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This makes me really sad.  I had high hopes for this game.  After playing the demo and seeing whats going on now, it sucks.  D3 had a crappy launch too, but all Blizz games do, and I was able to play a bit the first night and the next day and didnt lose progress.  A couple of my friend have said that they are losing progress becasue their cities are being rolled back.  I hope Maxis sees this fuster cluck and releases a proper Simcity.

 

There are some very nice gameplay elements that I would love to see in a new game, but the size, lack of transit options, and lack of teraforming are going to keep me from purchasing this game, even when the servers stablize.

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When people start reviewing this game based on the actual gameplay I'll take it on board.  So long as people are rating it 1* because they couldnt log straight away/hate origin/hate EA etc I wont. 

 

Its interesting to see that on metacritic its rated at 82/100 by the critics (people who are taking an objective view) yet is given 2.0/10 by users, many of which havent actually played it. http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/simcity

 

Unfortunately its a sign of the times that popular online games all seem to struggle to some extent on launch until servers are optimized correctly.

 

I'll reserve my judgement once the hysteria is over and servers are sorted.

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You really think that the professional game 'journalists' are objective? 
 

Huh.

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You really think that the professional game 'journalists' are objective? 

 

Huh.

They are certainly not basing a review off 20 minutes or zero playtime as a lot of the users are...

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You really think that the professional game 'journalists' are objective? 

 

Huh.

They are certainly not basing a review off 20 minutes or zero playtime as a lot of the users are...

It's hard to get more objective than a negative review for a nonfunctional product.

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You really think that the professional game 'journalists' are objective? 

 

Huh.

They are certainly not basing a review off 20 minutes or zero playtime as a lot of the users are...

The more recent reviewers are giving the game an average of 60-70. The offical rating has dropped from 90 to 82, and it is going to keep dropping when more reviews are submitted. 

 

That is not normal for a big title game like Sim City. Its not just the server issues. 

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

ROFL LOL LMAO ETC.

 

There is one sour point, though. I feel as though many of the reviews are negative not due to the limiting factors of the game (such as small city tiles, mandatory gaps between tiles, no terraforming, etc. etc. etc.) but simply due to the online requirement. While I understand the online requirements are not desirable for many people, I feel as though this is not the fundamental wrong with this game. Online requirements I can live with. Crappy gameplay I cannot. The game would not suddenly be significantly better if we could play offline. Unfortunately, I have to partially agree with dysonraf. People who install SC2013, see servers are down or whatever and immediately go into rage mode and head straight for the review sites with a 1-star rating do not consitute my idea of accurate feedback.

 

By the way, OP, please add Metacritic user scores as well to your original post. Same pattern. 1160/1460 are negative, average user score 1.9/10.

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There is one sour point, though. I feel as though many of the reviews are negative not due to the limiting factors of the game (such as small city tiles, mandatory gaps between tiles, no terraforming, etc. etc. etc.) but simply due to the online requirement.

Of course. People didn't want the online requirement in the first place, and then they cant even get enough servers to make it work after 3 days. What were they thinking? Did they learn nothing from Diablo 3 failed launch. The worst thing you can do in a launch is to make it impossible to play.

 

And I see many reviews mentioning the other problems as well. 

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You really think that the professional game 'journalists' are objective? 

 

Huh.

They are certainly not basing a review off 20 minutes or zero playtime as a lot of the users are...

The more recent reviewers are giving the game an average of 60-70. The offical rating has dropped from 90 to 82, and it is going to keep dropping when more reviews are submitted. 

 

That is not normal for a big title game like Sim City. Its not just the server issues. 

Actually that's quite normal for most big games.

Many sites love to give controversial reviews to generate hits.

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The more recent reviewers are giving the game an average of 60-70. The offical rating has dropped from 90 to 82, and it is going to keep dropping when more reviews are submitted. 

 

 

That is not normal for a big title game like Sim City. Its not just the server issues. 

Actually that's quite normal for most big games.

Many sites love to give controversial reviews to generate hits.

What a load of bullcrap. 

 

Where are all the bad reviews for Guild Wars 2 to generate hits? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/guild-wars-2/critic-reviews

What about skyrim? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/critic-reviews

Or Total War Shogun 2: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/total-war-shogun-2

 

And Tom Raider just got released like Sim City. They got a userscore of 8.7. not 1.9.

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Or maybe it's a simple confirmation bias, where the people who review on day one about a game are those who like to complain, while the folks who actually like the game so far will wait until they've had a more complete experience before writing a review?  Nah, that can't be right...

YEt the people reviewing on day one are also most likely to actually be critical!

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The more recent reviewers are giving the game an average of 60-70. The offical rating has dropped from 90 to 82, and it is going to keep dropping when more reviews are submitted. 

 

 

That is not normal for a big title game like Sim City. Its not just the server issues. 

Actually that's quite normal for most big games.

Many sites love to give controversial reviews to generate hits.

What a load of bullcrap. 

 

Where are all the bad reviews for Guild Wars 2 to generate hits? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/guild-wars-2/critic-reviews

What about skyrim? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/critic-reviews

Or Total War Shogun 2: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/total-war-shogun-2

 

And Tom Raider just got released like Sim City. They got a userscore of 8.7. not 1.9.

Skyrim has plenty of bad reviews for the PS3 version.

Bethesda made people wait almost a decade for Skyrim, they also enticed reviewers with goodies as well.

The DLC was given lackluster reviews.

 

 

 

Halo 4 sat in the 90s for the first few weeks and now has dropped to 87?

Why? Because the main sites and gamers complained 343 "rehashed" the game and didn't bother to do anything fresh (which an over exaggeration)

 

Darksider II has dropped to 81 with a user score dropping to 7.8

 

Read the negative reviews of the yearly release of Call of Duty as many sites take pot shots at it.

 

Remember EA isn't the only one who "buys" reviews ;)

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Skyrim has plenty of bad reviews for the PS3 version.

 

 

 

 

What a load of bullcrap. 

 

 

Where are all the bad reviews for Guild Wars 2 to generate hits? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/guild-wars-2/critic-reviews

What about skyrim? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/critic-reviews

Or Total War Shogun 2: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/total-war-shogun-2

 

And Tom Raider just got released like Sim City. They got a userscore of 8.7. not 1.9.

 

Skyrim has plenty of bad reviews for the PS3 version.

Bethesda made people wait almost a decade for Skyrim, they also enticed reviewers with goodies as well.

The DLC was given lackluster reviews.

 

Halo 4 sat in the 90s for the first few weeks and now has dropped to 87?

Why? Because the main sites and gamers complained 343 "rehashed" the game and didn't bother to do anything fresh (which an over exaggeration)

 

Darksider II has dropped to 81 with a user score dropping to 7.8

 

Read the negative reviews of the yearly release of Call of Duty as many sites take pot shots at it.

 

Remember EA isn't the only one who "buys" reviews ;)

 

First off, the PS3 version for skyrim sucked. So of course they recieved bad reviews. But for the PC-version they didn't. And for the rest you didn't even bother to mention them, and starting mentioning other games like that is supposed to defend your argument.

 

Let me remind you, what is your argument. You made the complete ludicrous statement that "Actually that's quite normal for most big games. Many sites love to give controversial reviews to generate hits." 

 

So how come the big games I mentioned have not been given a lot of bad reviews to bring attention? 

 

Or did you just write a load of crap? So you can defend a bad game, that even you know is bad at the moment, because else you would play the game. Not sit on this forum. 

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Skyrim has plenty of bad reviews for the PS3 version.

 

 

 

 

What a load of bullcrap. 

 

 

Where are all the bad reviews for Guild Wars 2 to generate hits? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/guild-wars-2/critic-reviews

What about skyrim? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/critic-reviews

Or Total War Shogun 2: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/total-war-shogun-2

 

And Tom Raider just got released like Sim City. They got a userscore of 8.7. not 1.9.

 

Skyrim has plenty of bad reviews for the PS3 version.

Bethesda made people wait almost a decade for Skyrim, they also enticed reviewers with goodies as well.

The DLC was given lackluster reviews.

 

Halo 4 sat in the 90s for the first few weeks and now has dropped to 87?

Why? Because the main sites and gamers complained 343 "rehashed" the game and didn't bother to do anything fresh (which an over exaggeration)

 

Darksider II has dropped to 81 with a user score dropping to 7.8

 

Read the negative reviews of the yearly release of Call of Duty as many sites take pot shots at it.

 

Remember EA isn't the only one who "buys" reviews ;)

 

First off, the PS3 version for skyrim sucked. So of course they recieved bad reviews. But for the PC-version they didn't. And for the rest you didn't even bother to mention them, and starting mentioning other games like that is supposed to defend your argument.

 

Let me remind you, what is your argument. You made the complete ludicrous statement that "Actually that's quite normal for most big games. Many sites love to give controversial reviews to generate hits." 

 

So how come the big games I mentioned have not been given a lot of bad reviews to bring attention? 

 

Or did you just write a load of crap? So you can defend a bad game, that even you know is bad at the moment, because else you would play the game. Not sit on this forum. 

Obviously the companies bought the reviews just like EA has :kitty:

 

Why are you sitting on this forum trashing a game when you could be doing something more constructive?

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Please calm down. As I have said before, those that purchased SimCity 2013 on Amazon have valid opinions on Amazon. Completely anonymous users are less reliable. If you sort the reviews to only include certified purchase reviews that are helpful, you will still find a rather low score but it is actually higher than the total reviews including those that did not purchase. --Ocram


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Skyrim has plenty of bad reviews for the PS3 version.

 

 

 

 

What a load of bullcrap. 

 

 

Where are all the bad reviews for Guild Wars 2 to generate hits? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/guild-wars-2/critic-reviews

What about skyrim? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/critic-reviews

Or Total War Shogun 2: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/total-war-shogun-2

 

And Tom Raider just got released like Sim City. They got a userscore of 8.7. not 1.9.

 

Skyrim has plenty of bad reviews for the PS3 version.

Bethesda made people wait almost a decade for Skyrim, they also enticed reviewers with goodies as well.

The DLC was given lackluster reviews.

 

Halo 4 sat in the 90s for the first few weeks and now has dropped to 87?

Why? Because the main sites and gamers complained 343 "rehashed" the game and didn't bother to do anything fresh (which an over exaggeration)

 

Darksider II has dropped to 81 with a user score dropping to 7.8

 

Read the negative reviews of the yearly release of Call of Duty as many sites take pot shots at it.

 

Remember EA isn't the only one who "buys" reviews ;)

 

First off, the PS3 version for skyrim sucked. So of course they recieved bad reviews. But for the PC-version they didn't. And for the rest you didn't even bother to mention them, and starting mentioning other games like that is supposed to defend your argument.

 

Let me remind you, what is your argument. You made the complete ludicrous statement that "Actually that's quite normal for most big games. Many sites love to give controversial reviews to generate hits." 

 

So how come the big games I mentioned have not been given a lot of bad reviews to bring attention? 

 

Or did you just write a load of crap? So you can defend a bad game, that even you know is bad at the moment, because else you would play the game. Not sit on this forum. 

Obviously the companies bought the reviews just like EA has :kitty:

 

Why are you sitting on this forum trashing a game when you could be doing something more constructive?

Your posts are getting dumber. I didn't even mention buying of reviews. Why did you choose to make such a dumb post, instead of using logical arguments?

 

You are getting desperate, Why is it so important for you to defend EA at all costs?

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You really think that the professional game 'journalists' are objective? 

 

Huh.

They are certainly not basing a review off 20 minutes or zero playtime as a lot of the users are...

 

The fact is, people paid money for this game.  Another fact - many have not been able to play consistently, or at all. 

 

Fact,  this game has been advertised as online only for quite a while - EA should have been prepared.  They themselves were very adamant about online. 

 

Fact - they are telling people that if they dispute a refund, they will be banned. 

 

Fact - how can you tell people "how" to think, and "what" to think about a product they just purchased?  The majority of them are educated consumers who wanted to love this game, gave their own money over for it, and on top of it are told to just "wait" for it.

 

 

Skyrim has plenty of bad reviews for the PS3 version.

 

 

 

 

What a load of bullcrap. 

 

 

Where are all the bad reviews for Guild Wars 2 to generate hits? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/guild-wars-2/critic-reviews

What about skyrim? http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/critic-reviews

Or Total War Shogun 2: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/total-war-shogun-2

 

And Tom Raider just got released like Sim City. They got a userscore of 8.7. not 1.9.

 

Skyrim has plenty of bad reviews for the PS3 version.

Bethesda made people wait almost a decade for Skyrim, they also enticed reviewers with goodies as well.

The DLC was given lackluster reviews.

 

Halo 4 sat in the 90s for the first few weeks and now has dropped to 87?

Why? Because the main sites and gamers complained 343 "rehashed" the game and didn't bother to do anything fresh (which an over exaggeration)

 

Darksider II has dropped to 81 with a user score dropping to 7.8

 

Read the negative reviews of the yearly release of Call of Duty as many sites take pot shots at it.

 

Remember EA isn't the only one who "buys" reviews ;)

 

First off, the PS3 version for skyrim sucked. So of course they recieved bad reviews. But for the PC-version they didn't. And for the rest you didn't even bother to mention them, and starting mentioning other games like that is supposed to defend your argument.

 

Let me remind you, what is your argument. You made the complete ludicrous statement that "Actually that's quite normal for most big games. Many sites love to give controversial reviews to generate hits." 

 

So how come the big games I mentioned have not been given a lot of bad reviews to bring attention? 

 

Or did you just write a load of crap? So you can defend a bad game, that even you know is bad at the moment, because else you would play the game. Not sit on this forum. 

Obviously the companies bought the reviews just like EA has :kitty:

 

Why are you sitting on this forum trashing a game when you could be doing something more constructive?

Your posts are getting dumber. I didn't even mention buying of reviews. Why did you choose to make such a dumb post, instead of using logical arguments?

 

You are getting desperate, Why is it so important for you to defend EA at all costs?

 

i think it is becoming quite obvious why. 

 

when they can't even see it from the consumers' side - something is up. 

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  "I hope Maxis sees this fuster cluck and releases a proper Simcity."

 

 

I hope not, but leave the SC creating to folks that are more competent.

 

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@Camlon

 

All good reviews are always "bought"!

 

There is no logic to any of this.

 

This all subjective down to the color of the buildings.

 

Most people who review products on Amazon don't even use and buy the product.

This has been going on for over a decade.

 

All good reviews are all suspect of being done by fanboys.

All bad reviews are all suspect of being done by haters.

 

A true sequel to Simcity 4 would go down as Maxis being creatively bankrupt and rehashing Simcity 4.

Most of you would be on here claiming the user and gaming reviews are done to drive down the sales to damage Simcity or something to that effect.

 

There is no way to please the masses when it comes to gaming anymore.

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@Camlon

 

 

Most people who review products on Amazon don't even use and buy the product.

This has been going on for over a decade.

What are you talking about? Amazon clearly indicates which reviewers bought the item.

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Most people who review products on Amazon don't even use and buy the product.

This has been going on for over a decade.

What are you talking about? Amazon clearly indicates which reviewers bought the item.

Most of the people who review products don't buy the products.

 

You don't have to buy the products to review them.

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I think a lot of people have spent a long time looking for reasons to hate this game, and now they get to rate the game and give it 1s like they've been fantasizing about.

 

When everyone is done having their tantrum, the ratings will improve.

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I think a lot of people have spent a long time looking for reasons to hate this game, and now they get to rate the game and give it 1s like they've been fantasizing about.

 

When everyone is done having their tantrum, the ratings will improve.

 

It doesn't make sense - why would people "want" to downrate a product they wanted to buy?

 

By the way, it sounds like another "blame the consumer" argument - take their money, they have legitimate concerns and when they can't use a product they paid for - blame them on top of that. 

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Most people who review products on Amazon don't even use and buy the product.

This has been going on for over a decade.

What are you talking about? Amazon clearly indicates which reviewers bought the item.

Most of the people who review products don't buy the products.

 

You don't have to buy the products to review them.

And that is irrelevant because of what I said. Stating it again doesn't change anything.

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@Camlon

 

 

Most people who review products on Amazon don't even use and buy the product.

This has been going on for over a decade.

What are you talking about? Amazon clearly indicates which reviewers bought the item.

Most of the people who review products don't buy the products.

 

You don't have to buy the products to review them.

And that is irrelevant because of what I said. Stating it again doesn't change anything.

 

And I don't think that THAT many people can fake it. 

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I think a lot of people have spent a long time looking for reasons to hate this game, and now they get to rate the game and give it 1s like they've been fantasizing about.

 

When everyone is done having their tantrum, the ratings will improve.

Yeah, I have nothing better to do than spend all my time looking for reasons to hate something and then to pay money for it.

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@Camlon

 

 

Most people who review products on Amazon don't even use and buy the product.

This has been going on for over a decade.

What are you talking about? Amazon clearly indicates which reviewers bought the item.

Most of the people who review products don't buy the products.

 

You don't have to buy the products to review them.

You know this how? Sound slike a straw man arguement to me. Where is your proof.

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I think a lot of people have spent a long time looking for reasons to hate this game, and now they get to rate the game and give it 1s like they've been fantasizing about.

 

When everyone is done having their tantrum, the ratings will improve.

 

It doesn't make sense - why would people "want" to downrate a product they wanted to buy?

 

By the way, it sounds like another "blame the consumer" argument - take their money, they have legitimate concerns and when they can't use a product they paid for - blame them on top of that. 

 

What legitimate concerns?

 

The server issues will be fixed and everyone knows it (or should know it).  Anyone downrating based on the server problems are using it as an excuse, or if they're too blinded by their tantrums they're just giving it a reactionary negative vote.

 

What other legit concerns are there? 

 

Or, a better question, is what other legit concerns inspire 10 paragraph rants about why EA sucks and they ruined SimCity?

 

What other legit concerns are there that can bring the rating down to 1 star, instead of down to, say, 3 stars?

 

 

For me personally, I haven't bought it yet (I don't really have the money to anyway), and if I did have the money the main reason for buying it would be to understand the game better so that I'm better prepared when modding is possible.  Right now out of the box there are some deal breakers that prevent this from being the SimCity that I want it to be, but I still understand that this should be a 4 or 5 star game.


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All good reviews are always "bought"!

 

There is no logic to any of this.

 

This all subjective down to the color of the buildings.

 

Most people who review products on Amazon don't even use and buy the product.

This has been going on for over a decade.

 

All good reviews are all suspect of being done by fanboys.

All bad reviews are all suspect of being done by haters.

 

A true sequel to Simcity 4 would go down as Maxis being creatively bankrupt and rehashing Simcity 4.

Most of you would be on here claiming the user and gaming reviews are done to drive down the sales to damage Simcity or something to that effect.

 

There is no way to please the masses when it comes to gaming anymore.

 

Here is another fact, all good games recieve more than 1.9 in user score at metacritic. 

 

And Sims 3 pleased the masses

Skyrim pleased the masses

Guild Wars 2 pleased the masses

There is no way to please the masses anymore? Or are you just mad, because people didn't like a bad game?

 

Face the reality, the reason Sim City is receiving bad reviews is because it is a bad game.

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All good reviews are always "bought"!

 

There is no logic to any of this.

 

This all subjective down to the color of the buildings.

 

Most people who review products on Amazon don't even use and buy the product.

This has been going on for over a decade.

 

All good reviews are all suspect of being done by fanboys.

All bad reviews are all suspect of being done by haters.

 

A true sequel to Simcity 4 would go down as Maxis being creatively bankrupt and rehashing Simcity 4.

Most of you would be on here claiming the user and gaming reviews are done to drive down the sales to damage Simcity or something to that effect.

 

There is no way to please the masses when it comes to gaming anymore.

 

Emphasis mine.

 

These sweeping, unproven, and absurd generalizations undermine your arguments.  You can do better.

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