enough to develop and build 4 Giant sleeperships, A small selection of the populous of the Alliance was loaded onto the ships, and put into a deep freeze. their destination was a planet named Ishantrissti on the other side of the galaxy, they had estimated it to take hundreds of years, even with the new Anti-Quark Hyperdrives. As the sun set on beoynd the canyonwalls the Sleeper ships were awakend. The Luxembourg took the lead, tightly followed by The Pevek, The Fujian and The Chitose. As they blasted of the little rock, the Union was aproacing, the Alliance musterd every fighting able man, woman and even children to fight them back. This battle proved to be a short one, but in the midst of all fighting the Sleeper Ships were launched. The Alliance sucsessfully defended the 4 spaceships while they enterd orbit and began their slow automated flight to Ishantrissti. About 14 days later the Alliance was wiped out of existance in the Sol system, by a new weapon the Union had devised, one that blasted entire planets into small fragments. Such a horrid weapon Anhilated about 1

Allybabba & Leech, soon i hope, i really do. I just dont have time right now(even the Holidays are keeping me busy). Civ4 didnt help that much eather. I was planning a massive X-mas update, but i never got time to finish the work for it :/ Just noticed ST has a countdown till the next year, and its correct for my timezone ^^ yay! cheers //Sim (Edit... Just so you know... im not planning on updating this CJ anymore, due to lack of time, id rather spend the few hours i play sc4 on the Pakkusena related cities)

I dont know if you get this over there, but i think Rocky is the best strip, I also quite enjoy Foxtrott. Rocky used to be in the free Morrning paper in Stockholm, Foxtrott is in it now ^^ cheer //Sim

Date: 12/23/2005 3:36:45 AM Author: teddyb4492 Ok I would like to reply to all of this with some of my own speculation. I was noticing all the concern but had not seen any problems until yesterday. About 2 weeks ago I started a new city, only one in the new region. I was really doing this to just build a new airport. I was working on a 5 runway 6 terminal, and fully loaded transport hub. It was almost 3/4 of a whole large map. When I logged off yesterday to do some other work, and when I came back last night, during load up of the city it crashed 3 times. I tried a few changes, and still the same. But this had never happened before with SWAP, as I said I had been working on this city for a few weeks now. But the game will load other cities, just not the supper airport one. So, what was I doing right before this happened - I had just added 3 more SWAP terminals and about 15 of the medium hubs. So don't know if this has anything to do with it or not. Prior to this I had been using SWAP since it came out and had no problems what’s so ever. And as for system speculation – I don’t think that is it. I am using WinXP SP2, with a P4 2.53, and 2048Ram pc2700. As well as optimizing the windows swap file to 4096. So my system can hang with it. I was just thinking if the problem could be related to different instances or the number of instances’ that you have of a SWAP file in any given city?. Just a thought. Hope to hear an answer to this issue soon, I am not going to just Nuc the city, at least just not yet. in hopes that this can be fixed. Any ideas?????? quote> This is the first time anything has hit that could be the cause of the problem, it might be when adding to many Airport Enabled Peices(Small & Medium Terminals / All Joergs Prefab Terminals) on the same map. Im not sure if this is the problem, and i still dont have time to make a full error-sweep, if anyone is able to test this out, id be glad for the help. Just load up an empty tile in an empty region and fill it out with Swap Medium Terminals, save it and try to load it after restarting the game. If this is the problem, im gonna make them pure Eyecandy(All the swap peices) and put them back in the net. Its a simple switch, but if it isnt the problem then its a waste of time. Id like to know if this is the problem before making an hasted fix that wont garatied fix the problem anyway. Thanks for all the help. Cheers //Sim

Stockholm got quite a few of those nasty buildings, it was called the Million Project, during the time when sweden imported huge ammounts of people to fuel our rising economy, well, they all needed somewhere to live, aswell as all the kiddos that were growing up. Cheap Appartemts were neded, and these extrodinarily ugly things were erected, altough most of them still stand today, as still, there is nowhere to move to within the greater-city. As for driving on the Righthand side, Sweden only changed 3rd of september 1967, Long after napoleon ate the dust ^^ But the Tube still runs on the left side. Cheers //Sim

Date: 12/16/2005 9:35:49 AM Author: Madhollander i'm running on windows XP Home SP2 so it should work. . . @KiraDarkRose Sounds logical, but cannot be the problem, i had a new city that i started long after installing swap and that city crashed on the swap (only had an airport in it) @normac hmm, could be so, but if it's a conflict this is gonna be hard to solve, i did'nt have that (or any) station in my savedgame when it crashedquote> Running Sc4 under XP home, Win98, XP 64, it makes no difference, if anything it would be the setup of your system and the setup of your windows installation. But i doubt its caused by something outside Sc4. It is a Conflict, no doubt about that, since some people are experienceing problems, other not. I for one dont experience any problems, other do. Kiradarkrose might be on to something, but it dosnt seem to be universal. Edit: Shadow Assn, No, ive got the the downloaded version aswell, since its packed up. I have the rest of the files in a separeate folder outside the plugins folder Cheers //Sim

Welcome to page 3, please read the bottom of the previous page, and the rest of the pages... this post is the cause of a double post, second time this happens to me... Cheers //Sim

Madhollander: I just have to say thank you big time for taking this on, its a huge relief and a big weight of my already overburdend Shoulders. *Bowes & Waves* Btw, i do have a hat on every day... i should get a picture of it into that picture thready some day, its a very nice hat, and even more comfortable ^^ Thanx Again! Cheers //Sim

Im glad so many peole are helping us correct this problem, I right now dont have the free time to find out and correct this problem, and wont have before X-Mas, and probably not even over chrismas Holidays, ive just got to much IRL going on, and to be frank, i have to prioritise RL. though, if you manage to find out Exactley what Lot is Causing Problems, or What Combinations of Lots are causeing problems, i might be able to find time for a quick-fix and get the problem solved. Im glad you help eachother out aswell, as i dont have that much time for this eather. What i could do is just release TH's Original pack with the SWAP as pure Eyecandy(Landmark/Park) Versions, that say they wont help out with the Capacity. This will eliminate any problems with the SWAP(Eye-Candy Then), though any problems related to TH's Pack will still be there. Sorry for the Bad news... Cheers //Sim

Date: 12/10/2005 1:34:42 AM Author: da_sim_dude Yeah Im also gonna get that for christmas man it looks soo much better than NFSU2.Plus its got more american cars like the BMW and the Corvette(not that im a big fan of american cars,ima big fan of imports =))quote> I hope you know that BMW is german right? ^^ oh, and if i didnt say earlier, i got my game working, i was just missing a driver its awsome! Cheers //Sim

Date: 12/4/2005 3:01:11 PM Author: Alkaola it's a GREAT game, i got it but it requires a BIG BOSS computer systemquote> Nah, my Mid-end Computer runs it Flawlessly.(If you really need, i write the specs down too) Also my very old Low-End computer also runs it, and thats only speced at 1ghz with some 3*128mb of SDRam. Though it dose have an ATI 9600 in it. But AOE3 is awsome i think, though ive almost exclusivly played multiplayer, and the Computer Oponents throw a very good fight! Cheers //Sim

Date: 12/3/2005 5:56:31 PM Author: Equilibria I would say that all of this is boto opinion and debatable, since there are very defined schools of architectural thought. Being from Boston, I would like to present a pair of atrocities that (in my opinion) currently afflict our humble town. quote> I dont even wanna know what designed that atrocity.... Ive got a place i really hate in Stockholm, That beeing Slussen the busstaion i pass through 2 times a day, every day. It looks like its gonna fall down any second now, concrete design built in 1935, designed for the trafic of that day, its not only overcroweded, its actually falling appart(ive gotta get a camera there to show you)... And most of Stockholm's central Skyscrapers are horrendous, With the exeption of Kungstornen more or less... H

Date: 12/2/2005 11:23:52 PM Author: Fischbob Can you spell E-E-K? Because that's what I yelled when I opened my scapegoat city to test out my theory. The same city wherein I had a few weeks back built and tested the SWAP terminals to see if they were crashing my cities. At the end of the tests I deleted the airport, saved and quit. Coming back to that same city a few minutes ago, I didn't expect it to crash BEFORE I started testing out my latest theory. But it did. That makes 3 out of 4 custom airports that have fallen prey to this corruption. The only surviving one just has the older terminals, not the SWAP modular ones. I'm going back to check and see if THIS airport has also gone with the wind.quote> This is Weird, beacause of all of the airports avie built with Swap (Thats about 10-12, not including testairports) ive never experienced a crash. Not with the old nor the new terminals. Id really like to se this resolved, but since ive never encounterd the problem myself, and have been completley unable to replicate the problem, no matter how ive built. Even with all the decriptions people have made, ive still failed to crash SC4. Oh, and i dont know what you mean by EEK, since your talking about your problem, not the eeky look the the buildings Cheers //Sim

currently im 300km's from my computer visiting my dads work, so i cannot test anything right now. I have tested EVERY lot included with the pack, and they are all working, i did this prior to release. I will recheck them again once i get home. I didnt test the Maxis Airports, so i check them out too. And just to make it clear again, i have sofar been completley unable to reproduce the crashes several members are experiencing. Even if i Only have the downloaded version of SWAP2.2 in my plugins folder. But there is a problem to be fixed, we just have to figure out what it is. superchad: I will try to test them once i get home. I Also have the Tram in one of my cites and ive noticed no problems with it so far. SimNewbie83: Personally id sugest you use NDEX parking lots for areas intown, since they give Landmark/Park effect, and makes mass transit more effective around them. Though the Parking shouldnt be the problem, il test this once i get home too. lu.j.sim: Since when where Airports Cheap? Ive just followed the general guidelines Thallasicus gave me to work with for pricing.

I didnt get to play it, as Windows xp x64 seems to not like it,(tryed installing it from a freind), But it seems really cool, and fun, and its the best selection of cars since Hot Pursuit(the first one), though i still want to have a Lambourgini Diablo SV again ^^ Its just THE coolest car in the world! I never did stick to the Undergroundgames, they were to hiphoppy for me, and to much adjusted to styling your car with ugly upgrades. otherwise ive liked NFS2, 3(Hot Pursuit), 5(Porche). Im kinds dying to play this game ^^ im gonna have to hijack my friends computer and play it ^^ Cheers //Sim