Ploping residentials with the extra cheat. How does it work?

[Drengs 18]

Hello there!

I was trying to plop some residental bulding with the PlopBuilding extra cheat, but it get abandoned all the time!

I read that you have to zone an area that it fits before plopping. For example, if it is a 2x2 buiding, zone a 2x2 area for residential, and plop it on this area. Well, that's what I did, and it still didn't work!

Am I doing something wrong? What can I do to have working plopable residentials?

Thanks in advance!

[SimCoug 5,973]

Plopping residential buildings will not work in the long term - the game has difficulty finding a path to jobs, I believe.

[Francis90b 748]

Wrong - it might work -if you make sure there has been some other residential building where you're going to plop the new one - and also, if you make sure there are enough jobs available for the new residents.

What doesn't work is that the building won't show any path going or coming from it, and you probably won't be able to place a My sim there.

Other than this, and the fact that it won't generate any traffic, it should work as a "spontaneous" residential would work - it will use your power, your water, your schools, etc, and count towards your pop count.

  Edited August 24, 2012 by Francis90b  

[SimCoug 5,973]

Lets just say it's not a long term option for a healthy, viable city. A few sprinkled here and there may work, but you will not be able to make an entire city work on plopped residential buildings.

  Edited August 24, 2012 by SimCoug  

[paeng 2,510]

Lets just say it's not a long term option for a healthy, viable city.

Yeah, you're right - not wrong. It may appear to 'work' for some time (providing you keep the environment at the utmost favorable conditions = static city)... but sooner or later that empire will crumble. For all intent and purpose - plopped RES does not work.

[Francis90b 748]

May I ask on which basis and for which reasons should "that empire crumble" someday?

[vortext 573]

Plopping residentials does work insofar it adds to the population count, provided it's plopped on top of an already existing structure. So there's little point in plopping to begin with. Moreover, plopped residential doesn't spawn commuters, nor does it provide demand for commercials and industrials. So in the end, the simulator gets skewed pretty serious and hence, the empire crumbles.

[paeng 2,510]

Yep, Vortext put it nicely in a nutshell :-)

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Here are some more explanations for this issue -

Ploppable Residentials, Functional or not?

Regarding ploppable residentials, please consider this:

The residential capacity reported is depending on desirability factors.

If desirability goes down, and the actual capacity drops below 50%, the building will dilapidate or become abandoned.

The biggest residential desirability factor is the employment. If people can't get employed they usually leave as soon as possible.

Desirability can be increased through other factors, e.g. education, health, land value, park effect, lack of crime, etc.

If you're able to compensate the negative effect of unemployment by these factors, you obviously are able to plop residentials.

Likewise, freight time is a desirability factor for industrials, but not as severe as the unemployment for residentials.

Thus, plopped industrials have a lot better chance of surviving.

For a plopped residential not to abandon right away, the desirability factors must be right when plopping.

That is the reason you have to plop them on top of an existing residential building with a good existing employment.

but...

First of all, even if the desirability is high, the chances are slim that you will get any occupancy in the residential building when you plop it.

Secondly, if you do manage to get an occupancy in it, the chances are still very slim that it would stay occupied for any longer period.

My experience is that it isn't worth the hassle to try to keep the desirability factors high enough for a building where unemployed people live.

Once you for some reason have managed to get a reduced desirability in the area (increased traffic, pollution, crime, etc.),

the building would become abandoned. And once it has abandoned it will never, ever become reoccupied.

Thus, knowing this, I have always said, and will always continue to say, that plopped residentials do not work.

Source: RippleJet@ - http://sc4devotion.c...35638#msg135638

[Francis90b 748]

Thanks for the link, Paeng - once i've known about residential situation (vortext), then i was interested to know about industry and commercial ploppables, and this fills the gap.

[NCGAIO 562]

If you do search on Devotion had found dozens of pages about proplabes RCI including with respect to CS CO I $ and also as a Functional Marcos.

[Drengs 18]

Thanks for the answers guys!

That's a bit frustrating though, cause it's very hard to get the right building to grow... Buldoze, and buldoze, and buldoze once again... Pfiu...