Light rail modding help

[Synergy 0]

could someone make the Melbourne Trams, I'm from the world's most liveable city and I and several others (eg: the yeti 2001, tropod, deadwoods, etc) would love melbourne trams.

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I am from Melbourne too & would also love to see Melbournes trams in my game.

I hope its possible

[Daeley 46]

looking at my (very basic) testing, it seems that anything that has paths and RUL's willgo over that network... I seem to remember Tropod posting pictures of how he made monorail go over the network with an actual monorail on the ANT. This leads to my assumption that the traffic generated automata are most likely undependant of their network. I'd even go as far as saying that if anyone could create traffic without a network, you'd probably see cars there too. I noticed that transit enable tiles of lot do not seem to count as network pieces, which strenghtens this last statement.

 

so my suggestion would be as follows: we enable eltrains on the ANT network ant get a way to retexture it (if there's a way to make the trains go slower in corners, I don't even think we'd need to use the trainlike 45

[Tunafish 48]

Awsome. Texture Artists Here

[Dexter 40]

Here are some textures I have made. I will try it with other base textures, and then make the other textures.

 

Normal texture

 

Cross texture

[kassarc16 4]

Those look really nice... I think they'd work perfectly for the mod.

[the7trumpets 10]

Well, here's what we need to get started

 

 

Each red line indicates a set of tracks.

 

To start, we won't be able to have two sets of tracks entering or exiting the same side of the tile.  Some additions might be possible later with the use of overrides.  Basically, we need the first three tiles on the top row, and all the ways they can be placed on top of each other.  Even though it looks a bit different, the right side of the second and third tiles on the top row should be the same.  The middle tile (tile5) is the same as the bottom lef tile flipped and rotated (tile7), and tile 4 (left middle) is empty.

 

So here's an exaustive list of what we need:

 

Tile 1

Tile 2

Tile 3

Tile 7

Tile 8

 

Tile 1 + Tile 2

Tile 1 + Tile 7

Tile 1 + Tile 1 rotated 90 degrees (like a + )

 

 

There will be others later, but these will get us started.  Please make good textures, with alpha maps, FSH files compressed with DXT3 in Fishman, inserted into a DAT file, zipped, and posted here.  They should be 128x128, 64x64, 32x32, 16x16, and 8x8 in size, and have 3 wealth levels and undeveloped, if desired.

[smoncrie 43]

There are some textures in the game that might be usefull.  take a look at

0x08031500-0x08031504 in simcity_3.dat for tile 1

0x08001a00-0x08001a04 in simcity_3.dat for tile 3

 

smoncrie

[abcd 5]

I love this amazing work!

I really could need it for my L.A. region!

 

When could we expect the release?

[Larkyboof 0]

Date: 9/12/2004 4:20:44 AM
Author: abcd

I love this amazing work!

I really could need it for my L.A. region!

When could we expect the release?

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Patience abcd patience, it takes time to make these mods.

I'm no pro at textures but i'd like to try: how do you get the texture in to FSH format??

[the7trumpets 10]

WOW!  Not one, but 'two' texture artists?  Awesome!

 

To put things in FSH format, you'll need DarkMatter's program called FishMan, as well as datgen or the reader to extract or insert them into dat files.

 

Datgen wrote a tutorial which is in the tutorials section of the modding page on this site which is very good.  It's centered on adding base and overlay textures for lots, but the same principles apply for networks as the overlay (DXT3 compressed) textures, you just need different versions for different wealth levels and zooms.

 

smoncrie is right, the elrail textures would serve us well as an example.  Of course the look could/should be slightly different, but it's up to you guys!  The most important thing is that the track width is the same, and that they still look like they 'belong' with the stock simcity transit networks. Good luck!!!

[eangulus 3]

Any Progress on this project? If so when cna expect a beta release at the least?

[theyeti2001 0]

I'm wondering, should this project be moved to the new NAM - Development thread, especially as the ANT is being considered as the network of choice for this project. Maybe a post of all the requests posted here could be added to the NAM - Requests thread so that folks that are new here or have never read this thread don't start posting requests for trams and the work being done here will reach a wider audience.

 

Yeti.

 

PS. T7T: can the ANT make neighbour connections? 

[Tunafish 48]

Any progress, was it moved to NAM. this is bigger than anything we've accomplished. we must complete this.

[eangulus 3]

Is there any progress on this? Or is this now a DEAD project?

I too believe it would be better as a NAM setup...

[Daeley 46]

it is not DEAD... it is pending... we are currently waiting for some good textures

I do not have the skill (nor the time to get a good grip at it) to create some decent textures for this, so I'm just waiting for someone to give a good contribution...

[Chester 0]

any release date known yet, i dont mind if it is a beta or something

[Gizmos robot 0]

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[the7trumpets 10]

Date: 9/20/2004 10:12:43 PM
Author: Gizmos robot
were do you put the textures

BUNNY ATTACK

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Do you have textures to post???  yipeee!!! if that's the case

The best thing would be for you to convert them to FSH files with FishMan (DXT3 compressed, with alpha maps), and then insert them into a dat file.  The zip the dat file and post it here.


Seriously folks, we just need some simple textures shown above, and then I'll start cracking on the RULes to see how probable/plausable this is.  Textures anyone?

[Gizmos robot 0]

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[Craigsters 3]

I found these rail way train tracks click here to down load it!. Craig

[nonessentialnoodle 2]

wow this looks really good, im not sure whats happened but simtropolis seems to have 'died' over the last week, with no new lots etc! But still this looks amazing, i cant wait for it to be finished
I decided to add some pictures of the Wimledon/South London Metro system, i got a bit carried away though and think i might have added too many, theres more if you want them for some reason though.

This is the typical color scheme

This is coming out of the depot

Some of the street cars/trams are re painted with adverts! which looks kinda neat i think
I dont suppose theres any chance re painted trains will ever be available in sc4? like every now and then the station spawns a random different colored train.
And Finally here is a train at night:

Image removed. Images are to be 800x600 at the most thanks.

[Daeley 46]

well that nice and all but we need textures!

we can't continue the work without textures... Dexter  where are you? The first ones you made were pretty good... if only you could do a follow-up on them with the curves T7T requested... modeling requests should be aimed at Mike, he should be fairly good with it

[edcase2k4-thugangel1983 1]

more textures needed huh? shall i add to my mental to-do list not making no promises though

[Speedy 0]

Hey people, do some textures for det simtropolis community  I would do it myself but ain't much of that artist man tough...sorry

[mikeseith 457]

So sorry about my absence but a storm after hurricaine frances fried my DSL modem and with all the damage in the area, my service provider would not do anything for a week. Then they shipped me a new modem. Just got it yesterday and now I have to put up the shutters again and probably go to work tonight for the next hurricaine.

If this thing gives us a glancing blow like the last one, and my new modem dosen't get fried, and we aren't threatened by yet another hurricaine, I will try to do the needed textures. I will start this afternoon, then after the storm, I should have something next week sometime. I don't promise great looking textures but I know this thing needs to get a good push to get out of this rut we are in.

If you hear that hurricaine Jeane hit the Fort Lauderdale area, don't expect to hear from me for quite awhile. About one more month and hurricaine season is over, Thank goodness.

[admiralenciso 0]

https://www.simtropolis.com/lots/index.cfm?mode=files&filetype=Lot&Str=Ground%20Rail%202%20Elevated%20Rail%20Transition

if this work with udi, where is the problem to show up some el-trains on ground rail...........??

[Daeley 46]

there is a big difference between how UDI and the traffic engine work...

besides, we have our minds set at working this out with ANT

[mikeseith 457]

The7trumpets,
I have been working on making the textures you asked for, but I was having problems drawing them up the way you want them. Would it be possible to do the project using the maxis supplied rail combos? I have most of the rail combinations extracted and have been working on making them into a light rail type of track.


I'm finding that on the texture-making side this is the easier method. As you can see, some of the textures are done (at least 128x128 size). Tell me what you think before I really get involved with this.

[the7trumpets 10]

Unfortunately the ANT simply will NOT recognize rail type RUL codes in its RUL files, because the drawing engine is controled by the exe.

The result is that we are having to 'mimic' a rail type network with road type rules. That requires two things:

Tighter turns
Only one set of tracks exiting a single tile at a time.


So unfortunately, we need them like I posted above, the rail type pieces simply cannot be drawn correctly with the ANT network.

[mikeseith 457]

Ah well, I have some of the pieces there. Guess I'll have to find a way next week.

By the way, I still have power and the wind must be 70 MPH outside
I just hope the shingles stay put on the roof.