Looking for a 4x2 R$$$ Chicago-style Luxury Condos building

[Psiman 177]

As discussed in this thread, I want to move the Maxis Ingebretson Place building from the Chicago medium-density Luxury Condos bracket to the New York high-density Hi-rise Luxury Condos backet. For one, it is massively-oversized for the Luxury Condos group, and secondly its architectural style is New York c.1930s. It's pictured in the screenshot below with the other Luxury Condos buildings, divided by building set (Chicago, New York, Houston, Euro).

Moving this building, however, would mean that there isn't a Chicago-style R$$$ Stage 6 building or lot.

I've been looking through STEX to try and find a suitable replacement but haven't found anything. Does anyone know of any building that would be suitable? It would have to pass for Chicago-style and fit in size-wise with the other Luxury Condos.

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I still haven't found anything. I'm considering attempting to undertake making something myself, and have been looking at Chicago buildings from that time.

If I make one, then I think I might use the Pullman Building (below) as a basis, but make it symmetrical with a turret at each of the front corners. It would also be less deep.

The "Women's Temple" may also serve as extra inspiration.

Here's another interesting lost Chicago building from that time, the "Masonic Temple".

[CT14 2,486]

Great prototypes! For the Pullman Building, the deep side looks like a good match for 4 tiles in 4x2... Lacking elevation drawings, one may use the measuring feature in Google Maps to figure out these kinds of distances.

As you've probably already found, there are floorplans and lots more information on the following site:

http://www.pullman-museum.org/theCompany/pullmanBuilding.html

I also very much like the Tremont House which occupied the site of the Pullman Building before its construction. Note the barriers on the street trees - presumably to keep them from being damaged by wagons! But, this is rather pre-1890...

[T Wrecks 10,210]

Ah yes, this Maxis building  sure is oversized. I do have the impression that the game was pretty rushed, and this is one of the consequences.

I have recently compiled my plugins suite for residential mid-rise apartment blocks, but unfortunately I haven't come across a suitable 4x2 replacement, either.

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19 hours ago, CT14 said:

As you've probably already found, there are floorplans and lots more information on the following site:

http://www.pullman-museum.org/theCompany/pullmanBuilding.html

 

Thanks. I'd not seen that.

Do you know of any other buildings from the Chicago 1890 period that might be suitable? The Pullman Building was the only building I could find that was the right size and could pass for R$$$ residential - it was at least partly residential. All the other tall multi-story buildings in Chicago around that time that I've seen have been commercial office buildings, and more box-like in design.

Here are a couple of smaller residential buildings from the time, but they perhaps don't look as R$$$ as the Pullman Building.

The Yale Apartments:

The Brewster Apartments (originally known as the Lincoln Park Palace)

Here are some other buildings. Thalia Hall, stylistically similar to the Pullman Building, but different colour stone/brick: 

  
This picture looks as if it says "The Lake View Apartment....", and with lots of balconies, I guess it would have been residential:

It's slightly reminiscent of the commercial Old Colony Building:

And this picture shows a front view of The Pullman Building:

18 hours ago, T Wrecks said:

Ah yes, this Maxis building  sure is oversized. I do have the impression that the game was pretty rushed, and this is one of the consequences.

I was surprised to only find one mention on the internet of Ingebretson Place being too large, as it literally sticks out like a sore thumb! 

[T Wrecks 10,210]

6 hours ago, Psiman said:

I was surprised to only find one mention on the internet of Ingebretson Place being too large, as it literally sticks out like a sore thumb! 

I remember the issue was brought up on the German SimCity sub-forum of www.simszone.de several years ago, but only briefly... my best guess would be that people are so used to Maxis applying inconsistent scales that this particular issue wasn't even perceived as anything special and worth mentioning on its own.

I think there is also a medium-density commercial building in the Chicago tileset that's surprisingly tall. Wait a second... Ah yes, it's called "West & Co." and is a stage 5, but has 20+ floors. It's not quite as tall as Ingebretson Place, though.

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7 hours ago, T Wrecks said:

I think there is also a medium-density commercial building in the Chicago tileset that's surprisingly tall. Wait a second... Ah yes, it's called "West & Co." and is a stage 5, but has 20+ floors. It's not quite as tall as Ingebretson Place, though.

I haven't been through the commercial buildings yet, but am intending to do so.

Here's West & Co from the SimCity 4 Building Index and it does look very tall for medium-density.

Another issue that needs fixing is the residential Walkup Tower, which is a 4x4 building that it is being used on a 4x2 lot and is therefore too big for its base. Here it is from the SimCity 4 Building Index and it can be seen that it is covering the road at the back.

There are already 4x4 and 4x2 buildings in the Houston building set that it's from, so it would just be a matter of editing the Building Families, rather than needing to find a replacement building for it.