Punk Rock

[The Terminator 0]

As many of you have been noticing, I have been becoming more Punk these days. I really, have been turned to Punk by many of my friends now i am in High School. Real Punk, though, nono of that Blink 182 crap.

Dont worry, i still LOVE metal though

 

 

Some of my Fav. Punk bands are:

 

Choking Victim

Leftover Crack

Operation Ivy

New York Dolls

The MC5

The Clash

Sex Pistols

Dead Kennedys

Useless(an Underground Unsigned band from Clementon,NJ)

Pre 1995 Green Day

Bad Religion

The Casualties

The Dammed

ect.

 

So do any of you like any Punk?

 

 

Man i sound like a poser,lol!

[GingerBlokey 30]

Can't somone just give TT a thread to spam about Punk Rock, New Jersey and Anti-Americanism in!

[Duke87 1,070]

Leftover Crack is cool.

I'm currently listening to Disturbed's new album (though that's not really punk....)

[The Terminator 0]

awww, here Gingerblokey, have a Dead Kennedys album tho chear you up

*hands GB the Dead Kennedys In God We Trust EP

 

 

though a general spam thread would be cool!

 

anyways back on topic...

 

Listen to some good stuff here:

 

www.myspace.com/victimchoking

 

www.myspace.com/useless

 

 

 

[vidioman 21]

Why is it that I dont think the smilie represents punk?

[Cjah 15]

Punk eh...?

Well I mostly like Hardcore,Heavy Metal(actaully almost any Metal),Rock/Classic Rock....

 

I have heard some punk songs....Maybe I'll dive deeper into the Punk culture....

[tungston 19]

@TT:  When you have time do a google for DeSade, give it a listen, then tell me what kind of music it is, OK?

My favorite drummer is Jason, with N-17

[xiziz 11]

It may not be Punk, but its godlike anyway ^^

 

I like of punkbands i can think of now:

The Clash

(the) International Noice Conspiracy

Ebba Gr

[louisville327 0]

Don't take this the wrong way, Terminator, but since you're 14 years-old and just getting into punk in 2005, you definitely qualify as a poser.

Not that getting into punk at any age is a bad thing.

I entered the Louisville hardcore scene in 1994 (when I was 15), back when amazing local bands like Endpoint, Falling Forward and Guilt were still around. Unfortunately I missed out on great national bands like Gorilla Biscuits, Judge, Turning Point, Chain Of Strength, DRI, Embrace, and Grey Matter, all of which had already broken up. Too bad.

Luckily I still got to see and enjoy Earth Crisis, Strife, (good) Integrity, (good) Avail, (good) Snapcase, By The Grace Of God and so many others.

I don't know where you live in New York, but if you're in a city like Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse or NYC, there's probably local hardcore/punk shows going on right under your nose. Those old bands you listed are a great starting point, but I'd seek out some local hardcore bands and really get into the punk scene.

That's just the two cents of a bitter old scenester. If you want some good music recommendations, PM me and I'll send some your way.

[villarule 2]

Pennywise rock

[____----____ 37]

Bad Religion-- ultimate best modern rock band ever

Descendents

Adolescents

old AFI (from Black sails and earlier)

old Anti Flag

OPIV

Refused-shape of punk to come is a tight album

    now the International Noise Conspiracy

No Use for a Name

Rich kids on...

Dillinger Escape Plan

Snapcase

even old Catch-22 Keasby Nights Anyone?

all Chicago punk Lawrence arms

88 fingers louie

old avenged sevenfold-man did they sell out

 

-goes to look at his old punk cd's-

 

ok more

i had ton of NOFX even though i don't really like them now

Bouncing Souls

Millencolin

Lagwagon

coalesce

 

YOU ALL ARE POSERS

 

that was so punk rock^

 

 

 

 

 

[The Terminator 0]

well actually there are alot of Underground New Jersey bands i like, since im so close to Jersey, and i listen to them on myspace anyways.

 

some good NJ bands:

...But Not Forgotten-

this is a cool hardcore band, they are from Jersey City, and have a Female singer(vanessa diaz). unlike some girl bands i have heard, ...BNF actually pulls it off, Vanessa Diaz is a really good singer, she doesent sound poppy, and she doesent scream innadable nonscense like Arch Enemy.

 

Loss Of Breath-

this is a real hardcore band, theya are from the Middelsex county area, they have a very New England style, but they really rock, there like a New Jersey version of Killswitch engage.

 

Useless-

from Clementon,NJ

think of Pre-1996 Green Day, Choking Victim and Iron Maiden all put in a blender, youd come out with Useless's sound.

 

 

and BTW i live 10 mins. north of Midtown in Westchester County, so i do go down to St. Marks place alot, wich is NYC's rock capitol(in my opinion). i am planning on going to see Leftover Crack next time they do a show. there currently doing stuff in Cali, theyll probably come back in january.

 

 

 

 

IM A POSER WHOOOOOOOOOOOoo

[guinea 29]

Date: 11/13/2005 6:08:48 PM Author: Duke87

Leftover Crack is cool.

I'm currently listening to Disturbed's new album (though that's not really punk....)

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I realy like disturbed's new album ,
leftover crack are good aswell... TT got me into them

orignal AFI
Bad religion
The Clash
Anti flag
Refused  - i realy like

dillenger escape plan


All are good... hehe , not meny people know about my love of good old punk. tehe... the emoness rules over all ! <3

[____----____ 37]

 

 

 

Date: 11/14/2005 3:18:11 PM Author: guinea hehe , not meny people know about my love of good old punk. tehe... the emoness rules over all ! &lt;3

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Emo people shall now forth be banned from this thread

[The Terminator 0]

JESUS!!!!! i was such a poser back in '05.

New York Dolls

The Casualties

Useless

Green Day

^all those bands suck. even old pre 1994 green day, they were still terrible!!!!!!! man have i matured

[pickled_pig 7]

Originally posted by: The Terminator JESUS!!!!! i was such a poser back in '05.

New York Dolls

The Casualties

Useless

Green Day

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Yep, you were.  Green Day were overrated back in the '90s, and it's just become worse post-American Idiot.

Wire and the Clash are the only punk bands that matter.

Purists call Wire post-punk, but the only real difference between punk and post-punk is that punk was a political movement and post-punk was a musical movement.  Wire didn't have any anarchistic political message; they just wanted to make good music.

Oh... and I believe it's spelled poseur.  Not poser.

[The Terminator 0]

i hat this weird dream i Met Billy Joe Armstrong, and he was all like "my band is the best ever". i was weird.

[Barbarossa 51]

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[gurrgkud 2]

if it's rock, and it's good, i'll listen to it.

i hate the rap/hip-hop culture, and country i dont like either. Some electronic music is ok, like Jungle and Trance.

Currently listening to: Cradle of Filth-"Heaven Torn Asunder"

Yes yes.. they "sold out"... but they still make good music and i still love them.

[The Terminator 0]

in my opinion, cradle of filh is a band i find abrasive and annoying, its like theyre trying to go out of there way to say "were goth, were vampires, we rock you suck" they reminds me of those goth kids on South Park. there like slipknot, all about image, not music.

i like bands like Old School and Progressive metal because most bands in those genres make music to make music.

thats also why i like Anarcho and Crust music, its outside the commericialized hypocracy of the mainstream.

[gurrgkud 2]

cradle is not goth, and they have never called themselves goth, and they will never be what real goth is. they are a mixture, but mostly black metal, and black metal bands often have the same image (black leather everything, tight, (most of the time with spikes in their legs and arms)).

i dont know, but i find their music creative (of course.. the older the CD is, the more i like it).

and no, they are not like slipknot. they are compleeeeeeeetely different.

just a question, why do you hate mainstream? i know a lot of bands start sucking when they enter mainstream, but there's a lot of good ones out there (i still think Mudvayne is awesome, better than their second album, and they are more mainstream than ever). I just want to know your reason, because i hate the "omg im so cool because i listen to bands that no one has heard of and i hate mainstream" kids. 

[Cjah 15]

Originally posted by: gurrgkud cradle is not goth, and they have never called themselves goth, and they will never be what real goth is. they are a mixture, but mostly black metal, and black metal bands often have the same image (black leather everything, tight, (most of the time with spikes in their legs and arms)).

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hmmm.....Black Metal.....always sounds so cartoonish to me.....few bands can pull it off....

I hate Cradle...even tho they look  goth....and seem vampire like...I have never ever called them goth....they are simply Black Melo Death.....

Now if you like Black Metal....i guess Noway is where it all began....but like i said...I really don't like Black Metal...

but for me...all my favorite bands that are Black Metal come from Finland.....

Kalmah and their brand of Black Metal...more often called "SwampMetal" is what i like....first they were Ancestor and played together for like 10 years....then they decided to take it to another level....they buried Ancestor and became Kalmah...they make an album atleast once a year it seems....

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=92038392

this myspace has all of their Swamplord songs....

"Swampsong" and the album that was before it "They will return" were very good albums...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=70136708

Now this is off the newest album "The Black Waltz"

http://www.myspace.com/kalmah0001

again....its not full on Black Metal,but its good compared to alot of Black metal/Melodic Death Metal...

hmmm....and....

Originally posted by: The Terminator

and she doesent scream innadable nonscense like Arch Enemy.

 

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Well....the old Arch enemy or Angela's Arch enemy both scream....check out that old song..."The Immortal" no screamin chick in that one....but then again I'm a big Arch Enemy fan..I like all of their albums pretty much....

[gurrgkud 2]

hmmm "swampmetal"... never heard of it.

i still dont think that CoF looks anything like Goth... i can see the "vampire" resemblence, but not Goth.

[DOXXP29 5]

Swampmetal is a new one to me. CoF isn't goth. Seen 'em, black metal, dark metal, dark-nu-metal, maybe (I'm running out of in vogue categorizations), but I didn't get goth from them live or on albums.

[Louisville90 0]

persenly i dont like any metal punk are whatever type music like that im all rap but thats my opion

[gurrgkud 2]

Originally posted by: DOXXP29 Swampmetal is a new one to me. CoF isn't goth. Seen 'em, black metal, dark metal, dark-nu-metal, maybe (I'm running out of in vogue categorizations), but I didn't get goth from them live or on albums.quote>

 

thank you  

for me Goth is Bauhaus, Siouxsie, London After Midnight (the music, not their image), The Cure, etc...

NOT Cradle of Filth, NOT Marilyn Manson (like every other 15 year old believes) and NOT Evanscence (once again, like every other 15 year old believes).

Originally posted by: Louisville90 persenly i dont like any metal punk are whatever type music like that im all rap but thats my opionquote>

 

you are in the wrong Forum.

[DOXXP29 5]

Absolutely, Grrgkud! Just because one dresses the part, that doesn't make it real. If Wayne Newton painted his face white, put on black lipstick and nail polish, dyed his hair black after growing it to his waist, and put a few coffins onstage, but did his usual repertoire, would his Saturday night show at the casino in Vegas be a GOTH performance? I think not! As the old saying goes, if you take a turd and cover it in chocolate, is it still a turd?

[Barbarossa 51]

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[DOXXP29 5]

Absolutely, Barbarossa! Couple that with the fact that many excellent bands never make the mainstream because of sleazy management. Managers and producers ripping the talent off using the money to line their pockets instead of promoting the band.

Also, punk and metal have never really made the mainstream because the "powers that be" don't really WANT the masses to hear the message. This is where mainstream gets "political" and why some bands and genres will just never be accepted. There's always gonna be an audience, but mainstream radio and record companies want people happily bopping along with Britany, not absorbing the lyrics of, say the Sex Pistols, Cradle of Filth or Gangsta Rap. That's one reason why these bands are often on "sub-labels" or independent labels. There's money there, that the labels are happy to take, but it's music that you're just not gonna hear on top 40 radio, no matter how many albums they sell. And if it DOES make it to the radio, it's edited and censored so badly, the whole context of the song is lost.

[Cjah 15]

Originally posted by: DOXXP29 And if it DOES make it to the radio, it's edited and censored so badly, the whole context of the song is lost.quote>

 

yep...isn't that a fact nowdays....

plus the thing you said about Political power and such....I remember when Bob Dole was running for Office and he kept bad mouthing Cannibal Corpse and such...why did he do it....because of the message of Cannibal Corpse(which is violent) or because it got him more airtime on TV....