Cadott Bay

[wallasey 8]

What a great page! I love the close up screen shots of the cathedral and also the embankment steps! Keep up the good work!

[magpieshooter 1]

Yes, I agree, It's all very nice, I like the style of the islands.

EDIT: Welcome to Page EIGHT!

[Bongoswimp 14]

I'm overwhelmed. This update is truly inspiring. It looks so realistic and still very lovely and peaceful.

You made my day man! These pics are so healthy for my eyes.

 

 

And thanks about the info. Though I've never seen that one in the bridge options. Gotta build more bridges I think...

[topcliff 1]

i don't think i've posted here before, but this looks great! and for my usual CJ Constructive Criticism: when taking photos that you'll put here, turn off the grid so it blends together.

[Nardo69 51]

Some peoples post in my CJ that there is so much detail in my Cj but compared to yoursit is empty ...

Waaaahnsinn ....

Bernhard

[barnatom 0]

Thank you again for posting so many comments! I am really happy that so many of you like this CJ. It pushes me forward to build new exiting things to show you...



railrod7:
Yes, I try to get away from the 90 degree grid as far as possible. Well, at least in certain areas of the cities, in others the grid is looking best...
And thank you for your very nice words.

simster6:
Yes, this cathedral is really great!

Cjah:
Thank you very much again! I am happy that you like the diversity I tried to create.

threeswept:
Thank you!!!

Simworld 056132:
Trixies?!? OMG!

bat:
Thank you for posting again!

Vandy:
Thank you for your most elaborated post! I am sure you looked closely at every single picture.
This cathedral is actually a real world structure. It is the 'Dom' of Cologne, Germany. And it is available on the STEX, made by bandito, here is a link .
The stairways are here .
The bridge with the roof is a normal raod bridge, just draw a bridge and you will get the option to build this one, at least in some cases.
The overlook is a bus station and is part of NOB's wall pack. You will find a link in the Massively Gigantic Japanese BAT Gallery .

Kwakelaar:
That would be great if you could make them!
I like the map very much as well. No wonder - I made it. And I hope that it will look good then finished. But it is so big that it will take years to fill it.

wallasey:
Thank you, I am glad that you like the close ups.

magpieshooter:
Thank you for opening page 8.

Bongoswimp:
Wow! Thank you very much for this nice comment! I made your day!?! Unbelievable!

topcliff:
Welcome to Cadott Bay! I am glad that you like it.
About the ugly grid lines:
This subject was already brought forward on the very first page of my first CJ 'A UK village'. What you see are not the normal grid lines, this lines stay wether I turn the grid on or off. Someone told me that this is a graphic bug of the Mac version of the game and that there is no solution. I am very sad about this, because I see how nice and clean the pictures of nearly all other CJs here on Simtropolis look. But I have to live with it. I am sorry for not being able to present petter pictures.

Nardo69:
Well, I think your cities are very detailed, too. But thank you for the compliment.





This is only a very small update. And I will show you work in progress, So don't expect the usual eye candy.
I thought you could like to see how I start to build new things as well.


A covered river:



A transition from normal water to ploppable water to PEG's canal:



A rail station:



A new cover for a rail tunnel:







What do you think about it?

[Lord Kronos 0]

Hey great update!!!!

Where did you get that station??? Is it one of yours? cause I haven't seen it on the stex.

and what about that bridge/tunnel cover, where's that from too?

great pics as always.

LK

[bat 6]

It looks very nice!

bat

[magpieshooter 1]

Date: 1/18/2006 9:44:26 PM
Author: Lord Kronos
Hey great update!!!!


Where did you get that station??? Is it one of yours? cause I haven't seen it on the stex.


and what about that bridge/tunnel cover, where's that from too?


great pics as always.


LK

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I believe the green tunnel cover for the road is from the underbridge road on the STEX. Although, I would like to know where the custom bridge at the entrance is from...

Another great update!

[topcliff 1]

for both of you, the custom bridge is a new set of lots at NOB's site go there and you'll see it in other or automata. and to barnatom: you're playing this on a MAC?! wow! i tried this on my old mac desktop and everything crashed after 2 seconds after installing SC4! May Thy Talent Flicker Unto Others.

[Bongoswimp 14]

Great, just great. You're full of new ideas. I love that road bridge over the rails. And good use of the ploppable water.

Keep this amazing work up!

[Simbourgeois 139]

One can really see that even the smallest detail in this city carefully planned  After seeing these last updates I must think about the greatest of the greatest city planners - Haussmann, of course...

Yours sincerely,

Simbourgeois

Mayor of Belleville

[2ch.net simplayer 180]

The transition from PEG's ploppable water to normal water is such a brilliant idea! Never thought about using that stone arch as the tunnel! Keep up good work, and keep inspiring us!

[pikatchoum 2]

WOW,WOW,WOW!!

Amazing!!.

You killed me (one more time )

The tunnel is so realistic...it's unbelievable .

I don't use to ask question,but:How did you make it?It's fabulous .

 

I can't wait for more....Those first pics of the railway station are divine...

[pikatchoum 2]

WOW,WOW,WOW!!

Amazing!!.

You killed me (one more time )

The tunnel is so realistic...it's unbelievable .

I don't use to ask question,but:How did you make it?It's fabulous .

 

I can't wait for more....Those first pics of the railway station are divine...

[pikatchoum 2]

WOW,WOW,WOW!!

Amazing!!.

You killed me (one more time )

The tunnel is so realistic...it's unbelievable .

I don't use to ask question,but:How did you make it?It's fabulous .

 

I can't wait for more....Those first pics of the railway station are divine...

[barnatom 0]

Lord Kronos:
Welcome to Cadott Bay! The train station is the Estacao da Luz by frogface.The rail tunnel is a combination of a NAM road over rail bridge, NOB's new NAM lots and the grass lot of the underbridge road pack.

bat:
Thank you again!

magpieshooter:
Thank you for answering the question of Lord Kronos. For the rest see above.

topcliff:
Thank you, too, for answering the questions. You are right. And yes, I am playing on a small powerbook. And it works quite well.

Bongoswimp:
Thank you very much!

Simbourgeois:
Comparing my small skills with the great Haussmann is a little bit off...
But thank you anyway.

2ch.net simplayer:
I am glad that you got some new ideas.

Edit
pikatchoum:
I missed you tripple post. Thank you a lot! I will show a picture of how the tunnel entrance is build next time.
End Edit




And now something else:


BAT Request



You all know, that we have already a lot of very beautiful walls on the STEX. But they all have something in common: The all are sloped. I think it would be great to have a new kind of walls, vertical walls. Here is a picture to explain the situation:



As you can see, there are generally two ways lots behave then plopped. Number 1 is the Maxis Open Pavement, this one adjusts itself to every slope it is plopped on. Number 3 and 4 are two examples of walls that behave the same way.
Now there is another possibility, a lot that builds a foundation and always stays horizontal. One example is number 2, the Maxis Small Park. To get it like in the picture you have to orient the zoning arrow of the lot so that it faces the upper road. Number 5 is one tile of marrast's see walls, it functions like this as well. But it builds a very angled wall that covers the road beneth it.

My idea is to make a new wall, that behaves like the Small Park or like marrast's see walls, just with a vertical wall. Here is a basic sketch:



The wall is a little bit off the tile but thin enough to cover only a very small part of everything that happens to be on the lot next to it.

Of course this wall would look too plain. So I suggest to add some pillars like in this picture:



To get it good looking then plopped in a row, the outer pillars are only half as wide as the inner one. That way two outer pillars of two wall segment will combine to a full pillar. (Is pillar the right word?)

The wall should have some kind of a top piece that extends a little bit over the wall to make it like a real wall, I just didn't put that in the sketch. This wall segment could be the first one to be made and a start to a whole set.

Of course we would need some variation. Here is an idea for a second segment:




And now about the textures. I would like the wall to have the appearance of sand stone. Like the wall of the building shown in this picture:



The texture of the ground could be just like the plazas Kwakelaar did, also highlighted in the above picture.
And I would also suggest to use porkissimo's street trees and benches and other props to fill the top area with life.


This could be the beginning of a great new wall set. I already have many pieces in mind. Examples:
- Straight sections longer than one tile with different props on them.
- A stair piece.
- End pieces and corner pieces.
- Diagonal pieces.
- Sound wall pieces, to be used along busy highways.
- Pieces that have an extension of the top area over the lot border, to partly cover highways under it.
- And many more...


About the height of the wall: It should be high enough to prevent situations there the lot could be plopped on such steep slopes that the wall wouldn't reach the bottom. I would suggest that two times the height of the NAM puzze pieces should be enough.

If the pieces could be made ploppable on water as well (this should be possible), we could use them to build a new kind of see walls as well.



All Batters out there:
What do you think? Do you like the idea? Do you think it would be much work?

I hope that someone in our great community will be able to make this new walls. It surely would be an adittion to our cities worth the effort.


I would like to work on this project for myself, but playing on a Mac, I am not able to use any modding software.




Kwakelaar: I do not ask you to step in again, however if you would like to do it, you would be most welcomed.


Please leave comments and suggestions about this new walls. I will happily post more sketches and write more about my ideas if I get some feedback.

[Simen 1]

Personally I would love to see this being pulled off, as here in norway, I rarely see any of these sloped walls. most often its a plaza, then it goes straight down. great cj, great idea, great everything

[mtbrocket 2]

Great Job. I like the improvement to the island. I have often run into the same problem. The use of the embankments and walls are very original. The trees are very colorful and fit in well with the city. Same with the GLR snaking around the W2Ws. Great idea for the walls.

-Dan

[jeronij 13]

Hello Barnatom,

having had a look to your walls proposal, and after your request, I

[Chris M 406]

Once again, I have to post.. that was just an amazing update, my friend! The pure originality of your lots and ideas is really quite nice. I see you've discovered another rail tunnel.. I've tried something like that before:



And I'm thinking I may have to update my sig..

[rooker1 4]

WOW, I am speachless........You have some great ideas and your CJ is so amazing....I have to watch this one grow..... It gives me so many ideas.  Thanks.

[simster6 0]

Better everytime. I have been wondering; what is the link to that terrain mod? I would like to download it.

[barnatom 0]

Simen and mtbrocket:
Thank you for posting.

jeronij:
I am glad that you hade the time to have a look and to give your opinion.

I don't suggest to make them similar to PEG's walls, exactly for the reason that they cannot be made diagonal. I imagine something like marrast's or your walls, just with vertical walls.
Ah, so it will not be possible to use the same lots for land and sea walls. But perhaps a second set could be made after the land walls are done...
At least we will be able to use the land walls with the ploppable water.

DragonAnime:
Thank you very much! Is that rail tunnel in your picture functional or eye candy?

rooker1:
Wow, I am speachless... So big red letters...

simster6:
I am using cycledogg's columbus textures with the snowmod by jeronij. Just search for cycledogg on the STEX.







I made some more sketches to explain what wall pieces will have to be made to get a complete set:

First the orthogonal ones:



1. Simple one tile straight section
2. Inner corner
3. Outer corner

Perhaps the outer corner piece could be made simetrical, that means it would be number 3 plus the number 1 segment on the left of it. I thought it would be nice to have round corners, because there are so few round things in the game. But they could be 90 degree as well.

Now the diagonal ones:



4. Left outer corner orthogonal/diagonal
5. Left diagonal
6. Inner diagonal
7. Right diagonal
8. Right outer corner orthogonal/diagonal

The last piece, number 8, could as well be the same as number 4, that depends on the details.

More diagonal ones:



9. Left inner corner orthogonal/diagonal
10. Right inner corner orthogonal/diagonal
11. Some filler lots



This should be all. Only some variation lots could be made additionally, like a straight segment with stairs, or a wider straight segment with other props like the porkie kiosk.



What do you think? Did I miss one piece?

I really hope that some people will be able to make this new walls.


And here is one other thing, I made a texture sketch to show you how I imagine the wall to look like:



This is only a sketch. But do you like it?

[Cjah 15]

I really like the stone wall idea as i like this C.J.

The work your doing is truly great for common plaza wall everywhere...I feel the walls are a much needed touch to some of our cities...

 

I also like that stone texture!

[magpieshooter 1]

Date: 1/19/2006 11:24:00 AM Author: topcliff for both of you, the custom bridge is a new set of lots at NOB's site go there and you'll see it in other or automata. and to barnatom: you're playing this on a MAC?! wow! i tried this on my old mac desktop and everything crashed after 2 seconds after installing SC4! May Thy Talent Flicker Unto Others.

 

Yes I though it was that, I had already downloaded those bridges, I just havent used them. Also the vertical wall idea is fantastic, but there schould be a linking piece between sloped and vertical!

[choco1 4]

Woah, this CJ looks stunning! And the update on the previous page looks just beautiful! I love your style and design, its simply breathtaking and such a different style.

I also love your wall idea, I htink peg made curved seawalls very similar to your idea. Except they were brick. I would definately use them if they came out!

Expect me back real soon!

[utora 0]

Wow, what a spectacular cj! I love the classic look of the cities, and especially I adore your use of all kinds of walls. On the previous page there's a shot of a harboursite with stairways descending into the water: wonderful job! How did you get rid of the yellow lines on the latest NAM version? I also have the euro roadtextures installed, but I still see those awful yellow lines at intersections. Is there an additional file that can de downloaded?

Great wotk!

[Kwakelaar 92]

Great ideas Barnatom, but I am sorry to say I will have to pas on this one.

You have also managed to find some wonderful ways to combine the different types of water, surely something that will come in handy for more people than just me.

[pikatchoum 2]

Oh damn!!Sorry for the tripple post....I had an server error and i tried at less 10 times to post my coment.I didn't realised i posted it 3 times....Excuse me.

 

The work your doing looks really interesting.I'll follow it .

 

keep it up