Climate change - Worse than Predicted

[drew 0]

About the post vidioman, Maryland does put aside money for snow.
Its just that the statewide budget is so tight, they alot a
couple million for it. See in the DC and Baltimore Metro areas
especially, the suburbian area's roads are so expansive that getting
to all secondary routes is a tough job. They have to cover a few miles of
asphalt in probably just a mile radius. To cover this they need to hire
a lot of workers and then the budget drains fast. Its just really tough
here because the majority of DC's Workers come from the suburbs. Also the metro track can't operate in the snow I think...I remembered why the tracks couldn't be frozen at one time, but I forgot. It just stops up transportaion so bad becuase everyone is parinoid of snow in the winter here. Thats why some many backups occur easily during periods of snow. I guess one could say the same about the Baltimore region. But thats not saying that other cities have the same problem.. take NYC for example..they have tons of roads that need to be cleared in order for commuters to get into the city. I'm not quite sure what their winter solutions are.

Date: 11/12/2004 1:23:31 AM
Author: Thalassicus

Date: 11/11/2004 9:21:17 PM
Author: vidioman
*32F is cool at best

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32F is literally freezing cold (at least for plain water at sea level...meh )

Heh...question, just to compare notes on both sides, what do you consider warm and hot? Honestly, from everyday experience and conversation, and not just exaggeration What makes you say:

'Gosh, it's hot out here!'

and

'It sure is warm.'

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During all times of the year, if the temperature reaches between 60F-70F, I can say thats luke warm. 80F is on the verge of hot. Anything above 90F, or a temperature of 80F combined with Humidity = insanely hot !!!

I think cool around here is 50F and freezing to most is 40F...
For me I think cool is 30F and 10F is too cold.

[simwario 95]

Well for me i would say:
above 90

[EAGCE 2]

At average humidity I would say this:

 

100+ insanely hot

90+ hot

80-90  warm

75-80  comfortable (ideal/perfect)

65-75 cool

50-65 chilly

below 50  cold

below 30 I'm ready to die

[vidioman 21]

Date: 11/12/2004 1:23:31 AM
Author: Thalassicus

Date: 11/11/2004 9:21:17 PM
Author: vidioman
*32F is cool at best

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32F is literally freezing cold (at least for plain water at sea level...meh )

Heh...question, just to compare notes on both sides, what do you consider warm and hot? Honestly, from everyday experience and conversation, and not just exaggeration What makes you say:

'Gosh, it's hot out here!'

and

'It sure is warm.'

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Depends on the season. In the Winter, I find -1C to +5C (30-40F) warm, anything above that hot, and anything below -10 cold. -9 to -1C (20-30F) is cool, it's tolderable. Great skating weather.

In the spring, 0C-15C(32-60F) is comfortable, above that is hot, below that is cold. In the Summer, anything between 10C and 25C (60F-78F) is comfortable, above is hot, down tow 10C (50F) is cool, below that is cold. In the fall, 10-20(50-70F) is hot, -10-10C (15-50F) is comfortable, below that is cold. then you have to account wind and precipitation. It feels warmer when it is snowing, or if the sun is shining.

Our coldesttemperature last year was about -51 with the windchill. I remember cause it was around 2 AM and I had to get hot chocolate from Tims. The strange thing is, Global Wartming is twice as noticable here than it is in Washington DC, our temperatures have been evening out more. Winters are warmer and summers are colder. we also get less precipitation during the wet season and more during the dry one. THis after a few years of drought, we have to worry about floods and frost. The north is experienciing the most effect from global warming, with temperatures rising an average of 5degrees Fahrenhiet per year. It's only +2.2F/yr here.

[Thalassicus 33]

Where do you live EAGCE? It's interesting, I feel pretty much the same way:

110+ baking hot (especially when you get in the car...uhg could roast a turkey in there)
85+ hot
79-85

[vidioman 21]

^You find room temperature cool? Crazy.

[Thalassicus 33]

I keep my room at 75-77 F, as I did with my apartment last year. So for me that's room temperature

I don't like 72-ish because it's too cool to wear comfortable clothes like shorts and a t-shirt around the house. Most people I visit also have their house/apartment at around the same temperature, ~75F (24C). Otherwise you'd have to wear long pants and shirts all the time...although I do know a few people who like long clothes, so they have their house temperate set lower.

Room temperature pretty much depends on what kind of clothes you like wearing at home. Plus, having it a few degrees higher saves on the electric bill


Slightly warmer winters and cooler summers might actually relate to the amount of urbanization in your area. Is the population growing? Cities have a profound moderating effect on the nearby microclimate, anywhere up to 10-20

[The Evil Octopus Man 25]

Date:11/12/2004 12:31:03 PM
Author:simwario

Well for me i would say:
above 90

[Thalassicus 33]

Serious temperature ratings I doubt many could consider triple-digit temperatures warm

[The Evil Octopus Man 25]

Date:11/12/2004 7:48:20 PM
Author:Thalassicus

Serious temperature ratings I doubt many could consider triple-digit temperatures 'warm'

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I lived in Phoenix most of my life.  People there call 70 degrees below freezing.

[EAGCE 2]

Thalassicus:  I live in Northern Maryland

 

 

Date:11/12/2004 8:50:16 PM
Author:The Evil Octopus Man

Date:11/12/2004 7:48:20 PM
Author:Thalassicus

Serious temperature ratings I doubt many could consider triple-digit temperatures 'warm'

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I lived in Phoenix most of my life.  People there call 70 degrees 'below freezing'.

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The desert is a little different.  The dry air makes it feel less hot.  I went to Vegas this summer and it was 100+ degrees and it took about 30 minutes before I started sweating a single drop.  Whereas in Maryland, 100+ with the humidity, you would be sweating as soon as you step outside.  So those temps propably would be somewhat accurate for me too.

[The Evil Octopus Man 25]

Humidity is bad, but I think dry heat is the worst.  Dries out your mouth fast, and in Phoenix there was normaly a slight breeze, just enough to make you feel hotter by blowing the 120+ degree air in your face.

[Thalassicus 33]

Cars, politics, and the weather. Maybe we should throw in the kitchen sink, too?

The worst I've ever had it is a few times in East Texas. 80

[villarule 2]

look at this !

Those guys have the idea!

[frogface 354]

Date: 11/13/2004 8:47:03 AM
Author: villarule
look at this !


Those guys have the idea!

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thats the thing, a lot of people who have 4x4's need them for variouis reasons but cmon do you really need a 4x4 in central london

[burwellian 16]

Late in, 6 pages to read so if I'm repeating something, don't bite my head off...

Cars = Carbon Monoxide

Carbon Monoxide = Greenhouse Gases

Greenhouse Gases = More heat trapped

More heat = smaller ice caps

Smaller Ice caps = higher sea levels AND colder currents under sea level

Colder Currents from Arctic = Shutdown of Gulf Stream

Shutdown of Gulf Stream = El Nino in Pacific, more Hurricanes in America, Worse Monsoons in India, More severe droughts in Africa, FAR Colder Climate here in UK...



Currently, the UK is experiencing some of it's warmest years on record... Last year, the temperature hit 100F for the first time since metrological records began 150 years ago... We are as far from the equator as Moscow, yet on average 20C Warmer in Winter due to the Gulf Stream. IT IS WEAKENING, there IS scientific Evidence. If we cut emmissions, the effects will be less dramatic, and easier to handle...

Note, I live 30 miles inland and 6m above sea level... If sea Levels rose enough for me to be on the coast (i.e. 5 metres), large parts of London, New York, Washington, Dublin, Lisbon, Barcelona, Edinburgh, etc... Would be under water... along with nearly ALL of Bangladesh and the Netherlands...


THIS IS A VERY MAJOR PROBLEM: WHY ELSE WOULD THERE BE KYOTO?

[Alkaola 18]

simtropolis is mostly canadian and american i think.But not only america gets climate change the whole world But did you look to the pentagon information

 

they say in 2007 THE HAGUE IS UNLIVEABLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH , then i need move , this make no sense man.

[simwario 95]

In this case i would have to move further inland too, because then Bremerhaven would be under water too because our elevation is only 4 m above MSL and this
would be the same for almost every bigger town in the North German Plain.
The only thing they could do here to prevent such harm due to a raising water level, is to raise the hight of the dikes from currently 8 meters to 10 - 12 meters.
That would be high enough the prevent floods i think.
But the cost of that would be enormous, since 1 kilometer of a dike
costs more than 500,000

[EAGCE 2]

Date:11/14/2004 7:12:46 AM
Author:simwario

In this case i would have to move further inland too, because then Bremerhaven would be another water too because our elevation is only 4 m above MSL and this
would be the same for almost every bigger town in the North German Plain.
The only thing they could do here to prevent such harm due to a raising water level, is to raise the hight of the dikes from currently 8 meters to 10 - 12 meters.
That would be high enough the prevent floods i think.
But the cost of that would be enormous, since 1 kilometer of a dike
costs more than 500,000

[vidioman 21]

What about New York? It's at sea level (well, parts of it are a whopping 5 metres above sea level!) and they don't have dykes. It WILL flood.

[colbysohl 0]

Yeah,new york is at sea level.

[villarule 2]

Date: 11/14/2004 4:40:01 PM
Author: vidioman

What about New York? It's at sea level (well, parts of it are a whopping 5 metres above sea level!) and they don't have dykes. It WILL flood.

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it would be like living in a mini island, if you were in a skyscraper and new york flooded

pretty scary tho[:0]

[clindhartsen 5]

Well, I know this is a tad off topic (probabily) but I found this at CSNNews.com.

Special Report: Kyoto's Economic Downside Ignored by Media
Full Story : Destroying America To Save The World
TV

[vidioman 21]

Date:11/14/2004 4:53:34 PM
Author:clindhartsen

Well, I know this is a tad off topic (probabily) but I found this at CSNNews.com.

Special Report: Kyoto's Economic Downside Ignored by Media
Full Story : Destroying America To Save The World
TV

[clindhartsen 5]

Date: 11/14/2004 5:06:45 PM
Author: vidioman

Date:11/14/2004 4:53:34 PM
Author:clindhartsen
Well, I know this is a tad off topic (probabily) but I found this at CSNNews.com.
Special Report: Kyoto's Economic Downside Ignored by Media
Full Story : Destroying America To Save The World
TV’s Global Warming Coverage Hides Cost Of Kyoto Treaty

Read through it all, kind of interesting.......

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Yeah, but not as interesting as watching the rising sea levels of global warming obliterate many of americas largest cities! Watch New york crash and burn in the ocean! Bwa ha ha ha! And I don't care! not only am I 300m above sea level, and in another country, but it's warmer too! <.sarcasm>

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Scarcasm, of corse, but I could care less for the easern coastline (except flordia). But a great quote I still like is.....

The heart of the global warming dispute remains quite important. Scientists have been debating the reality of climate change and its potential impact for years. Despite extensive scientific opposition, worldwide environmental groups pushed for action that led to the 1997 Kyoto Protocol on Climate Change. The pact required reductions in emissions below 1990 levels for developed nations. The U.S. received the strongest sanction and was required to cut emissions 7 percent below 1990 levels

[vidioman 21]

Okay, now I get it, the US doesn't want Kyoto because they don't kow how to do it! They really have no idea how to implement something like that. Canada's unemployment has dropped since Kyoto came into effect. Our cities went up, but that's because there is low demand for new print paper, and AT&T backed out of the landline market, causing unemployment to go up here. nothing to do with Kyoto..

[Playa del Carmen 0]

The US is vid's favorite country. He just CAN'T stop talking about us! Why, if you love it so much, why don't you move on down? We'll hide you in a pi

[vidioman 21]

I'll have to move to the US. i'll be old enough top vote democrat in the next election! unless whatshername is running..

 

And most of Canada's north is well above sealevel, aside from the coast. The arctic mountains are as much as 6000 metres high.

 

Large areas of Northern Ontario wil be underwater. It's already a wetleand, though.

[Playa del Carmen 0]

Date: 11/14/2004 7:43:03 PM
Author: vidioman

I'll have to move to the US. i'll be old enough top vote democrat in the next election! unless whatshername is running..

And most of Canada's north is well above sealevel, aside from the coast. The arctic mountains are as much as 6000 metres high.

Large areas of Northern Ontario wil be underwater. It's already a wetleand, though.

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I hope the map attatched correctly.

[vidioman 21]

That's Hudsons Bay Basin! That isn't northern Canada! Edmonton is farther north than most of that I thought you mean Nunavut! Besides, only about 1000 people live in that area, anyway, since it's a giant wetland. Because it is on the Canadin sheild, there is very poor drainage. It's only about 1000 feet of swamp ontop of 8Km thick rock. And the farther north parts are tundra, so there isn't much up there to lose, other than polar bear habitats. Does the site you got that from have any info of the actual north?

 

 

-Arviat is the geographic centre of Canada. It is slightly above the top of that image..