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I don't understand the industries DLC and budget window's profits

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Hello,

I am baffled. I have a large oil area in my city made up from the Industries DLC. On the oil overview window it is making C30K which breaks down as-

-640 import
+2,440 Petroleum
+33,600 Plastics
- upkeep 4,696

profit of 30,663

I understand this.

However on the budget screen I get -

Oil

Income 2,400
expenses 6,104
Profit -3,704

I don't understand this!

I don't have any zoned oil, just the DLC - so why are these so different? How can I make a profit of over 30k and a loss of around 3k from the same thing?

What happened to that 30k profit?

Anyone any ideas?

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    Hello again,

    Well having fiddled around with this I am still stuck.

    Here are 2 screenshots to show the issue. Oil industry first.

    It looks like all my industries DLC areas have this behaviour.

    I believe that the costs of the storage tanks in the oil area are not taken into account in the industry area budget as these can be placed anywhere, however these costs are fixed as are the costs for the various collectors and processors in the area. So the only variable is how much each of these collectors and processors produce - and since this fluctuates the profit in the industry zone will fluctuate(?).

    If I'm correct then it makes sense that the profit in each of the industries DLC zones will rise and fall.

    The main budget screen makes no sense though. Why are the oil expenses 6k+? Where has that extra 2k come from? Its not the storage as that's accounted for in the factories and warehouse expenses at the bottom.

    Where's the 30k+ profit vanished to? The budget screen is only showing 2.4k *:???:

    Something is also odd with the oil ind. acquisition calculation. 48 barrels of oil are being collected/imported and 48 barrels are being used to make plastic. However an additional 12 barrels are being used to make petrol. Could this be due to a warehouse making up the deficit?

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    It might be worth asking this over on the official forums. There's a chance the developers will see it and answer. I have no idea why there's a difference in the numbers and I'm not sure anyone in the community has figured it out either. 


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    I think it's being credited to warehouses for whatever reason. You've got huge income and expenses and 33k profit in warehouses

    Also, it doesn't say plastic is using 48 barrels, but 48 tons, so 12 barrels + 48 tons = 48 barrels. Not sure how they calculated that, I think an oil barrel is only 160 liters in real life

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    It helps having a background in accountancy :)

    The £30K profit belongs to the Highland Refining Site company.   The figures show that they export the petroleum ($2400) and sell the plastics to the local warehouse. ($33600).  The important point here is that Highland Refining Site is a standalone company, albeit owned by Gorse Valley.

    Warehouses are also companies owned by Gorse Valley. We can see they exported $107,714.63 worth of goods. Included in that is the plastics supplied by Highland Refining Site. We cannot tell how much plastic was exported, or how much markup they added - the warehouses only report their combined income and expense.

    The Economy screen refers to the Gorse Valley economy and only includes exports in the income figures. i.e. the plastic being sold to the warehouse is internal to the city and has no effect on the economy.  So as @Quintus5 said, the $30K profit can be found within the warehouse figure, for it is the warehouse that exports the plastic.

    The Economy screen is misleading. At first glance, it looks like the oil industry loses $3700 - but without it, the warehouses would not be making a profit.  The important figure is the total profit in both screens. If either are negative, then you are losing money.

     

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    If you're using DLC Industries (Which I recommend and DO ALL the time every time) then screw the budget screen.  It doesn't really apply to the DLC.  DLC Industry profits are not based on budget numbers or the tax schedule. 

    In Oil;  The 30,664 figure under Total Profits is all you need be concerned with.  

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