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Evergreen State College and the repercussions of violent "Social Justice"

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The Evergreen State College has had an annual 'Day of Absence' for years without much controversy. Last year, TESC added a 'Day of Presence.' The 'Day of Absence' voluntarily encourages students of color to stay home from class for a day to give white students a chance to reflect on the achievements of their peers of color and show them how much they are missed. The 'Day of Presence' mandated that white students, professors, and staff stayed home from campus. Those who showed up were subject to abuse: they were rounded up, forced into a single room, forced to ask permission to leave to even use the restroom, and harassed--for some reason, some of the abusive students recorded their harassment on their phones and shared it to social media. I will not post those videos because I believe they do not conform to site rules (vile things were said). There are ways to positively encourage equitability, justice, and peace but this is not the way.

 

A year after the fiasco and Evergreen State College is facing repercussions (as are the worst offenders, who unsurprisingly claim victimhood):

Enrollment dropped ~20%, causing a loss of $6 million.
http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/education/article210893889.html

Students sue the college for $1 million for discrimination
http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/education/article180025166.html


Professor harrassed and threatened for protesting "Day of Presence" receives a settlement of $500k
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...-of-protests-resigns-college-will-pay-500000/

6 professors resigned in total, all getting the severance pay
https://crosscut.com/2017/12/evergreen-state-college-racial-protests-professor-resigns-olympia

Former chief of Evergreen State College's police sues over discrimination, hostile work environment
http://www.cooperpointjournal.com/2...m-of-discrimination-based-on-race-and-gender/


I, for one, am overjoyed at seeing Evergreen's violent SJWs reap the repercussions of their misdeeds. The problem is that this provides evidence to conservatives against public institutions of higher education. Most campuses have safe spaces and safe/moderated debates and many have a professor or two with a strong but usually harmless progressive liberal bias and this goes unnoticed (because it does little harm) but Evergreen College has painted a rather negative picture of colleges, especially Liberal Arts Colleges and public colleges & universities. This is not the only college with students who destroy the "safe spaces" they demand. However, this is the first time I have seen tangible evidence that such behavior won't be tolerated, and at one point I considered going to Evergreen for an environmental science degree (before I decided I wanted to be a chemistry-focused engineer). I have seen examples across the USA of similar (but less severe in most of the cases I noticed) misbehavior. Here is a CNN article: https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/us/campus-free-speech-trnd/index.html In most cases, these started out as protests against ultra-conservative speakers, members of the alt-right, and those accused of hate speech. Evergreen College stands out as the protest was over innocent students showing up for class as they regularly do.

Apparently, this is called the Mizzou effect:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2017/09/does_a_school_s_enrollment_really_go_down_when_students_protest_en_masse.html


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On 26-6-2018 at 6:19 AM, OcramsRzr said:

The Evergreen State College has had an annual 'Day of Absence' for years without much controversy. Last year, TESC added a 'Day of Presence.' The 'Day of Absence' voluntarily encourages students of color to stay home from class for a day to give white students a chance to reflect on the achievements of their peers of color and show them how much they are missed. The 'Day of Presence' mandated that white students, professors, and staff stayed home from campus. Those who showed up were subject to abuse: they were rounded up, forced into a single room, forced to ask permission to leave to even use the restroom, and harassed--for some reason, some of the abusive students recorded their harassment on their phones and shared it to social media. I will not post those videos because I believe they do not conform to site rules (vile things were said). There are ways to positively encourage equitability, justice, and peace but this is not the way.

First, white students werent mandated anything. Second, the day of presence comes after the day of absence and its a day where students, together, reconnect with the larger community. What you are talking about is the day of absence. Normally, students of color go to off campus workshops about racism, in 2017 they decided to switch it around for once and have the white students go off campus for those workshops. Its also voluntary. I havent found a single source describing how students were put into a single room and what not. Given the fact that there are about 200 non white students vs 2800 white students, I think its also pretty unlikely that you could fit everyone into a single room. 

What happened was that this Weinstein professor threw a fit because they switched it around and called it reverse racism. Because being given the option to attend an event off campus is now apparantly racist against white people. His little hissy fit sparked off student protests who called this Weinstein guy out on his shit. Then Weinstein went onto Fox News to play the victim of the evil SJW's. And then the whole Alt Right hate machine came into action and messed stuff up. Protests, death threats and a campus shooting threat forced the campus to close for a few days.  

As for the declining enrollment. Yeah, the protests haven't helped, but the decline had been going on for at least a decade. 

Get your facts right. 


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    The white students who showed up (most did not) were harrassed and virtually kept prisoner, fact. I could link videos as proof since foul language is now allowed. I don’t understand why bullies post self-incriminating videos for fun.


    Ocram's Razor: Though "more things shouldn't be used than are necessary," they're just too fun to pass up! Expect many verbose arguments from me. I will try to write abstracts before or short summaries after from now on.

    Words to live by:
    "Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit... But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually..." 1 Corinthians 4-11

    "Do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
    "Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you." Matthew 7:1-3

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    On 2-7-2018 at 2:44 AM, OcramsRzr said:

    The white students who showed up (most did not) were harrassed and virtually kept prisoner, fact. I could link videos as proof since foul language is now allowed. I don’t understand why bullies post self-incriminating videos for fun.

    Prove it. None of your sources or any of the sources I've seen even remotely suggest your version of events. 


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    This is a fraction of the harassment. This is not how you win over hearts. This is how you escalate the culture wars and erode your credibility.

     


    Ocram's Razor: Though "more things shouldn't be used than are necessary," they're just too fun to pass up! Expect many verbose arguments from me. I will try to write abstracts before or short summaries after from now on.

    Words to live by:
    "Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit... But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually..." 1 Corinthians 4-11

    "Do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
    "Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you." Matthew 7:1-3

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    I see nothing in any of those video clips that looks like someone being "virtually kept prisoner". Harassment... yeah, there are a few examples of harassing actions in there. 

    My question is, what did the "these racist teachers" do that the crowd is criticizing?

     


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    Yeah, you are blowing the alleged injustices perpetuated by the SJW's way out of proportion.

    There was a student protest on campus, and at times that got a little rowdy. Big deal. 

    Meanwhile, the university got literal threats of a school shooting by people opposing the student protesters. But lets ignore that bit because that doesn't fit the narrative of the evil SJW's ruining America. 


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    https://hotair.com/archives/2018/08/07/4087482/amp/

    Here is an article that cites several sources, including examples of the virtual hostage situation. Anyway, I stayed home from Highline College on days when controversial speakers were scheduled to present, including a self-confessed eco-terrorist.

     

    Threats on the internet are usually empty, I have been threatened by spineless internet bullies before.


    Ocram's Razor: Though "more things shouldn't be used than are necessary," they're just too fun to pass up! Expect many verbose arguments from me. I will try to write abstracts before or short summaries after from now on.

    Words to live by:
    "Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit... But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually..." 1 Corinthians 4-11

    "Do not worry about tomorrow; for tomorrow will care for itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Matthew 6:34
    "Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you." Matthew 7:1-3

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