Climate change - Worse than Predicted

[Playa del Carmen 0]

Date: 11/3/2004 1:31:41 PM
Author: villarule
Some people just dont care do they....

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Well if you would like to suggest some ways that the US could reduce emissions AND keep millions of people from going on the dole, you're more than welcome to post them.

[simmax 0]

That's right, global warming isn't the US' fault (only a small part), but the Americans (canadians included - sorry Vid) consume about twice as more oil/capita as the German, or the French (who have 54 nuclear reactors - a world record. It allows us to reduce our oil consumption, but nuclear waste also pollute, in its own way.) do.
There are too many oil-thirsty cars in these 2 countries...

[villarule 2]

Date: 11/3/2004 1:45:10 PM
Author: Playa del Carmen

Date: 11/3/2004 1:31:41 PM
Author: villarule
Some people just dont care do they....

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Well if you would like to suggest some ways that the US could reduce emissions AND keep millions of people from going on the dole, you're more than welcome to post them.

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some peoples attitudes, like 'oh whoopie a warmer winter for us all' are just pathetic and selfish....
i wasnt having a 'pop' at the US specificly

[beesbees 1]

Date:11/3/2004 1:45:10 PM
Author:Playa del Carmen

Date: 11/3/2004 1:31:41 PM
Author: villarule
Some people just dont care do they....

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Well if you would like to suggest some ways that the US could reduce emissions AND keep millions of people from going on the dole, you're more than welcome to post them. 

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1-Dont buy pointlessly big cars. They are unnessery. The top 5 selling autos in the US are SUV's and Pick-ups. What a waste.

2-Dont buy pointlessly big tellys. 26-32 is ample.

3-You dont need a massive house. Just buy what you need.

4-SIgn up to the co2 emissions agreement. Everyone else has, and everyone else is reducing year on year. The UK has cut its emissions by 8% since 1995, and plan to cut it by 20% by 2012. If we can do it, why cant you?

 

[chunkymon24490 6]

Also use public transport. Oh wait. There's hardly any.
Walk then! If its a long way, then get your council into shape!

[EAGCE 2]

Date:11/3/2004 2:41:40 PM
Author:beesbees

Date:11/3/2004 1:45:10 PM
Author:Playa del Carmen

Date: 11/3/2004 1:31:41 PM
Author: villarule
Some people just dont care do they....

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Well if you would like to suggest some ways that the US could reduce emissions AND keep millions of people from going on the dole, you're more than welcome to post them. 

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1-Dont buy pointlessly big cars. They are unnessery. The top 5 selling autos in the US are SUV's and Pick-ups. What a waste.

2-Dont buy pointlessly big tellys. 26-32' is ample.

3-You dont need a massive house. Just buy what you need.

4-SIgn up to the co2 emissions agreement. Everyone else has, and everyone else is reducing year on year. The UK has cut its emissions by 8% since 1995, and plan to cut it by 20% by 2012. If we can do it, why cant you?

 

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1.  So what do I do when I need to take something large somewhere?  Like if I need to take my lawn mower over to my grandparents house to cut their lawn?  (Not that I do that, but my dad has done that)

2.  Having a big screen TV is awesome!  You can't have a Super Bowl party around a 20 TV.

3.  We have a lot of junk in our house.

4. Um.. Is that the Tokyo thing?  If it is, it is pointless.  The Tokyo thing doesn't cut emissions, it just makes the US give money to developing countries for the credits.

5.  (You didn't have a 5 but I'm adding one)  I'm cold!

[villarule 2]

some people just dont care do they

As soon as bush was elected in 2000 he has more or less cancelled all of America's stratergies for cleaning up the enviroment and all of the c02 emissions targets....
selfish or what?

oh, if you want to transport lawnmowers buy a trailer!
(we can fit a lawnmower in the back of our 1.9l 405 estate)

[EAGCE 2]

Date:11/3/2004 3:14:08 PM
Author:villarule

some people just dont care do they

As soon as bush was elected in 2000 he has more or less cancelled all of America's stratergies for cleaning up the enviroment and all of the c02 emissions targets....
selfish or what?

oh, if you want to transport lawnmowers buy a trailer!
(we can fit a lawnmower in the back of our 1.9l 405 estate)

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But what about the Super Bowl parties??? Huh?  What then? And what about me being cold!?!?  Answer that!

[guinea 31]

im not realy worried about it , if i was on the coast i might be but for england it all depends of this gulf stream thing doesnt it ,

something like if it stays we get nice and hot , or if it changes we become mini canada

[villarule 2]

Date: 11/3/2004 3:21:29 PM
Author: EAGCE

Date:11/3/2004 3:14:08 PM
Author:villarule

some people just dont care do they

As soon as bush was elected in 2000 he has more or less cancelled all of America's stratergies for cleaning up the enviroment and all of the c02 emissions targets....
selfish or what?

oh, if you want to transport lawnmowers buy a trailer!
(we can fit a lawnmower in the back of our 1.9l 405 estate)

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But what about the Super Bowl parties??? Huh? What then? And what about me being cold!?!? Answer that!

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move to another country where it is warmer, and as for the superbowl, go and watch it on a big screen in a public place, at major sports events they have a fantastic atmosphere and can turn into one big party

[EAGCE 2]

Date:11/3/2004 3:30:31 PM
Author:villarule

Date: 11/3/2004 3:21:29 PM
Author: EAGCE

Date:11/3/2004 3:14:08 PM
Author:villarule

some people just dont care do they

As soon as bush was elected in 2000 he has more or less cancelled all of America's stratergies for cleaning up the enviroment and all of the c02 emissions targets....
selfish or what?

oh, if you want to transport lawnmowers buy a trailer!
(we can fit a lawnmower in the back of our 1.9l 405 estate)

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But what about the Super Bowl parties??? Huh?  What then? And what about me being cold!?!?  Answer that!

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move to another country where it is warmer, and as for the superbowl, go and watch it on a big screen in a public place, at major sports events they have a fantastic atmosphere and can turn into one big party

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If I move to another country, I won't be able to go to Oriole and Raven games as often as I do now.  Plus America pwns all others.  I don't want to go to a public place to watch a big screen because they are often crowded and smoke filled.  I'd rather watch it on my own big screen in my own giant house with the heat turned up and have just my friends each drive over in their pick up trucks and SUVs.

[monomaniaman 0]

cut oil usage! stop pollution! no more gas-guzzlers!...
not that these ideas aren't good and dont deserve our attention, its just that none of these, not even combined, can stop the global warming issue. lets just say, for the sake of argument, that through some impossible effort, CO2 production was sliced in half. GREAT! but the destruction of the ozone layer (vital to the entire problem) is far beyond repair. there would still be an extreme amount of carbon dioxide up there slowely rotting away the atmosphere. the CO2 thats left simply wont float out into space, and there would still be the remaining half pouring in!
sorry, but i see global warming as irreversable, so i wouldnt try to blame it on anyone for that matter.

[monomaniaman 0]

one thing i forgot...
has anyone heard anything about Geosequestration???
i recently did a report on it and found it really interesting. basically its purpose is to somehow collect large amounts of CO2 before it enters the atmosphere, convert it onto liquid form and store it deep in underground voids (drained oil reserves) and keeping it there. WHAT A CONCEPT!!! ide shake the hand of the person who thought of that one! and the cool thing is that they have already started to do it!
feel free to ask questions cuz i love this stuff!
please pm me if so

[EAGCE 2]

Date:11/3/2004 4:46:56 PM
Author:monomaniaman

one thing i forgot...
has anyone heard anything about Geosequestration???
i recently did a report on it and found it really interesting. basically its purpose is to somehow collect large amounts of CO2 before it enters the atmosphere, convert it onto liquid form and 'store' it deep in underground voids (drained oil reserves) and keeping it there. WHAT A CONCEPT!!! ide shake the hand of the person who thought of that one! and the cool thing is that they have already started to do it!
feel free to ask questions cuz i love this stuff!
please pm me if so

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Wouldnt it turn back into gas?  Don't you have to keep it really cold to keep it liquid?

[The Evil Octopus Man 25]

Date:11/3/2004 2:41:40 PM
Author:beesbees

Date:11/3/2004 1:45:10 PM
Author:Playa del Carmen

Date: 11/3/2004 1:31:41 PM
Author: villarule
Some people just dont care do they....

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Well if you would like to suggest some ways that the US could reduce emissions AND keep millions of people from going on the dole, you're more than welcome to post them. 

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1-Dont buy pointlessly big cars. They are unnessery. The top 5 selling autos in the US are SUV's and Pick-ups. What a waste.

2-Dont buy pointlessly big tellys. 26-32' is ample.

3-You dont need a massive house. Just buy what you need.

4-SIgn up to the co2 emissions agreement. Everyone else has, and everyone else is reducing year on year. The UK has cut its emissions by 8% since 1995, and plan to cut it by 20% by 2012. If we can do it, why cant you?

 

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1) What if you actually use the space in the big car.  I would like to see someone fit 5 people plus suitcases with clothes for them for a week into a Geo.

2) 32 inches is tiny.

3) Why don't you need a big house?  I like having elbow room in my house.

4) I'm sure there's a good reason why we havent already.

[vidioman 21]

Date:11/3/2004 3:21:29 PM
Author:EAGCE

Date:11/3/2004 3:14:08 PM
Author:villarule

some people just dont care do they

As soon as bush was elected in 2000 he has more or less cancelled all of America's stratergies for cleaning up the enviroment and all of the c02 emissions targets....
selfish or what?

oh, if you want to transport lawnmowers buy a trailer!
(we can fit a lawnmower in the back of our 1.9l 405 estate)

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But what about the Super Bowl parties??? Huh?  What then? And what about me being cold!?!?  Answer that!

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Send your friends home, put your clothes on and shut up about it.

Pollute all you want. It doesn't matter. NO ONE CARES ANYMORE!

[Thalassicus 33]

India does


But they don't have internet access

[Alkaola 18]

You people knew the climate change can cause a new icetime in less than 10 years IN EUROPE?

 

 

[EAGCE 2]

Date:11/3/2004 5:51:08 PM
Author:vidioman

Date:11/3/2004 3:21:29 PM
Author:EAGCE

Date:11/3/2004 3:14:08 PM
Author:villarule

some people just dont care do they

As soon as bush was elected in 2000 he has more or less cancelled all of America's stratergies for cleaning up the enviroment and all of the c02 emissions targets....
selfish or what?

oh, if you want to transport lawnmowers buy a trailer!
(we can fit a lawnmower in the back of our 1.9l 405 estate)

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But what about the Super Bowl parties??? Huh?  What then? And what about me being cold!?!?  Answer that!

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Send your friends home, put your clothes on and shut up about it.

Pollute all you want. It doesn't matter. NO ONE CARES ANYMORE!

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ALL RIGHT!!!

[Playa del Carmen 0]

Date: 11/3/2004 2:36:40 PM
Author: villarule

Date: 11/3/2004 1:45:10 PM
Author: Playa del Carmen

Date: 11/3/2004 1:31:41 PM
Author: villarule
Some people just dont care do they....

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Well if you would like to suggest some ways that the US could reduce emissions AND keep millions of people from going on the dole, you're more than welcome to post them.

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some peoples attitudes, like 'oh whoopie a warmer winter for us all' are just pathetic and selfish....
i wasnt having a 'pop' at the US specificly

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I apologize then. Though when I was young I did misunderstand the concept of another coming ice age and was eagerly awaiting it, not realizing it was quite a way off.

Date: 11/3/2004 5:51:08 PM
Author: vidioman

Date:11/3/2004 3:21:29 PM
Author:EAGCE

Date:11/3/2004 3:14:08 PM
Author:villarule

some people just dont care do they

As soon as bush was elected in 2000 he has more or less cancelled all of America's stratergies for cleaning up the enviroment and all of the c02 emissions targets....
selfish or what?

oh, if you want to transport lawnmowers buy a trailer!
(we can fit a lawnmower in the back of our 1.9l 405 estate)

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But what about the Super Bowl parties??? Huh? What then? And what about me being cold!?!? Answer that!

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Send your friends home, put your clothes on and shut up about it.

Pollute all you want. It doesn't matter. NO ONE CARES ANYMORE!

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Calm down, it'll be ok.

[clindhartsen 5]

Date: 11/2/2004 2:02:33 PM
Author: ACEfanatic

Please tell me you don't believe this crap.

The climate cycle of the Earth is such a long process that if scientists believe they can understand it in the relitively short time that humans have existed, they over-estimate their knowledge.

True, I will concede the point that air pollution is bad for the atmosphere, and I will admit that the world is getting warmer. I will not (and cannot), say with certinty that the former is the cause of the latter.

Oh, and those of you who say it's a major, major problem, what do you want us to do? Stop driving? Ditch electricity? Take civiliztion back to the stone age? Or were you just looking for something to $%&^! about?

Seriously people, this kind of stuff happens, has happened, and will continue to happen. If it were to stop, then the climates of the world would be completely shot to hell.

It's called a cycle for a reason, peeps.

-ACE

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Well, I know that's an older post, but AMEN brother! That's nothin short of the truth in my opinion! Sure, we are causing some problems, but we don't know what has happened all in the past, who knows, maybe it's a sign of the Ice Age coming back, who knows

[subedei 3]

A slight weather change is nothing to be alarmed about.

 

 

 

Subedei

[vidioman 21]

Date:11/4/2004 3:51:41 AM
Author:subedei

A slight weather change is nothing to be alarmed about.

 

 

 

Subedei

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Yes, and global warming is anything but slight. Prepare to see more Hurricans in Florida, more forest fires in California, colder winters and hotter summers.

[beesbees 1]

1-About the superbowl thing, go to a pub.

 

2-Everyone else all over the world manages with saloon cars. Why does american have to be any differen?

 

3-32 inch is not tiny for a TV. Our TV is 32 and it is by far big enough. But then again, we have widescreen, something you havent got round to doing yet.

 

4-In a house, you need 2 reception rooms (Lounge and Dining area, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and enough bedroom for people in your house.

 

[EAGCE 2]

Date:11/4/2004 1:24:15 PM
Author:beesbees

1-About the superbowl thing, go to a pub.

 

2-Everyone else all over the world manages with saloon cars. Why does american have to be any differen?

 

3-32 inch is not tiny for a TV. Our TV is 32' and it is by far big enough. But then again, we have widescreen, something you havent got round to doing yet.

 

4-In a house, you need 2 reception rooms (Lounge and Dining area, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and enough bedroom for people in your house.

 

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1. Pub??? They smell

2. Because we wanna

3. We got 50 something inch non-wide. Optimum size IMO.  Looking into widescreen HD though

4.   1 bathroom!!!!!!  That's crazy!  We have 2.5 bath. And 4 bedrooms (one really huge for my parents), family room, living room, dining room (that is never used), study, big kitchen, laundry room, big basement.  And we still don't have enough room for all our junk.

[beesbees 1]

Date:11/4/2004 1:33:19 PM
Author:EAGCE

Date:11/4/2004 1:24:15 PM
Author:beesbees

1-About the superbowl thing, go to a pub.

 

2-Everyone else all over the world manages with saloon cars. Why does american have to be any differen?

 

3-32 inch is not tiny for a TV. Our TV is 32' and it is by far big enough. But then again, we have widescreen, something you havent got round to doing yet.

 

4-In a house, you need 2 reception rooms (Lounge and Dining area, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and enough bedroom for people in your house.

 

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1. Pub??? They smell

2. Because we wanna

3. We got 50 something inch non-wide. Optimum size IMO.  Looking into widescreen HD though

4.   1 bathroom!!!!!!  That's crazy!  We have 2.5 bath. And 4 bedrooms (one really huge for my parents), family room, living room, dining room (that is never used), study, big kitchen, laundry room, big basement.  And we still don't have enough room for all our junk.

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1-Its always best to watch sport in a crowd.

2-Its a bit selfesh then. You dont need it. Saloon cars are more comfortable, mopre efficient and generally better/

3-50? Whats the point?

4-Why 2 bathrooms??

[EAGCE 2]

You have to have at least 2 bathrooms.  What do you do if someone has to go while someone else is in the shower and you really can't wait?  It sucks.  I had to do that when I was staying at my grandparents house for a while.  I would get up in the morning to go to the bathroom, and someone would be in the shower and I would have to go so bad I felt like I was going to die.  No way I could live always with just 1 bathroom.

[Thalassicus 33]

Erm...ya, I've never seen a house with only 1 bathroom. Think of how much time it would waste in the morning! Everyone needs to take a shower, brush their teeth, etc, it would take over an hour with a single restroom. It also makes it much easier for parents and kids to handle different schedules, or when there's both sisters and brothers (my friend's sister and her mom both use one restroom, while he, his brother and dad use the other).

Anyways, what do bathrooms have to do with global climate?

A slight weather change is nothing to be alarmed about.

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Say rainfall drops by just 1% across India and East Asia. That's less than a tenth of a milliliter per inch of rainfall annually. Seem small? When you consider the fact that it's reducing the freshwater and agricultural supply for three billion people, however, that 1% is equivilant to a food shortage for three hundred million people, more than the entire population of the United States! Slight isn't so slight when you're dealing with billions of people. This doesn't even take into account the increasing overpopulation in the area, nor the lack of technology to cope with the change.

[villarule 2]

Date: 11/4/2004 1:47:01 PM
Author: EAGCE

You have to have at least 2 bathrooms. What do you do if someone has to go while someone else is in the shower and you really can't wait? It sucks. I had to do that when I was staying at my grandparents house for a while. I would get up in the morning to go to the bathroom, and someone would be in the shower and I would have to go so bad I felt like I was going to die. No way I could live always with just 1 bathroom.

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he means the proper bathrooms, the ones with a bath a shower and a toilet!
even here in britain most houses have 2 toilets[:0]

[vidioman 21]

You need the 50 TV to boast about it, so that the other parts about your life that completely blow chunks are overlooked by other, and you fell better. The big cars compensate for small penises, Americans don't like Pubs because they use them to kill eachother, and they need big houses to fit all the junk they buy but don't need, so they can brag about it. It's all about bragging rights. Sad, really

Well, at least we are trying to change.